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murder
Member Fri Dec 27 18:06:58
President-elect Donald Trump asked the Supreme Court on Friday to pause the potential TikTok ban from going into effect until his administration can pursue a “political resolution” to the issue.

The request came as TikTok and the Biden administration filed opposing briefs to the court, in which the company argued the court should strike down a law that could ban the platform by Jan. 19 while the government emphasized its position that the statute is needed to eliminate a national security risk.

“President Trump takes no position on the underlying merits of this dispute. Instead, he respectfully requests that the Court consider staying the Act’s deadline for divestment of January 19, 2025, while it considers the merits of this case,” said Trump’s amicus brief, which supported neither party in the case and was written by D. John Sauer, Trump’s choice for solicitor general.

The argument submitted to the court is the latest example of Trump inserting himself in national issues before he takes office. The Republican president-elect has already begun negotiating with other countries over his plans to impose tariffs, and he intervened earlier this month in a plan to fund the federal government, calling for a bipartisan plan to be rejected and sending Republicans back to the negotiating table.

He has been holding meetings with foreign leaders and business officials at his Mar-a-Lago club in Florida while he assembles his administration, including a meeting last week with TikTok CEO Shou Chew.

Trump has reversed his position on the popular app, having tried to ban it during his first term in office over national security concerns. He joined the TikTok during his 2024 presidential campaign and his team used it to connect with younger voters, especially male voters, by pushing content that was often macho and aimed at going viral.

He said earlier this year that he still believed there were national security risks with TikTok, but that he opposed banning it.

The filings Friday come ahead of oral arguments scheduled for Jan. 10 on whether the law, which requires TikTok to divest from its China-based parent company or face a ban, unlawfully restricts speech in violation of the First Amendment. The law was was signed by President Joe Biden in April after it passed Congress with broad bipartisan support. TikTok and ByteDance filed a legal challenge afterwards.

Earlier this month, a panel of three federal judges on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit unanimously upheld the statute, leading TikTok to appeal the case to the Supreme Court.

The brief from Trump said he opposes banning TikTok at this junction and “seeks the ability to resolve the issues at hand through political means once he takes office.”

In their brief to the Supreme Court on Friday, attorneys for TikTok and its parent company ByteDance argued the federal appeals court erred in its ruling and based its decision on “alleged ‘risks’ that China could exercise control” over TikTok’s U.S. platform by pressuring its foreign affiliates.

The Biden administration has argued in court that TikTok poses a national security risk due to its connections to China. Officials say Chinese authorities can compel ByteDance to hand over information on TikTok’s U.S. patrons or use the platform to spread or suppress information.

But the government “concedes that it has no evidence China has ever attempted to do so,” TikTok’s legal filing said, adding that the U.S. fears are predicated on future risks.

In its filing Friday, the Biden administration said because TikTok “is integrated with ByteDance and relies on its propriety engine developed and maintained in China,” its corporate structure carries with it risk.

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tumbleweed
the wanderer Fri Dec 27 19:02:03
Trump likes TikTok as he got lots of views

having him make decisions on any topic whatsoever is insane... yet R's elected him

Rugian
Member Fri Dec 27 19:15:39
The American people elected him.

murder
Member Fri Dec 27 19:20:22

He's not president ... or anything.

tumbleweed
the wanderer Fri Dec 27 21:19:32
49% of voters elected him... though the main problem was the total fucking idiot R primary voters

Rugian
Member Fri Dec 27 22:12:45
* 50%

And Biden got 51% in 2021...is it fair to say the American people didn't elect him then either?

tumbleweed
the wanderer Sat Dec 28 00:08:31
51% of voters elected Biden

the point is the Trump voters are fucking idiots (particularly in the primary)... why would i include all Americans

Trump bases so many decisions purely on personal interest or false information (which he displays regularly)

tumbleweed
the wanderer Sat Dec 28 00:23:44
fuckhead's current stupid argument:
"We did go on TikTok & we had a great response. We had billions of views, billions & billions of views, they brought me a chart & it was a record & it was so beautiful to see. As I looked at I said 'maybe we got to keep this sucker around for a little while'"

a past stupid argument:
"“Without TikTok, you can make Facebook bigger, and I consider Facebook to be an enemy of the people” (when he crazily decided Zuckerberg criminally interfered in the 2020 election against him...)

get a mentally fit adult... such a low fucking bar

Forwyn
Member Sat Dec 28 00:33:49
The libertarian side says give govt stooges the Luigi treatment, this is clearly a 1A violation.

The pragmatic side says Tiktok is a platform for Chinese algorithms to directly spread harmful propaganda to American youth, overwhelmingly aimed at decreasing our reproductive rates (muhh 4b, muhh bear).

The anti-tw side says that hiding behind staffers to cover your clear dementia doesn't make your decisions inherently more intelligent. Neither does basing your position on whatever is anti-Trump. Retard lol

tumbleweed
the wanderer Sat Dec 28 01:17:37
the difference being when Biden exposed as dead, he was removed from the ticket

Trump has been an obvious clown since he began his political career (so much so the conspiracy people believed he was a Hillary plant, & that lawless buffoonery hasn't improved a single bit)

tumbleweed
the wanderer Sat Dec 28 01:38:38
also note ‘harming Facebook’ or ‘ability to spread Trump propaganda to young people’ weren’t in your arguments from various sides... you need a ‘Trump side’ as the fucking idiot makes arguments that -nobody- else ever makes... that shouldn’t happen on any issue with a chosen leader, yet happens regularly with him

(plus he was against TikTok before the anti-zuckerberg position flipped him... totally nuts)

murder
Member Sat Dec 28 06:58:59

"49% of voters elected him... though the main problem was the total fucking idiot R primary voters"

And yet he's not president or anything. There is no legitimate reason for the Court to stay a law just so that their preferred president is in office to try to change it before it goes into effect.

There was no legitimate reason for them not to toss this request the moment it was submitted.

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murder
Member Sat Dec 28 07:01:59

"We did go on TikTok & we had a great response. We had billions of views, billions & billions of views, they brought me a chart & it was a record & it was so beautiful to see. As I looked at I said 'maybe we got to keep this sucker around for a little while'"

Totally not trying to pressure TikTok into boosting his content so they can stay in business.

Trump is such a low rent mobster.

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Rugian
Member Sat Dec 28 09:27:04
tumbleweed
the wanderer Sat Dec 28 00:08:31
51% of voters elected Biden

I see. So Biden, who got 51% of the vote, won the approbation of the American people, but Trump, who won 50% of the vote, is only president due to "fucking idiot" Republicans.

Double standard much?

"the difference being when Biden exposed as dead, he was removed from the ticket"

This is such bullshit gaslighting. Biden's mental problems were well known to anyone with half a brain years before the first debate, it's just that the media and party decided they were done with him after that event and decided to (undemocratically) overthrow him.

If your fucking partisan media had been doing its job in 2022-2023, there could have been open primaries that resulted in a legitimate candidate replacing Biden. Instead, we had Obama and Pelosi launch an intra-party coup because they got cold feet about their candidate at the last second.

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tumbleweed
the wanderer Sat Dec 28 11:45:22
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And yet he's not president or anything. There is no legitimate reason for the Court to stay a law just so that their preferred president is in office to try to change it before it goes into effect.

There was no legitimate reason for them not to toss this request the moment it was submitted.
"

agreed... the people who hate lawfare, elected the top abuser... absolutely no reason he has any standing to stop a law passed by congress

==================

"Double standard much?"

you're picking a fight over something stupid... i've never said all Americans are responsible for Biden's election, why would i blame them all for Trump? (& millions specifically voted -against- Trump, like me...) i'm not saying Trump wasn't elected, i'm saying he was elected by fucking idiots (he has no attachment to truth, he lies or makes up shit REGULARLY, & doesn't use facts to make decisions... it's insane... plus the clearly committed crimes, including attempting to steal an election & gross mishandling of classified info which your 'party' went from caring tons about to none about...)

& i -am- upset at Biden for ever running the 2nd time (& for his docs, & for his Hunter pardon, & his misconstrued 'garbage' comment, etc)

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murder Member	Fri Dec 27 18:06:58 President-elect Donald Trump asked the Supreme Court on Friday to pause the potential TikTok ban from going into effect until his administration can pursue a “political resolution” to the issue. The request came as TikTok and the Biden administration filed opposing briefs to the court, in which the company argued the court should strike down a law that could ban the platform by Jan. 19 while the government emphasized its position that the statute is needed to eliminate a national security risk. “President Trump takes no position on the underlying merits of this dispute. Instead, he respectfully requests that the Court consider staying the Act’s deadline for divestment of January 19, 2025, while it considers the merits of this case,” said Trump’s amicus brief, which supported neither party in the case and was written by D. John Sauer, Trump’s choice for solicitor general. The argument submitted to the court is the latest example of Trump inserting himself in national issues before he takes office. The Republican president-elect has already begun negotiating with other countries over his plans to impose tariffs, and he intervened earlier this month in a plan to fund the federal government, calling for a bipartisan plan to be rejected and sending Republicans back to the negotiating table. He has been holding meetings with foreign leaders and business officials at his Mar-a-Lago club in Florida while he assembles his administration, including a meeting last week with TikTok CEO Shou Chew. Trump has reversed his position on the popular app, having tried to ban it during his first term in office over national security concerns. He joined the TikTok during his 2024 presidential campaign and his team used it to connect with younger voters, especially male voters, by pushing content that was often macho and aimed at going viral. He said earlier this year that he still believed there were national security risks with TikTok, but that he opposed banning it. The filings Friday come ahead of oral arguments scheduled for Jan. 10 on whether the law, which requires TikTok to divest from its China-based parent company or face a ban, unlawfully restricts speech in violation of the First Amendment. The law was was signed by President Joe Biden in April after it passed Congress with broad bipartisan support. TikTok and ByteDance filed a legal challenge afterwards. Earlier this month, a panel of three federal judges on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit unanimously upheld the statute, leading TikTok to appeal the case to the Supreme Court. The brief from Trump said he opposes banning TikTok at this junction and “seeks the ability to resolve the issues at hand through political means once he takes office.” In their brief to the Supreme Court on Friday, attorneys for TikTok and its parent company ByteDance argued the federal appeals court erred in its ruling and based its decision on “alleged ‘risks’ that China could exercise control” over TikTok’s U.S. platform by pressuring its foreign affiliates. The Biden administration has argued in court that TikTok poses a national security risk due to its connections to China. Officials say Chinese authorities can compel ByteDance to hand over information on TikTok’s U.S. patrons or use the platform to spread or suppress information. But the government “concedes that it has no evidence China has ever attempted to do so,” TikTok’s legal filing said, adding that the U.S. fears are predicated on future risks. In its filing Friday, the Biden administration said because TikTok “is integrated with ByteDance and relies on its propriety engine developed and maintained in China,” its corporate structure carries with it risk. http://apn...6013a8447e9bdb5508ebe436aadf9a
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Dec 27 19:02:03 Trump likes TikTok as he got lots of views having him make decisions on any topic whatsoever is insane... yet R's elected him
Rugian Member	Fri Dec 27 19:15:39 The American people elected him.
murder Member	Fri Dec 27 19:20:22 He's not president ... or anything.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Dec 27 21:19:32 49% of voters elected him... though the main problem was the total fucking idiot R primary voters
Rugian Member	Fri Dec 27 22:12:45 * 50% And Biden got 51% in 2021...is it fair to say the American people didn't elect him then either?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Dec 28 00:08:31 51% of voters elected Biden the point is the Trump voters are fucking idiots (particularly in the primary)... why would i include all Americans Trump bases so many decisions purely on personal interest or false information (which he displays regularly)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Dec 28 00:23:44 fuckhead's current stupid argument: "We did go on TikTok & we had a great response. We had billions of views, billions & billions of views, they brought me a chart & it was a record & it was so beautiful to see. As I looked at I said 'maybe we got to keep this sucker around for a little while'" a past stupid argument: "“Without TikTok, you can make Facebook bigger, and I consider Facebook to be an enemy of the people” (when he crazily decided Zuckerberg criminally interfered in the 2020 election against him...) get a mentally fit adult... such a low fucking bar
Forwyn Member	Sat Dec 28 00:33:49 The libertarian side says give govt stooges the Luigi treatment, this is clearly a 1A violation. The pragmatic side says Tiktok is a platform for Chinese algorithms to directly spread harmful propaganda to American youth, overwhelmingly aimed at decreasing our reproductive rates (muhh 4b, muhh bear). The anti-tw side says that hiding behind staffers to cover your clear dementia doesn't make your decisions inherently more intelligent. Neither does basing your position on whatever is anti-Trump. Retard lol
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Dec 28 01:17:37 the difference being when Biden exposed as dead, he was removed from the ticket Trump has been an obvious clown since he began his political career (so much so the conspiracy people believed he was a Hillary plant, & that lawless buffoonery hasn't improved a single bit)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Dec 28 01:38:38 also note ‘harming Facebook’ or ‘ability to spread Trump propaganda to young people’ weren’t in your arguments from various sides... you need a ‘Trump side’ as the fucking idiot makes arguments that -nobody- else ever makes... that shouldn’t happen on any issue with a chosen leader, yet happens regularly with him (plus he was against TikTok before the anti-zuckerberg position flipped him... totally nuts)
murder Member	Sat Dec 28 06:58:59 "49% of voters elected him... though the main problem was the total fucking idiot R primary voters" And yet he's not president or anything. There is no legitimate reason for the Court to stay a law just so that their preferred president is in office to try to change it before it goes into effect. There was no legitimate reason for them not to toss this request the moment it was submitted. -
murder Member	Sat Dec 28 07:01:59 "We did go on TikTok & we had a great response. We had billions of views, billions & billions of views, they brought me a chart & it was a record & it was so beautiful to see. As I looked at I said 'maybe we got to keep this sucker around for a little while'" Totally not trying to pressure TikTok into boosting his content so they can stay in business. Trump is such a low rent mobster. -
Rugian Member	Sat Dec 28 09:27:04 tumbleweed the wanderer Sat Dec 28 00:08:31 51% of voters elected Biden I see. So Biden, who got 51% of the vote, won the approbation of the American people, but Trump, who won 50% of the vote, is only president due to "fucking idiot" Republicans. Double standard much? "the difference being when Biden exposed as dead, he was removed from the ticket" This is such bullshit gaslighting. Biden's mental problems were well known to anyone with half a brain years before the first debate, it's just that the media and party decided they were done with him after that event and decided to (undemocratically) overthrow him. If your fucking partisan media had been doing its job in 2022-2023, there could have been open primaries that resulted in a legitimate candidate replacing Biden. Instead, we had Obama and Pelosi launch an intra-party coup because they got cold feet about their candidate at the last second.
CHINA RULZ USA SUCKS Member	Sat Dec 28 09:36:25 TRUMB 2 SAVIOR TOKTIK AMRICANS OWND OSHD PGS PWND OSD OWNDS
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Dec 28 11:45:22 " And yet he's not president or anything. There is no legitimate reason for the Court to stay a law just so that their preferred president is in office to try to change it before it goes into effect. There was no legitimate reason for them not to toss this request the moment it was submitted. " agreed... the people who hate lawfare, elected the top abuser... absolutely no reason he has any standing to stop a law passed by congress ================== "Double standard much?" you're picking a fight over something stupid... i've never said all Americans are responsible for Biden's election, why would i blame them all for Trump? (& millions specifically voted -against- Trump, like me...) i'm not saying Trump wasn't elected, i'm saying he was elected by fucking idiots (he has no attachment to truth, he lies or makes up shit REGULARLY, & doesn't use facts to make decisions... it's insane... plus the clearly committed crimes, including attempting to steal an election & gross mishandling of classified info which your 'party' went from caring tons about to none about...) & i -am- upset at Biden for ever running the 2nd time (& for his docs, & for his Hunter pardon, & his misconstrued 'garbage' comment, etc)
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