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Rugian
Member
Wed Oct 07 19:52:56
Here we go...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Oct 07 20:14:03
well Pence must be deaf as he didn't address question at all
Rugian
Member
Wed Oct 07 20:15:10
And neither did Harris. So there you go.
Rugian
Member
Wed Oct 07 20:15:14
You hack.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Oct 07 20:17:00
Pence continues to be deaf
Habebe
Member
Wed Oct 07 20:18:03
Both candidates are ignoring the actual questions.
Habebe
Member
Wed Oct 07 20:19:59
All these questions are tilted against Trump...blatantly.

Can qe get a list of the questions.
Rugian
Member
Wed Oct 07 20:22:08
Moderator (who is already clearly anti-Trump) attempted to prevent Pence from being able to hit the Dems on undermining public confidence in the vaccine.

Pence wasn't having any of that shit. Lol
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Oct 07 20:22:58
Pence is really bullshitting the hell out of that non answer
Rugian
Member
Wed Oct 07 20:23:51
"And I thin Joe selected me because..."

Because he decided to go full pandering and committed himself to a woman veep you cunt.
Habebe
Member
Wed Oct 07 20:24:12
So Biden is near death, what happens when he dies?

Kamala: Yes I have defended people from banks.


Worst moderator ever btw.
Rugian
Member
Wed Oct 07 20:27:55
Kamala's rambling about taxes in response to a question about Biden's health

Moderator is doing fuck all
Habebe
Member
Wed Oct 07 20:30:13
This isnt even entertaining.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Oct 07 20:30:51
Kamala will crush him in the swimsuit competition
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Oct 07 20:35:28
ooh Pence just said they "spared no expense" bringing to mind Jurassic Park doom

fatal mistake, surely
Habebe
Member
Wed Oct 07 20:38:22
Pence cleaely pulling ahead as she comes off bitchy and wrong on the tracking issue.
Rugian
Member
Wed Oct 07 20:38:25
Who gives a flying fuck about climate change
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Oct 07 20:38:46
ooh Trump and Pence have a plan for healthcare and protecting preexisting conditions... then he says not a single detail about it...
Rugian
Member
Wed Oct 07 20:38:49
" she comes off bitchy"

Oh yeah she is.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Oct 07 20:40:48
"Trump has made it clear we will listen to the science on climate"

Ummm... wha??
jergul
large member
Wed Oct 07 20:43:05
So now she has been called a cunt and a bitch by the two forum ingrates.

Harris is obviously crushing Pence.
Rugian
Member
Wed Oct 07 20:43:26
Kamala's repeated use of "Joe" is infuriating...we get it bitch, we're supposed to think of him as a blue collar Scranton boy rather than a 50-year DC insider.
Rugian
Member
Wed Oct 07 20:44:01
Jergul

I see you're displaying your usual level of informedness on the topic at hand.
Habebe
Member
Wed Oct 07 20:45:07
Pence is doing great on the green new deal issue. Tracking she back peddled on because of states like PA.
jergul
large member
Wed Oct 07 20:46:51
Ruggy
You felt the need to go with cunt and bitch. You are obviously feeling threatened. Harris is crushing it!

Habebe
Member
Wed Oct 07 20:47:03
Harris did well for once talking about rent. But that's it.
Rugian
Member
Wed Oct 07 20:47:21
Yeah surprisingly decent response by Pence there.

In other news, Kamala doesnt know how old her child is.
Habebe
Member
Wed Oct 07 20:48:38
Much more coherent all around than the potus debates though.
Habebe
Member
Wed Oct 07 20:49:10
Yeah Pence has been crushing it.
Forwyn
Member
Wed Oct 07 20:50:58
" she comes off bitchy"

This will win her massive points from Twitter faggots and jergulsebs. Strong womxn with a smirk and side-eye get the social media circlejerk.
Rugian
Member
Wed Oct 07 20:51:31
Eh, I feel like his China answer was a bit of a missed opportunity...China has done so much more fuckery than he acknowledges there.
jergul
large member
Wed Oct 07 20:52:26
How is Pence doing on defending Trump's taxes :D.

Harris is also up 90 seconds on speaking time. Your boy there is getting steamrolled.

He is used to giving up the stage, so we get it.
Forwyn
Member
Wed Oct 07 20:52:27
"Ten Times Kamala's Clapbacks Broke the Internet", to be published on the Buzzfeed by 10am tomorrow

lEt Me FiNiSh will be #1
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Oct 07 20:52:29
"Much more coherent all around than the potus debates though."

meaning Trump is bored and unhappy
Rugian
Member
Wed Oct 07 20:52:45
And of course Kamala is completely dodging the question because Biden is a CCP toadie.
Habebe
Member
Wed Oct 07 20:54:44
"Harris is also up 90 seconds on speaking time"

She apparently stutters too and and and and and and and and has said and.
Habebe
Member
Wed Oct 07 20:55:56
She sounds like she is going to cry all the time.

The moderator is giving her more uninterupted time though, she just isnt using ir as well.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Oct 07 20:56:12
good response by Kamala on foreign policy which Pence will ignore as no defense
jergul
large member
Wed Oct 07 20:59:03
Your bitchy and cunty attitudes show clearly you have finally realized Trump is losing the election.

Good for you!

The debate does not matter beyond getting to know the most likely president elects in 2024

Harris at about 40% chance. Pence at perhaps 10%.
Rugian
Member
Wed Oct 07 20:59:06
Theres a reason why she got crushed in the primaries. This woman is unlikable to the core.
Habebe
Member
Wed Oct 07 20:59:25
Kamala just dropped te ball by admitting they fucked up and got that girl killed.
Rugian
Member
Wed Oct 07 20:59:37
Jergul

That was for Habebe. I'm ignoring your spam.
Forwyn
Member
Wed Oct 07 21:08:10
Lol @ Kamala's false indignation over her attack on faith of routine district judge confirmation
Habebe
Member
Wed Oct 07 21:08:37
http://www...=1104&itg=1&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim

Is this not a dead ringer for Harris?

Pence being asked for HC details may be the toughest question yet that isn't partisan BS.
Habebe
Member
Wed Oct 07 21:09:48
Pence had a masterful pivot though.Putting her in the spot.

I'd like see her response.
Habebe
Member
Wed Oct 07 21:11:29
She blinked.
Rugian
Member
Wed Oct 07 21:12:42
Pence dodged the preexisting conditions question

Kamala dodged the court packing question

Point: Pence
jergul
large member
Wed Oct 07 21:13:30
habebe
Pence lost the debate when he said "Trump always told the truth about covid-19".

That blatant lie will be the takeaway.

gg.
Habebe
Member
Wed Oct 07 21:14:30
He definitley dodged it, but he controlled the narritive, she just giggled and back peddled.

Pence has way exceeded my expectations.
Rugian
Member
Wed Oct 07 21:17:48
Oh god, theres a fly on Pences hair.
Rugian
Member
Wed Oct 07 21:18:16
And he was giving such a good answer too. Shame.
Rugian
Member
Wed Oct 07 21:19:06
Yeah he clearly.prepared for this. If only his running mate had done the same.
Forwyn
Member
Wed Oct 07 21:19:32
Looooooool whining about her prosecutorial record

Hopefully he gives her the Tulsi treatment
habebe
Member
Wed Oct 07 21:25:23
Rugian, He definitley did better than Trump in this format.
habebe
Member
Wed Oct 07 21:27:01
Thats a nasty question....as Trump would say.

" peacefull transfer of power" nonsense.
Rugian
Member
Wed Oct 07 21:32:41
And he still nailed it.

And then he nailed that 8th graders question.

Goddamn, where has this guy been for the last four years? Hes actually a great face for the administration.
obaminated
Member
Wed Oct 07 21:32:44
Harris sucked her way to her position. This shows. She isnt smart or clever or witty. She is just a minority that white men fucked all her life. Pence is crafted and calm, he won.
Rugian
Member
Wed Oct 07 21:36:10
Obam

Pretty much. Her one achievement in the primaries was insinuating that (her now boss) Joe Biden is a bigot. And then she immediately lost all momentum and bowed out in disgrace.

The months since then have clearly done nothing to make her a better candidate.
habebe
Member
Wed Oct 07 21:38:54
Penced owned this debate. They should let him talk more often.
habebe
Member
Wed Oct 07 21:39:39
Ghe court packing question was the best moment, most memorable.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Oct 07 21:40:55
the fly getting the most mentions on Twitter
habebe
Member
Wed Oct 07 21:46:11
When TW wont claim a Harris win that says enough.
Rugian
Member
Wed Oct 07 21:46:27
That motherfucker stayed on him for several minutes too.

Looks like Hillary's army of covert insect drones earned its keep tonight.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Oct 07 21:51:40
good fly tweet
(spatula video, may have to scroll down one post)
http://twitter.com/vtwrx/status/1314029963503337472?s=21
habebe
Member
Wed Oct 07 22:11:42
TW, The fly aside, you will admit Kamala did not win that debate.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Oct 07 22:25:56
I skipped out after Pence was taking advantage (again) of those parents' grief and their belief Trump would've saved their daughter... totally disgraceful... (plus debate was boring)

I'll say Kamala didn't hammer him on things she should've (just like Biden missed a lot of opportunities)

and I'm willing to say Pence is a piece of shit... 'more people would've died from swine flu than coronavirus if it had been much more deadly'? yeah, because Obama / Biden wouldn't have adjusted strategy?

plus when I tuned back in he was saying the FBI spied on their campaign... which I'll assume was not responsive to any question... so he's got saying Trumps nonsense talking points down

but obviously Pence better than Trump, as is anyone
habebe
Member
Wed Oct 07 22:28:10
Right after you checked out Kamalla apologized for letting that girl die , idnt defend the point.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Oct 07 22:39:18
that didn't happen

although Pence did concede that Trump lost the trade war with China
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Oct 07 22:42:26
Philip Bump's twitter poll of who won:

49.4% Harris
24.1% Pence
23.1% The fly
3.4% Plexiglass

(the 'President' of the United States treats twitter polls as meaningful, so that's meaningful)
habebe
Member
Wed Oct 07 22:45:30
It was hard to find a winner of thenpotus debates as, i just felt confused and discombobulated. This was clear.
Y2A
Member
Wed Oct 07 22:46:12
harris was strong at the very beginning prosecuting the clown's covid response. after that it got kind of bland. pence was a normal politician, did not really make many errors but nothing new. was good to see a normal debate instead of the clown yelling for over an hour.
habebe
Member
Wed Oct 07 22:48:45
Phil bump works for the Washington post.
habebe
Member
Wed Oct 07 22:49:57
Pence got in several focal points.

Court packing, Fracking/GND and the Baghdad girl.
Dukhat
Member
Wed Oct 07 23:00:37
Court packing will be an electoral winner. All the white evangelicals are dead. Nobody wants to have a case determined by a judge appointed by a man about to go to jail (Trump).

Fracking/GND has a huge generational divide. Over time, it gets more and more support. Fracking is dead anyways. It's not an electoral winner for Republicans in swing states anymore.

Baghdad girl ... who gives AF.

Debate didn't change anything. Both looked competent to be president. The fly will be all anyone talks about.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Oct 07 23:00:58
Biden's plan is NOT banning fracking
just no new fracking on federal lands

Pence deliberately lying on that

just like when giving his canned response that Kamala was spreading doubt on vaccines right after she made it perfectly clear she wasn't... 'if doctors approve, first in line... if just Trump no fucking way'... as is the 100% correct view

Trump has the least trustworthy medical advice of anyone out there (as he proved again today in fact)
Forwyn
Member
Wed Oct 07 23:07:07
"I skipped out after Pence was taking advantage (again) of those parents' grief and their belief Trump would've saved their daughter... totally disgraceful..."

The Obama "strategy" in Syria was disgraceful. Parents are entitled to their opinion and have undoubtedly signed off on it multiple times.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Oct 07 23:11:40
the parents are entitled to think whatever they want

team Trump using them at convention & debate is disgusting

we have no idea what the situation Obama was presented with was, but team Trump doesn't give a shit, all about playing on the emotions
habebe
Member
Wed Oct 07 23:17:59
The thing with Tracking is that the people for it are more likley to vote on that issue as its a matter of livelihood. Most who oppose it, it doesnt seem an important issue to them.
Pillz
Member
Wed Oct 07 23:18:12
Can you live stream your suicide?
habebe
Member
Wed Oct 07 23:20:22
tracking=fracking

My autocorrect doesn't recognize the term.
RepublicanRetard
Member
Wed Oct 07 23:21:51
DRILL BABY DRILL!
Forwyn
Member
Wed Oct 07 23:46:51
"we have no idea what the situation Obama was presented with was"

We have a strong idea that the Obama administration created the quagmire that led to the situation.
Dukhat
Member
Thu Oct 08 00:09:29
Pretty sure the Middle East was fucked up well before Obama got there. And the quagmire has many causes not least of which the Russians trying to prop up the Syrian regime which looked likely to fall soon enough. Obama did not want to use decisive force or withdraw which caused a quagmire.

Good thing Trump abandoned our allies and gave Russia exactly what it wanted! So much amazing, such wow. Undoubtedly, this will not be the last we hear of the situation because the can always get kicked down the road.
habebe
Member
Thu Oct 08 00:14:05
The I my reason Syria matters is we dont want Iran to have a puppet.

Out goal in the region should be to assist the Sunni nations in controlling the Shia nut jobs that hate the West.

Basically fuck the ayatollahs/ Iranian government.
habebe
Member
Thu Oct 08 00:14:43
The only reason*
habebe
Member
Thu Oct 08 00:20:19
Now I know I'll hear bitching about Sunni terrorists. Yes they have them too.But they dont have state support and aim towards political power, thus less of a threat.

Saddaam was pretty good in retrospect keeping everyine in line.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 08 00:30:11
i was talking specifically about the Pence noting the apparent opportunity for a raid that Obama didn't take & that the family believed Trump would've done it & that she would've been there & successfully rescued

their monday morning QBing belief is fine for them to have, but yields no factual info for the public to weigh upon
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 08 00:32:37
now back to more relevant stuff

close-up of fly
http://twitter.com/AdamPadilla/status/1314069968070283264
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 08 00:33:20
cat trying to eat fly
http://twitter.com/Jackasaurus3/status/1314068607375089665
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 08 00:37:04
"I moved on him like a bitch."
~ one of the many 'pence fly' twitter accounts

(a reference to a Trump comment)
jergul
large member
Thu Oct 08 01:32:30
Anyone the fly landed on lost the debate. Sorry, but a fly is just too good at dominating twitter.

Still, it does not matter. We got to know two future presidential candidates. Both are ok.
renzo marQuez
Member
Thu Oct 08 05:12:23
tumbleweed
the wanderer Wed Oct 07 23:11:40
"we have no idea what the situation Obama was presented with was, but team Trump doesn't give a shit, all about playing on the emotions"

This is not true. We know all about this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_Sycamore

and this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHiIhCrQO6I
Forwyn
Member
Thu Oct 08 05:36:49
"Pretty sure the Middle East was fucked up well before Obama got there. And the quagmire has many causes not least of which the Russians trying to prop up the Syrian regime which looked likely to fall soon enough. Obama did not want to use decisive force or withdraw which caused a quagmire."

Lol. Obama's illicit aid to jihadis started years before Russia's intervention, which stopped a Western-led coup.
obaminated
Member
Thu Oct 08 05:48:16
Dukhat is the sort of guy who doesnt get upset about a woman getting gang raped for the last 18 months of her life. "Who cares?"

Go fuck off on your pretend yacht you basement dweller.
Forwyn
Member
Thu Oct 08 06:13:22
I mean, I realize the Cuckhats of the world have the memories of goldfish, bought the lies that were being fed to them at the time (no lethal aid, lol), and never bothered to check back up on it.

Here's UP arguing about Western aid in 2013. Seb was wringing his hands that it wasn't enough.

It ramped up until jihadis were on the capital's doorstep, and Russia intervened in 2015.

You have to have the skeleton of a correct timeline down before you participate in this discussion, Cuckhat.
Forwyn
Member
Thu Oct 08 06:13:33
http://www...&thread=65716&showdeleted=true
Habebe
Member
Thu Oct 08 06:55:48
You know, I wish these posts would have a year attatched to them.

How about it turtle crawler?
renzo marQuez
Member
Thu Oct 08 07:11:42
It would be nice to be able to go back to threads from the early days of the Libya and Syria interventions... I can't find them using Jewgle.
jergul
large member
Thu Oct 08 09:33:52
Forwyn
That did not seem so much UP as me debating seb.
Dukhat
Member
Thu Oct 08 10:15:53
Foreskin wants to go jerking off about middle east minutae nonody cares about and still doesn’t know jack shit about basic economics. Have fun raising 4 dumbass kids with less than 6 figures moron.
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