Utopia Talk / Politics / Trump-forces attacked moms

Paramount Member	Tue Jul 21 08:47:34 Trump-forces attacked peaceful protesters with teargas and flash bangs. I’m waiting for the EU to call on the Trump-forces to respect people’s rights to protest peacefully. A Group Of Moms Formed A Human Wall To Protect Portland Protesters From Federal Officers A group of more than 30 moms created a barricade to protect hundreds of protesters from federal officers during demonstrations against police brutality and racism in Portland, Oregon, on Saturday. The women stood for a few hours outside the courthouse before federal officers used tear gas and flash bangs to disperse the crowd. Federal officers, deployed in Portland by President Trump since last week, have led to escalating tensions in the city after protesters said the officers were violating their civil rights by roaming the streets in unmarked vans and detaining people without probable cause. http://www...tland-protest-federal-officers
Average Ameriacn Member	Tue Jul 21 09:03:08 All of them had or will have abortions. Librals are all the same.
kargen Member	Tue Jul 21 17:42:01 According to the head of the agency President Trump did not deploy the officers and they have been there for quite a while just not in current numbers. They are there doing what is required. They are tasked with protecting all federal assets where ever those assets might be. And it really doesn't make a shit if they are moms or not. If they are trying to protect people that are breaking the law they need to be moved. The moms were not targeted. They were near the people that were targeted and felt the affects of the tear gas.
Pillz Member	Tue Jul 21 17:49:18 Customs & immigration has a facility in Portland. They regularly arrest and pepper spray people blockading their building (well, every summer during riot season). Theyre just stepping it up this year
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Jul 21 23:08:40 there's video of them gathered around singing, i really doubt they were guarding a bunch of arsonists & looters there is clearly no training for the goon squads (as an internal memo even acknowledged) this administration is disgusting on so many levels, stirring up disorder for the headlines could well be the point (as others have theorized) given how many total garbage people are around Trump
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jul 22 02:59:03 i've heard more than one account from MomBloc & whatever the Dad group will be called saying the goons give no warning just start spraying & firing bean bags & pepper balls & flashbangs, etc
kargen Member	Wed Jul 22 17:05:54 "there's video of them gathered around singing, i really doubt they were guarding a bunch of arsonists & looters" The common tactic of rioters is to get behind a group of protesters then attack the police with projectiles so the peaceful protesters are caught in the middle. The entire point is to make it so the police can't interact with the rioters without collateral interaction with the protesters. Protesters need to start realizing this and when they see people with containers coming up behind them donning masks they need to get the fuck away because those people behind them are there to try and get the protesters hurt.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jul 22 23:00:52 and it's entirely possible the goon squads are attacking people who aren't doing shit (as in the video proof of Capt Portland (Chris David)) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC7MHsNzobw & same as the people flushed out of the park to make way for Trump's church photo op
TJ Member	Thu Jul 23 09:27:53 All military and ex-military are outstanding citizens and all cops are criminals. Go figure... I have no sympathy for someone who is most likely drawing a full military disability pension not following Federal directives on federal property. Obviously he must of thought he was special and privileged. Guess he thought incorrectly.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jul 23 12:20:38 yes, how dare a citizen stand -outside- a barrier in front of a federal building... he deserves beaten & sprayed
TJ Member	Thu Jul 23 12:46:42 I didn't say anything about deserving anything. His privilege of being white sucked doughnut holes for sure.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jul 23 12:59:21 you having no sympathy suggests you believe he deserved it or you are saying the world is shit & he should just give up & accept it even if it gets worse & worse
hood Member	Thu Jul 23 13:12:23 "not following Federal directives on federal property." You have no ground to stand on as he was not on federal property.
TJ Member	Thu Jul 23 13:15:09 Where were all the other good protesters wile he was supposedly defending his freedom? Me having no sympathy means I have no sympathy for people who believe they are privileged and above the law. I think he should have just been peacefully arrested and federally charged.
TJ Member	Thu Jul 23 13:19:13 Hood: You are probably correct. I wouldn't even begin to say how it all will be rectified. Sometimes, right doesn't always turn out right. :)
hood Member	Thu Jul 23 13:21:44 What do you mean probably? There's video evidence. He never even makes it to the sidewalk; he's in the street the entire time. So you think he should be peacefully arrested and federally charged for... being in the street? For being in the general vicinity of federal property? That's absolute madness.
TJ Member	Thu Jul 23 13:37:49 What I mean is that I'm not certain what their authority boundaries actually are or were at the time. I'm sure we will find out sooner or later. It defiantly doesn't look good for federal officers. The guy and protesters will make the best out of the ugly video. He still doesn't get any sympathy from me.
hood Member	Thu Jul 23 13:41:42 A city street is not going to be federal property.
TJ Member	Thu Jul 23 13:56:54 I've already said I don't know the extent of their boundaries while protecting a federal building. A whole lot of ugly things happening that threaten freedoms. The laundry is going to come out dirty.
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