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habebe
Member Mon Nov 30 11:12:51
Not alarming that there is fraud or even miscoints or anything. The defendants argument against having the machined inspected is what's alarming.

The defendants also argued that allowing experts working for plaintiffs to inspect the machines “would pose substantial security and proprietary/trade secret risks,” Batten’s order says.

http://www...chines-georgia-counties-441342

That sounds really fucking shady that they are not subject to regular inspection by multiple parties.

Trump is trying to sow doubt, but shennanigans like that only help his case.

Dakyron
Member Mon Nov 30 12:02:06
Of course, in reality, the federal government oversees and ratifies any code used in these elections.

So... yeah... unless Trump is alleging that his own branch of government conspired to remove him from office, then its nonsense.

Daemon
Member Mon Nov 30 12:02:10
Nothing new. Or do you considered such things a problem in 2016, too?

Dakyron
Member Mon Nov 30 12:02:31
Also, the machines used go through a public test prior to the election. So again... nonsense.

habebe
Member Mon Nov 30 12:06:01
If that's the case, then why argue that?

habebe
Member Mon Nov 30 12:08:16
You seem to.be under the perception that I think Trumpa claims are credible and massive voter fraud caused Biden to win. I thought I made that clear.

My point is that for ALL elections these machines should be subject to regular and random tests and inspections.

Dakyron
Member Mon Nov 30 13:21:50
"My point is that for ALL elections these machines should be subject to regular and random tests and inspections. "

They are. You just are only allowed to test, not inspect the code, etc... That is only done by the federal government.

patom
Member Mon Nov 30 15:22:36
In the case of Georgia, how many tests and cross tests would ever satisfy Trump? They had an election and the paper ballots were counted by a machine.
They had a manual recount which gave them the same results.
Which Trump owned laboratory would you like the machines and ballots to be turned over to?

habebe
Member Mon Nov 30 15:45:48
PAtom, Its not about satisfying Trump.

Its about transparency in elections in general. If these machines dont allow that, we shouldn't use them, ever.

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habebe Member	Mon Nov 30 11:12:51 Not alarming that there is fraud or even miscoints or anything. The defendants argument against having the machined inspected is what's alarming. The defendants also argued that allowing experts working for plaintiffs to inspect the machines “would pose substantial security and proprietary/trade secret risks,” Batten’s order says. http://www...chines-georgia-counties-441342 That sounds really fucking shady that they are not subject to regular inspection by multiple parties. Trump is trying to sow doubt, but shennanigans like that only help his case.
Dakyron Member	Mon Nov 30 12:02:06 Of course, in reality, the federal government oversees and ratifies any code used in these elections. So... yeah... unless Trump is alleging that his own branch of government conspired to remove him from office, then its nonsense.
Daemon Member	Mon Nov 30 12:02:10 Nothing new. Or do you considered such things a problem in 2016, too?
Dakyron Member	Mon Nov 30 12:02:31 Also, the machines used go through a public test prior to the election. So again... nonsense.
habebe Member	Mon Nov 30 12:06:01 If that's the case, then why argue that?
habebe Member	Mon Nov 30 12:08:16 You seem to.be under the perception that I think Trumpa claims are credible and massive voter fraud caused Biden to win. I thought I made that clear. My point is that for ALL elections these machines should be subject to regular and random tests and inspections.
Dakyron Member	Mon Nov 30 13:21:50 "My point is that for ALL elections these machines should be subject to regular and random tests and inspections. " They are. You just are only allowed to test, not inspect the code, etc... That is only done by the federal government.
patom Member	Mon Nov 30 15:22:36 In the case of Georgia, how many tests and cross tests would ever satisfy Trump? They had an election and the paper ballots were counted by a machine. They had a manual recount which gave them the same results. Which Trump owned laboratory would you like the machines and ballots to be turned over to?
habebe Member	Mon Nov 30 15:45:48 PAtom, Its not about satisfying Trump. Its about transparency in elections in general. If these machines dont allow that, we shouldn't use them, ever.
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