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Utopia Talk / Politics / Vaccines VIII: AMURICAH!!!!!!
Rugian
Member
Sun Apr 25 16:12:02
Habebe

Can you please tell your redneck friends and neighbors to stop fucking their sisters and get the shot already? SC is well behind the national average.

You are at least doing better than Alabama and Mississippi though...what fucking embarrassments those states are.
Rugian
Member
Sun Apr 25 16:16:07
There is definitely a political divide when it comes to vaccination at this point.

The states that are noticeably below the national average are Nevada, Idaho, Wyoming, Utah, Texas, Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, Idaho, West Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia.

All but three of those states are GOP strongholds.

And that's despite the fact that Trump has repeatedly encouraged people to get the vaccine (he did so again this week...which establishment media of course completely ignored). Which proves that Republican voters aren't "Trump cultists"...rather it's Trump who was a manifestation of the average GOP voter.
Habebe
Member
Sun Apr 25 16:18:01
I don't talk to locals, My radiator rhymes with gladiator and I fill it with wooder.

I smoke/talk to the one neighbor pretty much, other than that it's jist family or friends from up north I have visit me ( Extra space and close to.the beach)
Rugian
Member
Sun Apr 25 16:18:31
To be fair, some GOP states are trending at or above the national average. Florida, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Montana, South & North Dakota, Iowa, Kentucky, Ohio, and Alaska are all doing well on vacciantions.
Habebe
Member
Sun Apr 25 16:36:39
I talked about my thoughts on why SC is lagging before.

1. There is no more push, initially they were really marketing it, places would call you and offer it, come to your house if needed etc.

But that was for high risk people, s regular folks have no push, and there isnt much we rush for.
jergul
large member
Sun Apr 25 17:15:43
Jergul: 50% after January 1st 2022
Ruggy: 50% before January 1st 2022
Sammy: 50% before June 1st 2021
Fowyn: 50% before November 1st 2021
Habebe: 50% before July 1st 2021
State Department: 50% by May 19th 2021
Obam: 50% before May 15th 2021

===========

For the same reasons people bail on antibiotics as soon as symptoms are relieved.

For covid it is actually rational from an individual perspective.

Initial low risk + partial vaccination = very little risk of hospitalization.

Are you guys starting to see your vaccine optimism may be misplaced?
Habebe
Member
Sun Apr 25 17:41:17
I'm very comfortable that by July 1st or earlier the US will reach 50% fully vaxed.
Rugian
Member
Mon Apr 26 09:48:36
Jergul

I'd prefer to get my analysis of American vaccination trends from someone who doesn't hate America.
Rugian
Member
Mon Apr 26 09:58:23
Apparently new appointments for vaccinations in NYC have nosedived. Some good analysis here...whites and Asians are getting the vaccine, while African Americans and Latinos are serious underperforming.

http://cha...emand?__twitterunderperformed.

I'm so glad that now-President Harris spent the better part of late 2020 discouraging people from getting any vaccine put out by the Trump administration.
Sam Adams
Member
Mon Apr 26 10:26:26
Well at least our non-retarded communities will be safe.
Sam Adams
Member
Mon Apr 26 10:28:33
Too late to save jergul though. A slowing of the vax rate doesnt help when he is off by 7 whole months.
Hrothgar
Member
Mon Apr 26 11:03:39
The mind of the typical no vac American:

Do not fear covid19! It only has a 1% chance to put you in the hospital and even smaller of killing you!!

Also DO NOT get vaccinated because there is a .0001% chance it could kill you with blood clots!! Scary stuff!!

We really need to get up to like 70%+ to see the risk of significant outbreaks that pressure hospitals to fade away.

I suppose if we include those who have already had the virus in addition to the vaccinated we aren't as far away from that as it might first appear. I wonder what the overlap is of recovered from covid plus also got vaccinated.
Hrothgar
Member
Mon Apr 26 11:05:16
Also it appears my prediction last year that India was at the top of the list of a place at risk of horrendous covid numbers was a year off.

A stark lesson in addition to much of Europe of places that felt like it was under control and fading only to have it become a huge problem to the health care systems again.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon Apr 26 11:32:34
I think Iraq also deserves a mention. They have the only hospital to literally blow up because of covid. I didn’t expect hospitals to blow up, but I am not surprised it was in Iraq.
jergul
large member
Mon Apr 26 11:36:50
Sammy
Its barely 7 whole months right now.

Ruggy
You hate America. As documented in many, many threads.

Disgust would be too strong a word to describe my emotional commitment.
jergul
large member
Mon Apr 26 11:52:10
The EU suing Astra-Zeneca as per Seb's request.
Seb
Member
Mon Apr 26 12:05:57
Will be interesting to see what the basis is.

From what I've seen so far it's no longer "you are preferentially and in violation of our contract diverting supply", it is "why are you not meeting the forecast".

The latter looks weak to me.


Anyway, NFP models for drug production are dead now.
Sam Adams
Member
Mon Apr 26 12:14:20
"Sammy
Its barely 7 whole months right now."


Jergul be like 12-4=7.

Dont be like jergul.
Sam Adams
Member
Mon Apr 26 12:16:04
The US in pace to get 50% fully vaxxed 7 months before jergul claimed. A slight reduction might buy you another month.
jergul
large member
Mon Apr 26 16:27:49
Sammy
In how many days will it be less than 7 whole months until January 1st?

Don't be like sammy.

The relevant metric is by how many % points I am wrong if at all.

The big variable there is if emergency use authorization will be applied on children or not.
Greedy Jew
Member
Tue Apr 27 04:02:23
Good we snagged all those vaccines before you could get them!

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-56868383

Covid-19: Israel records no daily deaths for the first time in 10 months
Nekran
Member
Tue Apr 27 05:16:34
"In how many days will it be less than 7 whole months until January 1st?"

35...?
Rugian
Member
Tue Apr 27 05:49:57
April 26:

% of US that has received at least 1 dose: 42.5% (+0.3%)

% of US fully vaccinated: 28.9% (+0.4%)
jergul
large member
Tue Apr 27 06:10:42
Nekran
Thank you. 31:0.4 = 71 days at current pace.
Sam Adams
Member
Tue Apr 27 08:51:07
Oh jergul math.

1) use wrong number to start. You wanted 21, jergul, not 31.

2) use a random symbol instead of division to imply division.

0/10.

F.

jergul
large member
Tue Apr 27 09:06:06
: is not a random symbol and 52 days. So you are terribly wrong instead of horribly wrong.

F for you.
Sam Adams
Member
Tue Apr 27 09:13:25
: is not /

Even if it was 52 days, that gets us to mid-june. I said about may 31st. You said next near.

Sams error in this case: perhaps 2 weeks. Jerguls error: 6.5 months.

Lol
jergul
large member
Tue Apr 27 09:26:42
Sammy: "off by 7 whole months"

Terribly wrong!

: is a fine sign for division.

Also, the interesting metric is how many % points I am off if any.

I was estimating peak adult vaccination expressed as a % of total population. Hence a cut-off date when anyone who wants a vaccine will have it.

I figured it will be less than 50%.

Poor dumb sammy.
Sam Adams
Member
Tue Apr 27 10:09:39

": is a fine sign for division."

The mind of jergul. Lol.
Rugian
Member
Tue Apr 27 13:50:45
April 27:

% of US that has received at least 1 dose: 42.7% (+0.2%)

% of US fully vaccinated: 29.1% (+0.2%)
Forwyn
Member
Tue Apr 27 14:05:30
State Department: 50% by May 19th 2021
Obam: 50% before May 15th 2021

May 27 should reflect 40-43%. Two looking to fall off! habebe may still sneak in.
Sam Adams
Member
Tue Apr 27 14:08:13
The US vax supply is now so robust that appointments are no longer instantly being filled.

How jealous the euros must be. Have you guys been vaxxed yet?
Forwyn
Member
Tue Apr 27 14:27:32
Oh that reminds me, I get second dose on Sunday. Glad to join the completed %, poor jergul
jergul
large member
Tue Apr 27 15:26:00
Forwyn
Your guess of 50% before november is not spectacularly different from mine, so I guess poor you too.
Sam Adams
Member
Tue Apr 27 16:36:13
You get yours yet from your "superior" norwegian health system?
jergul
large member
Tue Apr 27 16:41:49
Wife has. No rush. Superior health system has track and tracing that works. 1 person tested positive yesterday on a visiting boat.
Sam Adams
Member
Tue Apr 27 16:46:29
Fact check:

Norway has been averaging 500-1000 new cases per day.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/norway/
jergul
large member
Tue Apr 27 17:58:34
Sammy
Here as in Tromsø, dummy.

http://www...onav-new-front&utm_term=norway


What graphs look like in countries with superior health systems.

We have had some 700 odd dead in total. So about what you have per day.
BigDickNegro
Member
Wed Apr 28 06:33:32
Give my people the REAL stuff not this AZ shit, nobody wants it, nobody takes it:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-56848551

The World Health Organization (WHO) has urged African countries not to destroy Covid-19 vaccines that may have passed their expiry date.

Countries have been told to keep hold of them and wait for further guidance.

The appeal comes after Malawi and South Sudan said they would destroy more than 70,000 doses of the Oxford-AstraZeneca jab because they expired in mid-April.

But the Africa Centres for Disease Control (Africa CDC) said it had been assured the doses were safe to use.

Many vaccines can be used up to 36 months after manufacture, but because Covid-19 jabs are so new there is not enough data to prove their effectiveness over longer periods.

The final decision on whether to use expired jabs rests with national drug regulators, the BBC's health reporter in Nairobi, Rhoda Odhiambo, notes.

The rollout of coronavirus vaccines across Africa has been slow, partly because of supply issues and wider scepticism about the jab.
Sam Adams
Member
Wed Apr 28 10:46:03
"Here as in Tromsø, dummy."

No one cares about the internal arrangement of norway. Norway itself is barely large enough to register its existence.
jergul
large member
Wed Apr 28 11:31:08
I responded to you specifically asked about something 1:75000th the population of tromsø.
Sam Adams
Member
Wed Apr 28 13:25:52
Norway is the smallest unit of european population that i am willing to consider.

Consider it the planck limit for less important places.
Rugian
Member
Wed Apr 28 14:56:01
April 28:

% of US that has received at least 1 dose: 43.0% (+0.3%)

% of US fully vaccinated: 29.5% (+0.4%)
Habebe
Member
Wed Apr 28 15:46:38
So if we can vaccinate this well, why are we still waiting on a urishiol vax?
Habebe
Member
Wed Apr 28 15:51:03
The Peoples Vaccinne?

http://www...unded-by-taxpayer-dollars/amp/

When Forbes is advocating a debate on whether or not it should be humanities vaccinne, I think we should atleast look into it.

Federal labs invented the Mrna technology, with tax payer dollars. At the very least it should go up for a vote.
Sam Adams
Member
Wed Apr 28 16:07:17
I could see it partly belonging to the american taxpayer... but all of humanity? Fuck that communist nonsense.
Sam Adams
Member
Wed Apr 28 16:17:01
Now whether we distribute it freely to the world is a different question. I say we should. Because we want our international companies to do well, and we want to ensure there are fewer mutant strains. And good will.

But that tech is ours, to do with as we see fit.
jergul
large member
Wed Apr 28 18:38:50
Update. 0 infections registered in Tromsø yesterday.
Habebe
Member
Wed Apr 28 19:31:53
Sam, seems reasonable.
jergul
large member
Wed Apr 28 20:05:16
It does seem reasonable. I will send an email to the Norwegian oilfund and ask that it make the argument at Moderna's next shareholder meeting.
Habebe
Member
Wed Apr 28 20:41:14
Shush, Americans are speaking.
Seb
Member
Thu Apr 29 15:15:29
Suddenly, Sam finds he loves public ownership.
Seb
Member
Thu Apr 29 15:15:41
Rugian
Member
Thu Apr 29 15:23:33
April 29:

% of US that has received at least 1 dose: 43.3% (+0.3%)

% of US fully vaccinated: 30.0% (+0.5%)
Sam Adams
Member
Thu Apr 29 15:35:54
Vax hesitantcy is going to make us miss my may 31 prediction by a few weeks.

Ah well.

Superior american tech had enough vaxes manufactured. Good mrna ones too... not those shitty astrazenca versions.
Sam Adams
Member
Thu Apr 29 15:38:43
"Suddenly, Sam finds he loves public ownership."

Nah, vaxes being sold to the highest bidder would have been better for me and my kin. Would have gotten them a few months earlier. Still, beats being in europe, where vaxes suck and you are begging for american hell, or in asia, where they dont even exist.
Sam Adams
Member
Thu Apr 29 15:39:07
American help.
Rugian
Member
Thu Apr 29 17:34:04
"Sam Adams
Member Thu Apr 29 15:35:54
Vax hesitantcy is going to make us miss my may 31 prediction by a few weeks.

Ah well."

The administration fucked us up a bit there. Granted, it was a tough decision either way (you don't want to be perceived as papering over side effects of the vaccines), but it's likely not a coincidence that vaccination rates started declining at the exact same time that J&J was suspended.
Habebe
Member
Thu Apr 29 20:40:06
I still feel good about July.
jergul
large member
Fri Apr 30 15:35:15
http://edi...oes-us-scn-wellness/index.html

Do you really?

Off topic, but my god. The science denial is heavy.
Rugian
Member
Fri Apr 30 15:36:34
April 30:

% of US that has received at least 1 dose: 43.6% (+0.3%)

% of US fully vaccinated: 30.5% (+0.5%)
Sam Adams
Member
Fri Apr 30 16:55:52
Now that we are outproducing demand, The US will start giving vaccines to canada and mexico.

Thanks america for saving the world.

Again.
Y2A
Member
Fri Apr 30 17:08:29
100M fully vaccinated

http://apn...7dd49a70a5232dca0cf2431d4da7b3
Y2A
Member
Fri Apr 30 17:12:54
great website for covid stats:

Deaths per 1M residents by country

http://our...ountry=USA~GBR~CAN~DEU~ITA~IND
Y2A
Member
Fri Apr 30 17:22:23
deaths per capita gap with Canada is now narrowing significantly (2.06 vs 1.32). we've been above Canada since the beginning of the pandemic.
Y2A
Member
Fri Apr 30 17:23:20
just in January the gap was 10.4 vs 3.7.
Y2A
Member
Fri Apr 30 17:30:19
per the data, 2 days ago was the first time that India's new deaths per capita has exceeded the US.
Sam Adams
Member
Fri Apr 30 17:35:52
India cant count though, so take their data with a grain of salt.
Habebe
Member
Fri Apr 30 18:30:01
Y2a, I fucking love ourworldindata, they make a lot of comparisons super convenient and detailed.
Habebe
Member
Fri Apr 30 18:30:13
Y2a, I fucking love ourworldindata, they make a lot of comparisons super convenient and detailed.
Rugian
Member
Sun May 02 05:53:40
May 1:

% of US that has received at least 1 dose: 44.0% (+0.4%)

% of US fully vaccinated: 31.2% (+0.7%)
Sam Adams
Member
Sun May 02 12:01:48
Oh boy that is a big day jergul.
Seb
Member
Sun May 02 12:43:21
Sam:

EU has exported to covax counties throughout. The Biontec/phizer factories there have scaled up hugely.

I doubt you will catch up on EU exports.

Sam Adams
Member
Sun May 02 13:51:49
American funded factories producing an american vaccine under license for nations of lesser intellectual and industrial ability that could not have done it by themselves.

Thanks america for saving the world!
Seb
Member
Mon May 03 05:53:05
The Pfizer factories in Europe were funded by Germany.
Seb
Member
Mon May 03 05:53:31
Pfizer is licensed to produce the drug by Biontec, not the other way around.
Rugian
Member
Mon May 03 06:13:05
It's kind of sad to see how transparently jealous the Euros are of our vaccine rollout.

---

May 2:

% of US that has received at least 1 dose: 44.3% (+0.3%)

% of US fully vaccinated: 31.6% (+0.4%)
jergul
large member
Mon May 03 06:44:45
Ruggy
Stoling honours is a crime in your country.

Anyways, nothing particularly impressive about your roll out recently. We are easily matching and surpassing vaccinations on most days.
jergul
large member
Mon May 03 06:46:58
stealing*
Rugian
Member
Mon May 03 07:07:42
http://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

Yeah, Norway is simply not impressive. Sorry.
Sam Adams
Member
Mon May 03 08:44:57
Lol, the crying and excuses coming out of euros are hilarious.

Its like steelers fans whenever those homos play the pats.

Scoreboard.
Sam Adams
Member
Mon May 03 09:25:00
http://www...-19-vaccine-covax-who-approval

Moderna to give 500M doses to less developed locations, such as europe.


Thanks USA for saving the world again.
Rugian
Member
Mon May 03 13:56:33
Pretty large drop-off here..

----

May 3:

% of US that has received at least 1 dose: 44.4% (+0.1%)

% of US fully vaccinated: 31.8% (+0.2%)

----

Granted, data released on Mondays consistently show the worst results in any given week.

But I do think the Biden administration is dropping the ball with vaccine messaging. Between the J&J fiasco and their continued insistence that fully vaccinated people still can't return to normal interactions (thereby defeating the entire point of getting the vaccine, at least if you are young and healthy), they are doing their best to discourage people from actually getting the shot.
TheChildren
Member
Mon May 03 14:02:42
CHAAAYYNNNA!!!!!

It actually China savin da world, sorry 2 burst ur little bubble.

rofl@ give 500million doses...yea deliver them first, then we talk. right now, China already delivered 200 million doses round da world.

usa? zero.

Sam Adams
Member
Mon May 03 15:51:57
200 million china vax == 47 american vaxes.
habebe
Member
Mon May 03 16:16:48
didn't the Chinese admit theur vaccinne dont work?
TheChildren
Member
Mon May 03 16:46:26
no, stop repeatin that lie, kid.

it works better than ur crap.

China already sold 600 mill of it world wide.
habebe
Member
Mon May 03 16:59:11
BEIJING (AP) — China’s top disease control official, in a rare acknowledgement, said current vaccines offer low protection against the coronavirus and mixing them is among strategies being considered to boost their effectiveness.

http://apn...5bcb6b5710c7329823148ffbff6ef9
jergul
large member
Mon May 03 18:22:09
http://edi...d-vaccine-teens-fda/index.html

Wow. Emergency use authorization on children without committee review based on what is in fact a very small sample group (2000 odd 12-15 year olds).

Anyway, my assumption that the FDA would not give emergency use authorization to children in 2021 was wrong.

What a crazy world we live in.
Rugian
Member
Mon May 03 18:28:54
Jergul

You have to take the bad news with the good. I wasn't expecting Walensky to completely drop the ball on vaccine hesitancy, and you weren't expecting the vaccines to be safe for minor use.

habebe
Member
Mon May 03 18:50:15
And I wasn't expecting it to NOT be butter.
Sam Adams
Member
Mon May 03 20:46:05
"2000 odd 12-15 year olds"

Plus about a million 16 year olds.
Habebe
Member
Tue May 04 00:10:42
http://www...onth/ar-BB1gjWWH?ocid=BingNews


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The state is also taking other measures to increase vaccination numbers, including door-to-door campaigns, phone calls to people who pre-registered for their shot but haven't gone to their appointments and outreach with community partners.

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New Jersey's beer promotion comes less than a week after Connecticut Gov. Ned Lamont announced a similar promotion for his state. However, the Connecticut promotion doesn't limit the free beers to residents who received shots in May.

Last week, West Virginia Gov. Jim Justice announced that younger residents will receive a $100 state bond if they get their shots.

Halkitis said incentives are common in scientce, particularly among clinical trials and studies, and they do appeal to hesitant people. While New Jersey's beer program won't likely end vaccine hesitancy, he said, it will help bring the state closer to a fully vaccinated population and cut down on COVID-19 cases.
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New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy announced a "Shot and a Beer” program Monday that provides a free glass of beer at participating locations to anyone over 21 who gets their first vaccination dose this month. The plan is part of Murphy's multipronged approach to increasing the state's vaccination numbers and reach its goal of 4.7 million residents vaccinated by the end of June.

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The program is one of many initiatives taken by city and state governments to get more people vaccinated, and according to a public health expert, they are effective.

"We need that push," Dr. Perry N. Halkitis, dean of the Rutgers School of Public Health, told ABC News. "You have to find a way to motivate people. This is one way to do it."

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As of Monday, more than 7.5 million vaccine doses have been administered in New Jersey, and 3.2 million residents -- about 37% of the state's total population -- have been fully vaccinated, according to New Jersey's Health Department. Like most parts of the country, the number of new daily vaccinations has steadily declined over the last few weeks.

MORE: As COVID-19 vaccine demand slips, officials look for new ways to reach more people
As part of the "Shot and a Beer" program, the vaccinated resident can show their vaccination card to 13 participating bars and breweries in the state, and they will be rewarded with one free beer. The bars include the Hackensack Brewing Company, Gaslight Brewery and Restaurant, Battle River Brewing and more.

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Residents who received their first shot before May are not eligible, according to a spokesman for Murphy's office.

"The focus of the drive is to get as many new vaccinations as possible," Dan Bryan, a spokesperson for the governor's office, told ABC News.

Halkitis said the fact that the governor's office is focused on those who haven't received their shots is critical.

"We’re at the point where those who were already motivated got their vaccinations. We’ve now got to focus on those others," he said.

Bryan added that more locations may be added to the list of available bars in the coming weeks and that the program was done with the approval of the state Health Department. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has not given specific guidance on alcohol use immediately following a vaccine shot.

MORE: Hospitals and businesses are offering incentives to those hesitant about getting COVID-19 vaccines
The state is also taking other measures to increase vaccination numbers, including door-to-door campaigns, phone calls to people who pre-registered for their shot but haven't gone to their appointments and outreach with community partners.

A healthcare worker administers a dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine at the Atlantic County vaccination megasite in Atlantic City, New Jersey, April 8, 2021.
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New Jersey's beer promotion comes less than a week after Connecticut Gov. Ned Lamont announced a similar promotion for his state. However, the Connecticut promotion doesn't limit the free beers to residents who received shots in May.

Last week, West Virginia Gov. Jim Justice announced that younger residents will receive a $100 state bond if they get their shots.

Halkitis said incentives are common in scientce, particularly among clinical trials and studies, and they do appeal to hesitant people. While New Jersey's beer program won't likely end vaccine hesitancy, he said, it will help bring the state closer to a fully vaccinated population and cut down on COVID-19 cases.
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Shot and a beer: State offers free brews to those who get vaccinated this month
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A vaccination card will be the ticket for a free brewski in the Garden State this month.

New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy announced a "Shot and a Beer” program Monday that provides a free glass of beer at participating locations to anyone over 21 who gets their first vaccination dose this month. The plan is part of Murphy's multipronged approach to increasing the state's vaccination numbers and reach its goal of 4.7 million residents vaccinated by the end of June.

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The program is one of many initiatives taken by city and state governments to get more people vaccinated, and according to a public health expert, they are effective.

"We need that push," Dr. Perry N. Halkitis, dean of the Rutgers School of Public Health, told ABC News. "You have to find a way to motivate people. This is one way to do it."

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As of Monday, more than 7.5 million vaccine doses have been administered in New Jersey, and 3.2 million residents -- about 37% of the state's total population -- have been fully vaccinated, according to New Jersey's Health Department. Like most parts of the country, the number of new daily vaccinations has steadily declined over the last few weeks.

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As part of the "Shot and a Beer" program, the vaccinated resident can show their vaccination card to 13 participating bars and breweries in the state, and they will be rewarded with one free beer. The bars include the Hackensack Brewing Company, Gaslight Brewery and Restaurant, Battle River Brewing and more.

a glass of beer on a table: Two glasses of beer sit on a bar in this stock photo.
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Residents who received their first shot before May are not eligible, according to a spokesman for Murphy's office.

"The focus of the drive is to get as many new vaccinations as possible," Dan Bryan, a spokesperson for the governor's office, told ABC News.

Halkitis said the fact that the governor's office is focused on those who haven't received their shots is critical.

"We’re at the point where those who were already motivated got their vaccinations. We’ve now got to focus on those others," he said.

Bryan added that more locations may be added to the list of available bars in the coming weeks and that the program was done with the approval of the state Health Department. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has not given specific guidance on alcohol use immediately following a vaccine shot.

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The state is also taking other measures to increase vaccination numbers, including door-to-door campaigns, phone calls to people who pre-registered for their shot but haven't gone to their appointments and outreach with community partners.

A healthcare worker administers a dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine at the Atlantic County vaccination megasite in Atlantic City, New Jersey, April 8, 2021.
© Mark Kauzlarich/Bloomberg via Getty Images, FILE A healthcare worker administers a dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine at the Atlantic County vaccination megasite in Atlantic City, New Jersey, April 8, 2021.
New Jersey's beer promotion comes less than a week after Connecticut Gov. Ned Lamont announced a similar promotion for his state. However, the Connecticut promotion doesn't limit the free beers to residents who received shots in May.

Last week, West Virginia Gov. Jim Justice announced that younger residents will receive a $100 state bond if they get their shots.

Halkitis said incentives are common in scientce, particularly among clinical trials and studies, and they do appeal to hesitant people. While New Jersey's beer program won't likely end vaccine hesitancy, he said, it will help bring the state closer to a fully vaccinated population and cut down on COVID-19 cases.

They misspelled science.
Habebe
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Tue May 04 00:11:37
Whatevwr happened to the print option for articles?
TheChildren
Member
Tue May 04 00:44:30
"China’s top disease control official, in a rare acknowledgement,"

> whitey lies constantly being repeatedly by copin anglos. cope much?

china mixin vaccines 2 get even better superior results

we already have one of da best vaccines, kid.
Sam Adams
Member
Tue May 04 10:39:33
In terms of vaccine hesitantcy, there is good correlation between retarded rednecks and poor minority neighborhoods with lower vax rates.

But age now looks like a stronger correlation.

20 year olds are retarded and probably shouldn't be able to own guns, vote, or drive.
Habebe
Member
Tue May 04 11:13:50
Im glad states are putting in pushes to get more people vaxed.
Rugian
Member
Wed May 05 07:42:39
May 4:

% of US that has received at least 1 dose: 44.5% (+0.1%)

% of US fully vaccinated: 32.0% (+0.2%)
habebe
Member
Wed May 05 11:14:34
Canada authorizes Pfizer for 12+
Rugian
Member
Wed May 05 13:27:07
Not only that, Canada is recommending that their citizens wait to get Pfizer or Moderna if they can.

Goddamm our vaccine are kickass.
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