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habebe
rank Mon Nov 30 19:12:51 2020
Not alarming that there is fraud or even miscoints or anything. The defendants argument against having the machined inspected is what's alarming.

The defendants also argued that allowing experts working for plaintiffs to inspect the machines “would pose substantial security and proprietary/trade secret risks,” Batten’s order says.

http://www...chines-georgia-counties-441342

That sounds really fucking shady that they are not subject to regular inspection by multiple parties.

Trump is trying to sow doubt, but shennanigans like that only help his case.

Dakyron
rank Mon Nov 30 20:02:06 2020
Of course, in reality, the federal government oversees and ratifies any code used in these elections.

So... yeah... unless Trump is alleging that his own branch of government conspired to remove him from office, then its nonsense.

Daemon
rank Mon Nov 30 20:02:10 2020
Nothing new. Or do you considered such things a problem in 2016, too?

Dakyron
rank Mon Nov 30 20:02:31 2020
Also, the machines used go through a public test prior to the election. So again... nonsense.

habebe
rank Mon Nov 30 20:06:01 2020
If that's the case, then why argue that?

habebe
rank Mon Nov 30 20:08:16 2020
You seem to.be under the perception that I think Trumpa claims are credible and massive voter fraud caused Biden to win. I thought I made that clear.

My point is that for ALL elections these machines should be subject to regular and random tests and inspections.

Dakyron
rank Mon Nov 30 21:21:50 2020
"My point is that for ALL elections these machines should be subject to regular and random tests and inspections. "

They are. You just are only allowed to test, not inspect the code, etc... That is only done by the federal government.

patom
rank Mon Nov 30 23:22:36 2020
In the case of Georgia, how many tests and cross tests would ever satisfy Trump? They had an election and the paper ballots were counted by a machine.
They had a manual recount which gave them the same results.
Which Trump owned laboratory would you like the machines and ballots to be turned over to?

habebe
rank Mon Nov 30 23:45:48 2020
PAtom, Its not about satisfying Trump.

Its about transparency in elections in general. If these machines dont allow that, we shouldn't use them, ever.

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habebe rank	Mon Nov 30 19:12:51 2020 Not alarming that there is fraud or even miscoints or anything. The defendants argument against having the machined inspected is what's alarming. The defendants also argued that allowing experts working for plaintiffs to inspect the machines “would pose substantial security and proprietary/trade secret risks,” Batten’s order says. http://www...chines-georgia-counties-441342 That sounds really fucking shady that they are not subject to regular inspection by multiple parties. Trump is trying to sow doubt, but shennanigans like that only help his case.
Dakyron rank	Mon Nov 30 20:02:06 2020 Of course, in reality, the federal government oversees and ratifies any code used in these elections. So... yeah... unless Trump is alleging that his own branch of government conspired to remove him from office, then its nonsense.
Daemon rank	Mon Nov 30 20:02:10 2020 Nothing new. Or do you considered such things a problem in 2016, too?
Dakyron rank	Mon Nov 30 20:02:31 2020 Also, the machines used go through a public test prior to the election. So again... nonsense.
habebe rank	Mon Nov 30 20:06:01 2020 If that's the case, then why argue that?
habebe rank	Mon Nov 30 20:08:16 2020 You seem to.be under the perception that I think Trumpa claims are credible and massive voter fraud caused Biden to win. I thought I made that clear. My point is that for ALL elections these machines should be subject to regular and random tests and inspections.
Dakyron rank	Mon Nov 30 21:21:50 2020 "My point is that for ALL elections these machines should be subject to regular and random tests and inspections. " They are. You just are only allowed to test, not inspect the code, etc... That is only done by the federal government.
patom rank	Mon Nov 30 23:22:36 2020 In the case of Georgia, how many tests and cross tests would ever satisfy Trump? They had an election and the paper ballots were counted by a machine. They had a manual recount which gave them the same results. Which Trump owned laboratory would you like the machines and ballots to be turned over to?
habebe rank	Mon Nov 30 23:45:48 2020 PAtom, Its not about satisfying Trump. Its about transparency in elections in general. If these machines dont allow that, we shouldn't use them, ever.
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