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Habebe
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Wed Jul 29 13:37:37
Americans are getting more nervous about what they say in public
Some 62% now believe the political climate prevents them from expressing their true beliefs

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Jul 28th 2020
TO UPSET THE twittersphere often takes no more than sharing your thoughts. For David Shor, a data scientist who until recently worked for Civis Analytics, a Democratic polling firm, all it took was sharing someone else’s. On May 28th Mr Shor tweeted a straightforward summary of a paper by Omar Wasow, a Princeton professor, which argued that, in the 1960s, violent protests were less effective than non-violent ones at swaying American public opinion in favour of the civil-rights movement. (Several news outlets, including The Economist, covered the study when it was published.) Ordinarily such a tweet would not have caused a fuss. But given its timing, amid a wave of protests and civil unrest following the death of George Floyd, some Twitter users deemed the tweet hostile to the cause. Mr Shor’s bosses appear to have agreed. Two weeks after the offending post, he was sacked. (Mr Shor has signed a non-disclosure agreement which prevents him from disclosing why he was let go.)

Is the Twitter mob that went after Mr Shor a sign that free speech in America is under threat? Commentators on the left do not think so. The free-speech “crisis”, they say, is a myth manufactured by privileged elites who face few barriers to expressing their own opinions. Yet polling data suggest that plenty of people feel they are being muzzled by contemporary politics. A new survey from the Cato Institute, a libertarian think-tank, finds that 62% of Americans say they cannot express all of their views in today’s political climate, up from 58% in 2017
Habebe
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Wed Jul 29 13:38:50
http://www...-about-what-they-say-in-public
Dakyron
Member
Wed Jul 29 14:14:08
Well, people are being fired for espousing general conservative, pro-trump remarks. Nothing controversial here, just "I support Trump" type of stuff.

So yeah, you should be wary.
Paramount
Member
Wed Jul 29 14:22:10
” 62% of Americans say they cannot express all of their views in today’s political climate”

And yet, the opportunity to express one's views and reach a large audience has never been as great as it is today with the internet and social media.

It’s just that there are millions of other people who also wants to express their views and they may not agree with your views. So there will be a clash.

Perhaps people who can’t handle it should stay off twitter?

Perhaps there is a limit to how much free speech people can handle?

Remember before twitter and social media? No one complained about that they didn’t have any free speech back then. Kinda funny.
Dakyron
Member
Wed Jul 29 14:24:41
http://www...e-inappropriate-meant-to-unify

"A Michigan social studies teacher and baseball coach has claimed he was fired after posting pro-Trump tweets, telling “Fox & Friends” on Thursday that the tweets were meant to “unify” and that “nothing in the tweets are inappropriate.”

Justin Kucera said that administrators with the Walled Lake school district in Commerce Township, Mich., questioned him during a Zoom meeting after he tweeted support for Trump reopening schools.

“I’m done being silent. @realDonaldTrump is our president. Don’t @ me,” Kucera tweeted on July 6.

Kucera said he posted “a couple tweets … in support of President Trump,” which included a “retweet of president Trump saying that schools should open in the fall.”"
Habebe
Member
Wed Jul 29 14:49:52
Paramount, Weve had social media for like 20 years... Not until the rise of cancel culture and quarintine/floyd adding gas on the fire.

And it's not just those who " can't take it" but people losing there jobs and more.

This isn't just the right worried about This but Obama has spoke put about it a lot.
Habebe
Member
Wed Jul 29 14:49:52
Paramount, Weve had social media for like 20 years... Not until the rise of cancel culture and quarintine/floyd adding gas on the fire.

And it's not just those who " can't take it" but people losing there jobs and more.

This isn't just the right worried about This but Obama has spoke put about it a lot.
Average Ameriacn
Member
Wed Jul 29 15:06:48
I support Trump!
I love guns!
I'm a proud Christian!
I'm white!
I'm 100 per cent male with a penis!

Now fire me!
Habebe
Member
Wed Jul 29 15:13:51
I suppoet Trump
Like gun
Refuse to bend the knee to a new
Im literally Anglo and Saxonl
12% other with a dual penis
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Wed Jul 29 15:19:55
There is actually a site who keep track of The canceled.

http://www.canceledpeople.com/cancelations
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Wed Jul 29 15:20:22
who = that
kargen
Member
Wed Jul 29 16:10:10
People have been attacked while eating in a cafe just because they were wearing a red cap. Doesn't even have to be a MAGA cap. Any red cap can set off some idiot who will attack you.

Gundy (football coach at OSU) faced all kinds of backlash for wearing a One America News Network t-shirt while fishing. He had to agree to a pay cut and a few other things to maybe keep his job. The outrage over a t-shirt shows how pathetic these little snowflakes have become. Oh he was fishing during the summer with a shirt that promotes a news (well as much a news organization as CNN or MSNBC) organization and had his photo taken my life is ruined forever I'm so devastated. It is getting fucking stupid.
Paramount
Member
Wed Jul 29 16:23:17
People have been attacked because they have brown skin too. It doesn’t have to be black skin, but any dark shade can set off some idiot who will attack you.
Paramount
Member
Wed Jul 29 16:23:17
People have been attacked because they have brown skin too. It doesn’t have to be black skin, but any dark shade can set off some idiot who will attack you.
Paramount
Member
Wed Jul 29 16:38:44
Habebe,
” Weve had social media for like 20 years...”

Facebook 2004. Twitter 2006. So 15 years. But then, neither Facebook or Twitter were as big in 2006 as they are today. It took a few years before it became a thing. So maybe we can say that we have had social media as we know it today for like 10-12 years.

Maybe around 2008 the political climate started to get more polarized for each year that has passed since.

And what happened in 2008? Obama was elected in 2008, and some people could not accept that, and I think that was the catalusator that set off all the hate, the crazyness and the polarization in Amerikka.
Paramount
Member
Wed Jul 29 16:48:54
Nimatzo
iChihuaha Wed Jul 29 15:19:55
There is actually a site who keep track of The canceled.

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That database is not complete. They have forgot or purposely excluded every person who has been defamed, fired or jailed for saying anything about Jews or the Holocaust.
Paramount
Member
Wed Jul 29 16:51:20
Mel Gibson for an example. Just to name one. He should be on canceledpeople.com
kargen
Member
Wed Jul 29 17:47:10
"People have been attacked because they have brown skin too."

Well that makes all the recent attacks for wearing a red hat okay then.

"Obama was elected in 2008, and some people could not accept that, and I think that was the catalusator that set off all the hate, the crazyness and the polarization in Amerikka."

Maybe in part. Also there was the attitude among many blacks that finally they were going to get everything they wanted. Not all blacks but enough to really add to the tension and division. They thought President Obama was going to fix all their problems and became disillusioned and bitter when that did not happen. A few even thought roles would somehow be reversed and all of the perceived privileges they thought white people enjoyed would now be enjoyed by them. Saw one interview where the guy said finally white people will see what it is to be controlled by the man.
THey had no idea how limited a presidents power is and it pissed them off when they found out.

And President Obama had more than a few racist people on his cabinet and in other important positions. Can't blame white supremacists for all the divide. Hell most of them were buying land and bunkering in Idaho for the eventual end of the world that they saw as all but inevitable with a black man as president.
Habebe
Member
Wed Jul 29 18:59:12
Paramount. Well, I'll agree as qe have it today fewer years.

But FB wasnt the first social media, I had a MySpace account long before FB.
Paramount
Member
Thu Jul 30 01:52:22
Here’s another one who has been cancelled and muzzled for speaking his views:



Twitter permanently bans British rapper Wiley over anti-Semitism

Twitter has permanently suspended the account of a high-profile British rapper and apologised for its initially slow response to his series of anti-Jewish messages posted last week.

The social media giant, along with photo-sharing site Instagram, on Friday banned grime artist Wiley from their platforms for seven days after he sent the messages earlier that day.

But some of the messages remained visible for hours, drawing criticism in the United Kingdom and prompting politicians, celebrities and other high-profile figures to launch a 48-hour Twitter boycott from Monday.

"Upon further investigation, our teams have permanently suspended the account in question for repeated violations of our hateful conduct policy," Twitter said in a statement on Wednesday.

http://www...-semitism-200729135406901.html
Habebe
Member
Thu Jul 30 02:04:14
Who met British people rap?
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