Utopia Talk / Politics / Vaccines IX: Amuricah?

Rugian rank	Wed May 05 20:28:14 2021 May 5: % of US that has received at least 1 dose: 44.7% (+0.2%) % of US fully vaccinated: 32.3% (+0.3%) Not great, not terrible.
Sam Adams rank	Wed May 05 22:41:31 2021 Antivaxxers suck. Still not gonna be enough of those retards to make jergul right.
jergul rank	Thu May 06 01:55:36 2021 Jergul: 50% after January 1st 2022 Ruggy: 50% before January 1st 2022 Sammy: 50% before June 1st 2021 Fowyn: 50% before November 1st 2021 Habebe: 50% before July 1st 2021 State Department: 50% by May 19th 2021 Obam: 50% before May 15th 2021
Habebe rank	Thu May 06 02:30:16 2021 Canada also has said Pfizer is good for 12 year olds and others.
jergul rank	Thu May 06 03:26:07 2021 habebe Its a very high bar. Covid "is good for 12 year olds and others" in the same way Pfizer is. To use your extremely imprecise wording. No vaccine is "good for you" beyond what protection it might provide. There are always risks involved. Both are unlikely to harm that particular group given the limited data we have. Note that this is uncertain enough that Pfizer does not have liability, nor will it have liability for as long as the drugs are being given on emergency use authorization.
Habebe rank	Thu May 06 03:35:53 2021 12 years and older* In other words its authorized for anyone older than 12. Canada Approves Use Of Pfizer Covid Vaccine In 12- To 15-Year-Olds http://www...cine-in-12to-15-year-olds/amp/
jergul rank	Thu May 06 08:42:43 2021 In other words, EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATION. Interim rules as they call it in Canada. Does it not worry you at all that you cannot sue the producer in theory at least? Suing is what passes for socialized medicine in your country. Here we have other means to recoup financial loss if something goes wrong. Emergency use authorization is actually rather a dangerous choice for you to make personally. Those class action suits are almost as good as stimmy checks.
Habebe rank	Thu May 06 09:19:37 2021 First off, Im not Canadian. 2ndly ypur hardly in a position to knock the US HC system ATM, as horrible as it is it kept us oit of recession unlike Europe.
jergul rank	Thu May 06 12:13:51 2021 Habebe Government spending got you out of the recession.
Rugian rank	Thu May 06 12:40:34 2021 More like government interference got us into a recession.
Sam Adams rank	Thu May 06 18:37:26 2021 Lol jergul is still butthurt.
jergul rank	Thu May 06 18:51:32 2021 Stop projecting Sammy. You have done nothing but whine about vaccine hesitancy.
Sam Adams rank	Thu May 06 19:00:57 2021 Everyone i know is fully vaxed at this point except a pregnant lady. Can you say the same in norway? Lulz.
jergul rank	Thu May 06 19:10:56 2021 Still 0 local infections here Sammy. Our town has beaten covid 5 times now (erradicated local infections 5 times).
Sam Adams rank	Thu May 06 20:45:55 2021 I dont care how many infections there might be in my town. Because i am vaccinated. Its probably 0 though, because lots of people are vaccinated. All with the best vaxes too. America rocks on the vax front.
Rugian rank	Fri May 07 01:34:38 2021 OH YEAH! May 6: % of US that has received at least 1 dose: 45.0% (+0.3%) % of US fully vaccinated: 32.8% (+0.5%)
Rugian rank	Fri May 07 23:36:28 2021 May 7: % of US that has received at least 1 dose: 45.3% (+0.3%) % of US fully vaccinated: 33.4% (+0.6%)
Sam Adams rank	Sat May 08 01:52:18 2021 Late week reports are so much bigger than early week reports. Must be russian colusion! ‐msdnc.
Rugian rank	Sat May 08 20:09:21 2021 The fact that leftist media is refusing to acknowledge the Biden administration's fuckups with J&J and mask guidance is pathetic. They absolutely would rather go with a "much Russia" angle than dare criticize Uncle Joe. --- May 8: % of US that has received at least 1 dose: 45.6% (+0.3%) % of US fully vaccinated: 33.9% (+0.5%)
Sam Adams rank	Sun May 09 22:42:36 2021 EU extends massive contract for pfizer vax, as it proves to be superior in every way. Up to 1.8 billion doses. Remember when i told you euros that the vaccine that saves you would be american? Rofl.
Rugian rank	Mon May 10 20:02:34 2021 I think I'm starting to understand why Europeans aren't big of nationalism. Their countries offer them very little to actually be proud of lol.
Rugian rank	Mon May 10 20:04:28 2021 May 9: % of US that has received at least 1 dose: 45.8% (+0.2%) % of US fully vaccinated: 34.4% (+0.5%) --- And May 10: % of US that has received at least 1 dose: 46.0 (+0.2%) % of US fully vaccinated: 34.8% (+0.4%)
Daemon rank	Mon May 10 20:45:13 2021 http://inv...ter-2021-financial-results-and BioNTech Announces First Quarter 2021 Financial Results and Corporate Update ... Net Profit / (Loss): Net profit was €1,128.1 million for the three months ended March 31, 2021, compared to €53.4 million net loss for the three months ended March 31, 2020.
Rugian rank	Tue May 11 04:12:01 2021 Boom. It's over. "FDA authorizes Pfizer vaccine for kids 12 to 15" http://www...pfizer-teens-authorized-486677
Rugian rank	Tue May 11 23:04:39 2021 May 11: % of US that has received at least 1 dose: 46.2 (+0.2%) % of US fully vaccinated: 35.1% (+0.3%)
Rugian rank	Wed May 12 21:30:35 2021 May 12: % of US that has received at least 1 dose: 46.4% (+0.2%) % of US fully vaccinated: 35.4% (+0.3%)
Daemon rank	Thu May 13 23:33:17 2021 http://www...d-19-booster-shots-2021-05-13/ COVID-19 vaccine developers are making ever bolder assertions that the world will need yearly booster shots, or new vaccines to tackle concerning coronavirus variants, but some scientists question when, or whether, such shots will be needed. In interviews with Reuters, more than a dozen influential infectious disease and vaccine development experts said there is growing evidence that a first round of global vaccinations may offer enduring protection against the coronavirus and its most worrisome variants discovered to date. Some of these scientists expressed concern that public expectations around COVID-19 boosters are being set by pharmaceutical executives rather than health specialists, although many agreed that preparing for such a need as a precaution was prudent. (...)
Rugian rank	Fri May 14 10:37:38 2021 May 13: % of US that has received at least 1 dose: 46.6% (+0.2%) % of US fully vaccinated: 35.8% (+0.4%)
patom rank	Fri May 14 16:16:22 2021 Isn't it cute the way many anti-vaxxers claim they won't get vaccinated because they don't know what is in the vaccines? At the same time gulping huge quantities of sausage and bologna.
Rugian rank	Fri May 14 16:39:05 2021 Sausage and bologna don't cause autism.
Habebe rank	Fri May 14 16:44:25 2021 http://youtu.be/MxJDobrrOYA Hahaha
Rugian rank	Sat May 15 03:04:38 2021 lol, patom and other old timers took Aids to lose weight.
Rugian rank	Sat May 15 03:05:25 2021 May 14: % of US that has received at least 1 dose: 46.8% (+0.2%) % of US fully vaccinated: 36.2% (+0.4%)
habebe rank	Sat May 15 04:34:45 2021 Why take diet pills when you can enjoy Ayds?
jergul rank	Sat May 15 16:03:48 2021 Jergul: 50% after January 1st 2022 Ruggy: 50% before January 1st 2022 Sammy: 50% before June 1st 2021 Fowyn: 50% before November 1st 2021 Habebe: 50% before July 1st 2021 State Department: 50% by May 19th 2021 Obam: 50% before May 15th 2021 - off by 13.8%.
Rugian rank	Sat May 15 21:51:31 2021 We're getting there jergul, don't you worry. ---- May 15: % of US that has received at least 1 dose: 47.1% (+0.3%) % of US fully vaccinated: 36.7% (+0.5%)
Nimatzo rank	Sat May 15 23:47:12 2021 We should nationalize AstraZenca and publically flog the members of their board. Then build a prison labor camp on the moon and send them there. We build it especially for them, we send no one else there and once they are dead, we dismantle it and erase all trace of it. And then.. ok I am getting a little carried away by rage. But we should at least write a strongly worded tweet.
Nimatzo rank	Sat May 15 23:54:07 2021 Dear AstraZeneca #disappointed #whereismyvaccine >:( [yoda_disapointed.gif]
habebe rank	Sun May 16 00:00:21 2021 At 13.3% away and about 40 days to go, If say my analysis seems to still hold up with current info. As long as we can keep up say .35% and Im Golden, t the very least damn close.
Nimatzo rank	Sun May 16 00:16:06 2021 ”my analysis” Those are pretty big words for dividing one number with another :P
habebe rank	Sun May 16 04:05:37 2021 A few threwfs ago when I came up with that date I actually put a lot more effort into it, this was just a progress report.
tumbleweed rank	Mon May 17 08:33:03 2021 a graph of unsurprising data: http://pbs...0AAo-Mp?format=jpg&name=medium
Habebe rank	Mon May 17 08:35:50 2021 So in general the blacker the state the fewer vaxed?
tumbleweed rank	Mon May 17 08:47:05 2021 DC is doing fine i'd say Fox News & Trump exposure is the main factor
Habebe rank	Mon May 17 08:59:37 2021 DC is 46% black, but only 31% of the Vaccinnes distributed went to the black population. Well below their weight. Rural people (More likely Trumpers) also have lower vax rates generally* But it always seemed disengenous when the news will talk the Trumpers holding us back by pointing out Midsissippi and Georgia etc. Are having low rates, and concluding it must.be just the Trumpers, when these are also the blackest states. While separately bring up "the HC divide" and blacks being reasonably hesitant. God forbid anyone speak anything negative about the rainbow people.
Rugian rank	Mon May 17 12:48:15 2021 May 16: % of US that has received at least 1 dose: 47.4% (+0.3%) % of US fully vaccinated: 37.1% (+0.4%)
Sam Adams rank	Mon May 17 17:17:37 2021 Ya, black and hispanic and redneck populations all correspond with lower vax rates. Asians and whites and liberals with higher. Oh and europeans with lower. Lol jergulseb.
Rugian rank	Mon May 17 21:03:24 2021 Uh... May 17: % of US that has received at least 1 dose: 47.3% (-0.1%) % of US fully vaccinated: 37.0% (-0.1%) ---- Don't ask me to explain that.
nhill rank	Mon May 17 21:05:19 2021 Are the vaxxed people dying off?
Rugian rank	Mon May 17 21:08:16 2021 Either that, or a huge amount of people had unprotected sex on August 17 2020.
TheChildren rank	Mon May 17 21:14:30 2021 easy. lie, cheat and steal xplained :-)
nhill rank	Mon May 17 21:17:46 2021 > Either that, or a huge amount of people had unprotected sex on August 17 2020. Count me in that club! Already have 5 kids tho so we didn't affect the statistics. Tied them tubes already. 5 is enough, although we may adopt 2 more.
Sam Adams rank	Mon May 17 21:55:59 2021 Texas records 0 covid deaths. Herd immunity? Or just herd immunity during the good weather season?
Sam Adams rank	Mon May 17 22:00:44 2021 "Don't ask me to explain that." Could be they updated US population numbers. Could be they removed vaccines that had previously been listed as given out but were in fact wasted. Could be jergul was their math teacher. Or maybe it was russian hackers -msdnc
nhill rank	Mon May 17 22:22:53 2021 > Texas records 0 covid deaths. Herd immunity? Or just herd immunity during the good weather season? Source? Usually the numbers lag a couple days.
habebe rank	Tue May 18 05:33:27 2021 http://abc...-many-people-have-in/10650095/ I googled it and found several articles claiming zero covid deaths reported.for.the first time since March.
Sam Adams rank	Tue May 18 06:19:17 2021 Since march of last year.
jergul rank	Tue May 18 07:02:31 2021 Reports trickle in from verious sources. Sometimes they stack oddly. For example if there are data issues.
jergul rank	Tue May 18 07:03:11 2021 Boy you people are stupid.
Forwyn rank	Tue May 18 07:22:20 2021 "Could be jergul was their math teacher."
Forwyn rank	Tue May 18 07:22:24 2021 rofl
Rugian rank	Tue May 18 21:37:44 2021 Lol indeed. Those poor, poor students.
Rugian rank	Tue May 18 21:39:59 2021 I'm pretty sure something just got screwed up yesterday, today's results look like it could be 2 days' worth of updates: --- May 18: % of US that has received at least 1 dose: 47.7% (+0.4%) % of US fully vaccinated: 37.5% (+0.5%)
Sam Adams rank	Tue May 18 23:19:20 2021 The bell tolls for jergul
Forwyn rank	Wed May 19 00:55:26 2021 While Obam and SD were a bit too aggressive in their calls, Habebe stands a good chance of pulling off The Price is Right and the jergul is wrong
jergul rank	Wed May 19 08:26:08 2021 Forwyn We will see what percentage everyone is off by the end. Your percentage will be very close to mine btw. And Ruggy's will be almost exactly mine.
jergul rank	Wed May 19 08:28:10 2021 "Price is right" Lol, you are such a fucktwad.
Habebe rank	Wed May 19 08:46:48 2021 My only complaint to Bidens admin. Handling of vaccinne is the lack of a push towards rural, lack and females citizens to get the vaccinne. Many states have been coming up with novel ideas. Harris in particular has been a roadblock for some of these groups being an antivaxxer herself only begrudgingly accepting vaccinne as good.
Habebe rank	Wed May 19 08:51:08 2021 I won't count my chickens bedore they have hatched, but aside from a major unforseen even my estimate of July 1st seems the closest even if not exactly accurate. But very clearly plausible.
jergul rank	Wed May 19 08:58:13 2021 habebe You will almost certainly be closest.
Daemon rank	Wed May 19 09:03:09 2021 Just got my first shot. Sitting now in a waiting area for 30 minutes to see if I collapse. If this is my last message in this forum then you knofsergjjngdfgujjhgregh gty gth. Yugvb. Hyt
Sam Adams rank	Wed May 19 17:48:54 2021 jergul large member Wed May 19 01:58:13 habebe You will almost certainly be closest. Jergul finally admits he was wrong?
Habebe rank	Wed May 19 17:56:34 2021 Sam, Yes, but he will blame it on kids getting vaccinated.
Rugian rank	Wed May 19 17:58:01 2021 Jergul first asked everyone to provide their date guesses and only then made up the rules of the game afterwards. Screw that. If we're making up the rules as we go along, then I say Price Is Right rules apply. (Either way though, jergul loses. Lol)
Habebe rank	Wed May 19 17:59:35 2021 "knofsergjjngdfgujjhgregh gty gth. Yugvb. Hyt" His German is impeccable.
Rugian rank	Thu May 20 01:14:23 2021 May 19: % of US that has received at least 1 dose: 47.9% (+0.2%) % of US fully vaccinated: 37.8% (+0.3%) ---- 12-17 year olds make up 6.6% of the population and only 17% have gotten at least one shot so far. That cohort should have a healthy effect on the vaccination numbers, though not an overwhelming one.
Rugian rank	Thu May 20 01:18:24 2021 The marked slowdown in the growth of "fully vaccinated" people is a point of concern - logically that number should still be growing at a relatively high rate as more people get their second shot. The fact that it's not growing quickly suggests that more people are skipping out on the second shot than I would have guessed.
Rugian rank	Thu May 20 01:18:59 2021 And if that is the case...what a bunch of fucking idiots.
Sam Adams rank	Thu May 20 01:43:22 2021 Many people who have had a significant bout of natural covid are being advised by their doctors to only get 1 shot of moderna or pfizer, assuming that their natural defenses acts much like a first shot. Those should probably be counted as fully vaxed, though only represents some 3-5% of the population.
jergul rank	Thu May 20 02:43:26 2021 Jergul: 50% after January 1st 2022 Ruggy: 50% before January 1st 2022 Sammy: 50% before June 1st 2021 Fowyn: 50% before November 1st 2021 Habebe: 50% before July 1st 2021 State Department: 50% by May 19th 2021 - off 12.2% Obam: 50% before May 15th 2021 - off 13.8%
Rugian rank	Thu May 20 21:40:23 2021 May 20: % of US that has received at least 1 dose: 48.2% (+0.3%) % of US fully vaccinated: 38.1% (+0.3%)
habebe rank	Thu May 20 22:43:27 2021 41 days to get 11.9% So I need to keep that .3% fairly steady.
nhill rank	Thu May 20 23:37:24 2021 > I googled it and found several articles claiming zero covid deaths reported.for.the first time since March. The Texas dashboard says 2 deaths now, so that was all a PR stunt
nhill rank	Thu May 20 23:38:25 2021 Not to mention the numbers lag weeks behind anyways, so the whole thing was dumb.
State Department rank	Fri May 21 07:18:20 2021 Fuck.
Habebe rank	Fri May 21 12:03:58 2021 Nhill, Sounds about right. I literally just googled "TX covid deaths" ans clicked "news" Our world in data is the normal standard we use. Even still though 2 is pretty good.
Rugian rank	Sat May 22 13:17:01 2021 May 21: % of US that has received at least 1 dose: 48.6% (+0.4%) % of US fully vaccinated: 38.5% (+0.4%)
CrownRoyal rank	Sat May 22 20:26:19 2021 Canada hit 50% today, with at least one shot
Habebe rank	Sat May 22 20:28:46 2021 CR, Astrazenica? Or good doses?
nhill rank	Sat May 22 20:30:52 2021 Habebe Agreed
jergul rank	Sat May 22 23:01:34 2021 habebe Does it matter that maybe 1 in 100k gets blood clots? If marginal mortality issues like that bother you, then you should get the fuck out of SC.
habebe rank	Sun May 23 02:01:13 2021 Not concerned about the rare blood clots. I thought it was less effective particularly with some of the variants. Could be wrong though.
Sam Adams rank	Sun May 23 05:44:20 2021 Ya, AZ doesnt work on the south african strain.
Rugian rank	Sun May 23 12:09:45 2021 May 22: % of US that has received at least 1 dose: 48.9% (+0.3%) % of US fully vaccinated: 38.9% (+0.4%)
Rugian rank	Mon May 24 00:21:24 2021 May 23: % of US that has received at least 1 dose: 49.2% (+0.3%) % of US fully vaccinated: 39.2% (+0.3%)
Habebe rank	Mon May 24 02:15:49 2021 I'm not really invested in this anymore. Ive already taken as much amusement as possible from Jergul being way wrong...meh...loss of interest.
Sam Adams rank	Mon May 24 05:56:16 2021 Ya, at this point its like the pats up 45-3 over the bengals with 8 mins left. Its a foregone conclusion at this point. RIP jergul.
habebe rank	Mon May 24 14:59:04 2021 That said I have to hand it to Rugian to keep it updated regularly.
jergul rank	Mon May 24 15:22:37 2021 Sammy RIP Sammy on June first. Or did you miss that? habebe I would have added 7 points to my forcast if I had realized the CDC would go crazy with its emergency use authorization to children. My actual goalpost is 57% with that factored in.
habebe rank	Mon May 24 15:55:07 2021 Why 7%? I went with what I thought was a conservative number, taking into account slowdowns and fuck ups.
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