Utopia Talk / Politics / Trump says Ukraine started the war

murder Member	Tue Feb 18 17:11:11 Because of course he did, because he's Putin's dog. This is for the pro-Ukraine Trumpers. It's time to switch sides. The big orange says so. -
murder Member	Tue Feb 18 17:12:01 The link to Trump letting Putin scratch his belly. http://www.threads.net/@cspan/post/DGO1zgxpIrP
Rugian Member	Tue Feb 18 17:40:35 “I think I have the power to end this war. And I think it’s going very well,” Trump told reporters at Mar-a-Lago on the heels of the meeting between U.S. and Russian officials. “But today I heard, ‘Oh, well we weren’t invited.’ Well, you’ve been there for three years,” Trump continued. “You should’ve ended it in three years. You should have never started it. You could have made a deal. I could have made a deal for Ukraine that would have given them almost all of the land, and no people would have been killed, and no city would have been demolished and not one dome would have been knocked down. But they chose not to do it that way.” Trump went on to rail against former President Biden as “so pathetic” before again criticizing Zelensky. “Look, you have leadership — and I like him personally. He’s fine. But I don’t care about personally. I care about getting the job done. You have leadership now that’s allowed a war to go on that should have never even happened, even without the United States.” http://the...p-ukraine-zelensky-war-russia/ HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Sam Adams Member	Tue Feb 18 17:56:34 Trump is indeed a retard.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Feb 18 18:06:44 find him criticizing Putin ever
Rugian Member	Tue Feb 18 18:12:20 Not one month ago: "Talking to reporters in the White House, [Trump] said of Russian President Vladimir Putin: “He should make a deal. I think he’s destroying Russia by not making a deal.” Trump was unprecedentedly stark, focusing on the economic damage done to Russia by the war. “I think Russia is going to be in big trouble. You take a look at their economy. You take a look at their inflation in Russia,” he added, referring to price rises edging towards 10%. “I got along with him great. I would hope he wants to make a deal.” He loosely referenced Moscow’s staggering casualty rates in a war now nearing its fourth year in which Western officials estimate 700,000 Russians have been killed or injured. “He can’t be thrilled,” Trump said of Putin. “He’s not doing so well. I mean, he’s grinding it out… it’s not making him look very good… I think he would be well off to end that war.” http://www...-ukraine-intl-latam/index.html
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Feb 18 18:32:54 ok, some extraordinarily rare criticism :p Trump promised to end the war already, so probably what motivated it as it's making him look bad now it remains extremely obvious whose side he's sympathetic too
TheChildren Member	Tue Feb 18 23:12:51 read da comments, they be trippin http://www...ial_us_peace_plan_for_ukraine/ hmmm? almost like...idk almost like they lost completely
TheChildren Member	Tue Feb 18 23:17:17 oh wait, those of us who be readin and watchin da few voices online like douglas, alrdy knew this this was always comin, yankoidland and europe blasted propfunda over 3 years... hindustantimes did not on this issue. (they do on other issues) no mattr how fast da lie, da truth always emerges victorious. bagdad bob couldnt stop abrams. almost like lalaland isnt real but those tanks r.
TheChildren Member	Tue Feb 18 23:26:03 " I don’t see why or how Ukraine would accept this. Russia has essentially run out of armor (they are literally riding Chinese dirtbikes into battle) and is even having a hard time with manpower (fewer and fewer Russians want to die in Ukraine, and no amount of money will change that). Ukraine is also hurting in the manpower department, but the entire western world still has tons of old equipment and armor to give. It’s shit that’s just gonna rust away anyways, might as well go to good use. I think as long as Ukraine is willing to fight, they won’t accept anything that doesn’t benefit them in some way, and I don’t see the poorest country in Europe wanting to give half a trillion dollars worth of raw materials to us in exchange for permanently losing 10% of their territory. Just makes no sense to me. " __________ just an xample of totally clueless braintwisted badgdad bob. da man is delirious
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Wed Feb 19 02:14:27 Unfortunately, Trump is ultimately not very intelligent, and many of his voters are low IQ, only able to see 'America First' policy through first-order thinking. The retardation almost rhymes. Trump is holding the shovel for the ground breaking ceremony of the dismantling of the US hegemony. With it the value of the USD and your long term prosperity. In the near term you will do better and that will be enough for most of the low IQ voters to forget the how and why. It was always a choice of full speed towards the cliff or half speed. I said so when he won.
Paramount Member	Wed Feb 19 06:07:48 ”Trump is ultimately not very intelligent, and many of his voters are low IQ” So what are you saying? That Hillary Clinton was right all along? ” Trump is holding the shovel for the ground breaking ceremony of the dismantling of the US hegemony” A couple of weeks ago Marc Rubio announced that US hegemony / the unioolar world is over and said that the world is returning to its normal multipolar state. You can’t blame the shovel digging entirely on Mr Trump. Much of the shovel digging has been done by Liberals.
Paramount Member	Wed Feb 19 06:11:24 A multipolar is better than a unipolar world.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Wed Feb 19 06:51:56 "So what are you saying?" Nothing for you to worry you pretty little head about.
williamthebastard Member	Wed Feb 19 12:03:28 Ukraine seems to finally be the dividing line between the European and the American fascists, the line Trump shouldnt have crossed for the European trumpists, thankfully.
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