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habebe
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Thu Oct 08 15:53:02 2020
http://www...on-oct-15-will-be-virtual.html

So the commission insists on virtual debates, Trump calls it a waste of his time, refuses to go.
patom
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Thu Oct 08 16:19:41 2020
He is afraid of that 'circle fly' that landed on Pence.

During a traffic stop a police officer is swatting at a fly that is circling around his head, and blurts out what kind of damn fly is that anyhow. The traffic offender replies, "that's a circle fly". The officer replies that he's never heard of a "circle fly". The offender replies circle flies are usually found circling around a horses ass. Enraged, the police officer says, "are you calling me a horses ass?", to which the traffic offender replied, "no sir, but you can't fool a circle fly.
www.yeswecansong.com
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Thu Oct 08 16:43:16 2020
Trump bitches out.
Wrath of Orion
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Thu Oct 08 16:45:40 2020
It's like a train wreck in slow motion, lol.
tumbleweed
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Thu Oct 08 19:01:03 2020
there's limited audience already (who aren't allowed to cheer anyway) plus he calls into Fox all the time

so what is his issue with it?

most likely he knows first debate hurt him
jergul
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Thu Oct 08 19:42:54 2020
Most likely he is preparing for failure. CNN had an OP on it.

Trump is quite good at failing and blaming others/branding it an actual success (ie I won the election even though Biden is the president now).

The swampmonsters changing the debate format to save biden fits into the whole Unfair! narrative.
jergul
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Thu Oct 08 19:48:57 2020
lol, I checked the newsfeeds. What a circus (Trump's team pretending they are accepting an offer by biden to delay the debate a week. No such offer exists of course).
smart dude
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Thu Oct 08 19:57:54 2020
"Trump is quite good at failing and blaming others/branding it an actual success"

lol, no. He is not "good" at it. He just DOES it. He is actually terrible at it.
Im better then you
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Thu Oct 08 20:43:33 2020
LMAO Trump is down 15 points with less than a month to go. So he drops out of the only remaining event that can save his shitty campaign.
tumbleweed
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Thu Oct 08 21:04:53 2020
jergul probably right, just adding to his bucket of whiny complaints about how he was treated unfairly & that's why he lost
patom
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Thu Oct 08 22:55:51 2020
Trump would never submit to participating in a debate where he wouldn't be permitted to interrupt at will.
tumbleweed
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Fri Oct 09 05:06:48 2020
completely professional statement from diseased Trump's also diseased (& statistically likely criminal) campaign manager:
http://pbs...gAIUz9g?format=png&name=medium
Rugian
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Fri Oct 09 15:33:19 2020
Presidential debates commission proves that it, too, is in the tank for Joe Biden

By Post Editorial BoardOctober 8, 2020 | 7:58pm | Updated

Looks like the Commission on Presidential Debates has joined CNN et al. in the tank for Joe Biden: Its bid to dictate a new, virtual format for the next Biden-Trump faceoff was a blatant gift to a candidate who never wants to stray far from his basement.

This, when it had ample safe ways to put on an in-person, distanced event — as on Wednesday night, with the vice presidential candidates spaced 12 feet apart.

The commission didn’t even consult the campaigns before announcing early Thursday that the Oct. 15 town hall would go virtual, with Biden and President Trump “screening in” to chat with voters gathered in Miami.

Trump nixed it: “No, I’m not going to waste my time in a virtual debate,” he told Fox Business’ Maria Bartiromo in a nearly hourlong interview. “That’s not what debating is all about.”

He’s right: Americans should see candidates off the cuff, responding to difficult questions. Biden, after all, has plainly been reading scripts even at “live” remote events for weeks now. It’d be easy for his aides to slip him talking points outside the camera’s view — though he’d need to avoid reading things like “topline message,” as he did in answering one reporter’s foreign-policy question.

The CPD says it’s worried about safety, but Oct. 15 is (for Trump) well past the 10 days the CDC advises quarantining after COVID-19 symptoms appear. Alternately, the commission could’ve discussed Trump’s offer to move the final two debates back a week.

Instead, Biden gets yet another infomercial: ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos (a former Bill Clinton aide!) will moderate a town hall for Biden on Oct. 15, in Philadelphia, not virtually. Will the audience be stacked again?

Ridiculous.

http://nyp...its-in-the-tank-for-joe-biden/

Swamp creatures indeed.
Wrath of Orion
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Fri Oct 09 15:53:55 2020
Isn't Rugian one of the people that gets all butthurt when someone posts an article from a biased rag?
habebe
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Fri Oct 09 16:42:39 2020
You could do alot more bias than the NYP.Its not Fox or OAN.

The hill seems to be pretty balanced.
Wrath of Orion
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Fri Oct 09 16:44:29 2020
You could also do a lot less bias. My point about hypocrisy still stands.
patom
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Fri Oct 09 16:50:27 2020
I hope Joe shows up and uses his allotted time answering questions from the audience. If Trump wants to participate then that will be up to him. He's currently butt hurt that he won't be able to butt in on every other syllable that Biden utters.
patom
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Fri Oct 09 16:51:40 2020
I hope Joe shows up and uses his allotted time answering questions from the audience. If Trump wants to participate then that will be up to him. He's currently butt hurt that he won't be able to butt in on every other syllable that Biden utters.
Rugian
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Fri Oct 09 16:55:01 2020
If I wanted to mirror IBTY's use of Vox and Vice, I'd be posting Breitbart and Federalist articles, not the Post.
tumbleweed
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Fri Oct 09 19:42:04 2020
Trump called into 2 Fox shows yesterday & Rush today for lengthy batshit crazy nonsense ramblings (not sure even his diseased steroided face shown in any)... yet can't do a debate remotely
Rugian
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Fri Oct 09 19:45:27 2020
It's almost like an interview and a debate are two entirely different things!
Dakyron
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Fri Oct 09 19:46:34 2020
"I hope Joe shows up and uses his allotted time answering questions from the audience. If Trump wants to participate then that will be up to him. He's currently butt hurt that he won't be able to butt in on every other syllable that Biden utters. "

Tell Trump if he does not participate it will an hour and a half of Biden campaigning on live national TV. I'm sure he will agree to anything at that point.

Oh, and if his stupid mask denying family had followed protocol this would not be an issue.
tumbleweed
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Fri Oct 09 19:53:33 2020
"It's almost like an interview and a debate are two entirely different things! "

barely so (at least if following the rules)
tumbleweed
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Fri Oct 09 20:01:15 2020
apparently he was on Limbaugh over 2 hours (or maybe still going)... airing his grievances & spewing bullshit
tumbleweed
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Fri Oct 09 20:04:01 2020
ha... apparently it ended w/ music playing over Trump still talking :p (& same for Hannity last night)

having to force him off the phone, & not for the first time, seems fairly standard
tumbleweed
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Sat Oct 10 00:01:19 2020
a Lindsey Graham debate cancelled because he refuses to take a covid test

more exemplary leadership

"Instead of an hour-long debate, the two candidates will each participate in separate 30-minute interviews hosted by television station WSPA in Spartanburg."
Habebe
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Sat Oct 10 01:05:55 2020
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Tell Trump if he does not participate it will an hour and a half of Biden campaigning on live national TV. "


I dont know that, that would be a positive for Biden

"Oh, and if his stupid mask denying family had followed protocol this would not be an issue."

While masks are important to help curb the spread, they do not prorect the individual from getting it.

Also according to protocol*, Trump should not be contagious by the time od the debate.
obaminated
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Sat Oct 10 01:40:07 2020
Who the fuck thinks bidens people want him to be on national televison for 90 minutes? He would fall apart. The worst thing trump did during the last debate was cut biden off. He shouldve let the senile old man hang himself with his half baked ideas and blatant anti american rhetoric, like pence did with that smarmy black whore.
tumbleweed
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Sat Oct 10 01:53:53 2020
"Who the fuck thinks bidens people want him to be on national televison for 90 minutes?"


he immediately agreed to his own town hall...

also, fucking moron is arranging something to compete with it so apparently fucking moron doesn't want people seeing Biden on TV
Habebe
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Sat Oct 10 02:37:46 2020
Well, strategically its probably a good move for Trump IF he plays up his showmanship. He didn't do it well at the convention.
Rugian
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Sat Oct 10 02:44:37 2020
"he immediately agreed to his own town hall..."

You mean an event where so-called "undecideds" who are actually lifelong Democrats will lob softballs at him for 90 minutes?

You've become cynical enough to dissect every last one of Trump's moves. How can you pretend to be so naive now that we're discussing Biden's?
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