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Habebe
Member
Wed Nov 25 00:18:01
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1248900

Just more evidence that CA is a failed state.
jergul
large member
Wed Nov 25 01:23:03
Boy, Trump losing the election by more than 6 million votes really bunched up your panties.

habebe
Member
Wed Nov 25 01:31:29
what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
jergul
large member
Wed Nov 25 05:41:59
http://en....es_of_the_United_States_by_GDP

Habebe
Member
Wed Nov 25 05:53:11
Doesn't that make it all the worse? Its a state that has such a high gdp amd still fails at basic governance?
Habebe
Member
Wed Nov 25 05:54:19
If that is a measure of success, than Trump is the most successful world leader.
Rugian
Member
Wed Nov 25 07:10:34
"Tens of thousands of prison and jail inmates have carried out what prosecutors described Tuesday as possibly the largest fraud scheme in California history.

The alleged crimes, which center on pandemic unemployment benefits, could total as much as $1 billion, Sacramento County District Attorney Anne Marie Schubert said."

Just to give a reminder...Nancy Pelosi wants the federal government to bail out her state.

Now we see where that bailout money would be going.
renzo marQuez
Member
Wed Nov 25 07:16:16
jergul
large member Wed Nov 25 01:23:03
"Boy, Trump losing the election by more than 6 million votes really bunched up your panties."

6 million you say? Hmmmm.
Sam Adams
Member
Wed Nov 25 11:51:52
No checks on covid handouts? Of course california is that retarded.
kargen
Member
Wed Nov 25 14:12:28
"Boy, Trump losing the election by more than 6 million votes really bunched up your panties."

There are only 538 votes total.
jergul
large member
Wed Nov 25 15:02:17
Lol. And only our king can form a government in Norway :D.

You live in a democracy kargen. I will be the first to tell you when that is no longer true (for example if 538 electors steal the election from the people of each state).
kargen
Member
Wed Nov 25 15:13:23
No we live in a Representative Republic. The United States of America has never been a Democracy.
jergul
large member
Wed Nov 25 15:15:33
And I live in a Monarchy where the King appoints governments.

Like I said, I will tell you when you slip past the pale into fascism.
jergul
large member
Wed Nov 25 15:17:28
Kargen, 1935: Germany is a representative republic. Our leader is just using the laws available to him to do what is best for our country.
kargen
Member
Wed Nov 25 15:46:58
It is amazing the leaps of insane logic and hyperbole you will spew forth instead of admitting you fucked up and made a mistake. You even managed to work in a thinly veiled Hitler comparison.

You need to accept you know very little about the United States and start googling shit before you post. It will save you all these embarrassing deflections when you get shit wrong.

Prediction is President-elect Biden will win 306-232.
306 is a lot smaller than six million.
jergul
large member
Wed Nov 25 15:57:31
Kargen
I am not the one employing insane logic and hyperbole. It's inherent to "The US has never been a democracy".

There is nothing magic about your representative democracy. Governments are almost always formed indirectly.

Thinly veiled? Well, hitler used the mechanisms put into place before he gained power to keep power until he shot himself.

The road to fascism is paved with insane logic and hyperbole. You should try to cut back on it.
kargen
Member
Wed Nov 25 16:10:00
While our country does allow for a Democracy form of government at the local and state levels at the national level, as example choosing the president, it is a Representative Republic.

So point still stands. The government type for the United States is not and has not been a Democracy. There are traits of a Democracy within the Republic.

And we are taking away from the discussion on what a shit hole California is.
habebe
Member
Wed Nov 25 16:40:29
Jergul,You forget that Hitler also killed his political opponents.

Afaik, Obama is the only president to order assassinations on US citizens without due process...could be wrong though.

Also you forgot the big thing about Hitler, you know that minor detail where he executed millions of people in horrible conditions.
jergul
large member
Wed Nov 25 17:06:56
Kargen
Representative democracy is democracy. You are typing nonsense. Representation is the norm, not the exception.

What you are saying is true if, and only if, the electoral college does not follow the popular vote from each individual state.

The term then would be a Fascist State.

Habebe
I can't breath.
habebe
Member
Wed Nov 25 17:24:36
Try Zyrtec and albuterol.
jergul
large member
Wed Nov 25 17:59:51
habebe
Swoosh.

Re genocide. Your go to solution to every global issue is nuking China. I know that is just you being you.

We know you will never use nuclear weapons and would surrender to any country able to defeat you conventionally, because genocide on a global scale with weapons of mass destruction is just something the US would never even consider doing.
habebe
Member
Wed Nov 25 18:07:54
On a completely serious note though, you do realize the difference.

However the largest intentiinal mass slaughters to date were carried out by the predecessors of the EU and China.
jergul
large member
Wed Nov 25 18:16:30
My point was always that adherence to legalistic slights of hand can have devastating consequences.

Hitler ruled through emergency powers enacted entirely legally and nazi germany generally followed the rule of law where executive orders played an important part.

The relatively advanced doors to the gas chambers were designed and delivered by engineering firms following the contract specifications they had with the state.

It's the banality of evil, stupid.
habebe
Member
Wed Nov 25 18:21:21
Hitler clearly broke the law when he murdered his political opponents to foster his rise.
jergul
large member
Wed Nov 25 18:29:36
Perhaps he did, but the police and courts of the Weimar republic only charged, convicted, and jailed him for insurrection.

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