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tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Apr 27 16:03:30
he keeps doing stuff so often, i'll just make a 100-part thread series on it rather than dropping links into various threads

(& no his audience doesn't know he's just being a fucking asshole troll)

Tucker suggesting you harass people who wear masks in public, & call the cops & child services if you see a child wearing one while playing:
http://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1386837979453399049
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Apr 27 16:12:28
here's Tucker saying "in the interest of accuracy" he will cease referring to the white house as the Biden Administration as he "has no active role in running the US gov't"..."it's true".

http://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/1387142169257984001

then running w/ a story about Kamala Harris' book being given to migrant children (a New York Post story), to which various assholes like Ronna McDaniel & Kevin McCarthy ran w/ as her profiting, taxpayers paying for it, yadda yadda... & Tucker comparing to North Korea...

the facts: 1 copy was donated by 1 random person in California to a library used by the children... (the New York Post's entire evidence for their bullshit story was a photograph of that 1 book being seen & claiming it was being mass distributed to them based on nothing)
Habebe
Member
Tue Apr 27 16:16:42
"has no active role in running the US gov't"..."it's true".

Didn't you say the same exact thing about Trump, like repeatedly?
Sam Adams
Member
Tue Apr 27 16:32:37
"Tucker suggesting you harass people who wear masks in public, & call the cops & child services if you see a child wearing one while playing:"

Thats CNN and NYT level retardation right there.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Apr 27 17:01:15
"Didn't you say the same exact thing about Trump, like repeatedly? "

i'm not an anchor on an alleged news network, also i had evidence... Trump was frequently not on the same page as the rest of his administration, & when he spoke, it was usually quickly off-topic... so much so that R's were basically always praying he would stay on message which meant stay on teleprompter as Trump incapable of speaking on message without one

if Biden holds an event about the pandemic or infrastructure, it's about the pandemic or infrastructure, & not w/ info he's pulling out of his ass... & there are not crazy ass tweets going out that then get walked back
Sam Adams
Member
Tue Apr 27 17:01:27
Joe rogan is also a retard.
kargen
Member
Tue Apr 27 17:18:13
"i'm not an anchor on an alleged news network, also i had evidence..."

Neither is Tucker. That is why they don't let him do the news.
Habebe
Member
Tue Apr 27 17:18:28
IF Biden holds an event.

IF he comes out of the basement.

That said, IDK maybe Tucker went crazy, Ive only ever seen clips of him here and there.
Habebe
Member
Tue Apr 27 17:24:39
So I watched the clip...its weird, but not as bad as it was portrayed.

He says to ask people to politley but firmly to please take off your mask. Bad advice but not what was being portrayed.

His rant got weirder when it wad about kids being forced to wear masks on the soccer field.

It's not child abuse, but it is weird.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Apr 27 18:11:36
"That is why they don't let him do the news"

how many Fox viewers know what shows are meant to be believed as factual info? (it's extremely few shows)

saying "it's true" sounds like you're giving a fact to me & Fox viewers are extremely misinformed when interviewed so pretty sure there's a link
kargen
Member
Tue Apr 27 18:49:15
At least FOX News makes the effort. CNN and other indoctrination centers you've fallen victim to make no distinctions between talking heads and news anchors.

And I'm guessing the vast majority that watch FOX News know the difference.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Apr 27 18:50:53
"At least FOX News makes the effort"

what the fuck are you talking about? please detail this alleged effort
Habebe
Member
Tue Apr 27 19:46:01
FOX IMHO just has a different bias. They're all shit for news.

They all play tontheir base and exxagerate/stoke flames and twist the truth until its unrecognizable to chase ratings, do not watch them.for objective fact giving. If that's what you want, try Cspan or learn to read between the lines.
Habebe
Member
Tue Apr 27 19:53:50
ABC/NBC/CBS-All center left.

CNN-Less left wing and more the propaganda wing of the DNC.

FOX-Something Right, but lately confused as where they want to be onnthe spectrum.

PBS-Public broadcasting Soviet socialist Corporation.They literally will have a "two sides" segment with two democrats arguing the same point.

OAN-Trumps propaganda network.

MSNBC-CNN without any scrupples.
kargen
Member
Tue Apr 27 21:23:37
Isn't alleged except in your world. The talking head shows are separate from the news programs. When breaking news happens the talking heads are interrupted and a news anchor takes over.

CNN make no distinction between talking heads and news anchors. My theory is they have no news anchors so are unable to make a distinction.
Dukhat
Member
Tue Apr 27 21:36:03
Tucker must be running for president I guess in 2024 or 2028. Really wants the moron vote.

Keep in mind, he was the person who first broke character on Fox News and told Donald Trump to give a shit about the Coronavirus when it was clear it was getting out of control.

It's all fucking theatrics.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Apr 27 21:36:45
Hannity claims to break news

also, I saw the red meat claims on 7 different Fox shows, not sure how a viewer is supposed to realize they are making it up, they are definitely going to think it is true just like they think Biden did something to Dr Seuss
kargen
Member
Tue Apr 27 21:45:42
Not so much making it up as providing hyperbole to entertain.
I don't watch Tucker nor Hannity. There are better forms of entertainment available. I do like The Five and Gutfeld! but would never assume anything they say is pure truth or news.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Apr 27 22:14:00
"Gutfeld!"

ugh... the exclamation point is try to convince you it's funny...

i'm glad you are aware your "News" channel is just lying to you constantly... given the misinformation definitely out there, i'm certain you are in the minority
kargen
Member
Wed Apr 28 01:43:20
Ah you just can't appreciate humor when you hear it. If it isn't Trump bad it simply doesn't register with you and your delusions.

And not sure how you can make the leap to FOX News being my "news" channel with what I posted here and in the past. Actually I do know how you can make that leap. You've lost touch with reality and will never recover.

Habebe
Member
Wed Apr 28 07:00:46
I will say, Tucker is getting out of hand with this sort of talk.He is part of the problem.

I mean it's so frustrating that as a nation we spend more time working against each other as we do bettering ourselves.Like really frustrating.
Habebe
Member
Wed Apr 28 08:16:43
So fox has admitted they were wrong about the Biden/meat story.
chuck
Member
Wed Apr 28 10:07:56
> Not so much making it up as providing hyperbole to entertain.

Jesus.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Apr 28 11:43:04
"So fox has admitted they were wrong about the Biden/meat story"

well 1 of the 7+ shows did, & i would bet it's the one with lowest ratings (the one w/ host i don't know the name of :p)

& i don't expect the governors & other fraud minions out there to make note of any corrections
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Apr 28 11:50:09
maybe Fox News is like MTV... MTV started as nothing but music videos, then added some news programs & game shows & then reality shows...

maybe Fox News started w/ news (i don't recall what it was like at the start)... now just pure entertainment shows, even adding the Gutfeld! comedy show (what news outlet has a comedy show...)

i haven't watched MTV in decades so just looked up it's schedule, & appears to be mostly a show called "ridiculousness" over & over
http://www.mtv.com/tv-schedule/MTV

& Fox is just ridiculousness now too...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Apr 28 19:19:59
here’s Tucker just claiming the Feds tipped off the Lincoln Project about the Rudy raid ahead of time.... (why would that be helpful in any way...)
http://twitter.com/acyn/status/1387558531222564865
do his viewers realize he’s just making it up? I doubt it

but gotta keep up the smears of DOJ... can’t let Americans have any faith in any institution...

Tucker = traitor
Habebe
Member
Wed Apr 28 19:28:31
Now admittedly, I watch neither other than clips here and there, so I'm asking seriously as they both seem ridiculous to me.

Is Maddow and less horrible than Tucker?

I mean it just seems to me that the state of our political pundits is to just border on the ridiculous end of hyperbole to scare people for ratings, especially since Trump left.He was the reason for about 50% of all political ratings.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Apr 28 20:11:40
I haven’t watched Maddow but doubt she’s as objectionable as I don’t see the opposition posting Maddow shit near daily like Tucker manages
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Apr 28 21:21:39
here’s an extended clip with more nonsense about the Lincoln Project and generally claiming DOJ is fully politicized and can’t possibly be because the sleaze bags around Trump actually are criminals

and a stupid section noting how the FBI supposedly looked at but didn’t take the copy of Hunter Biden’s hard drive... Tucker unsure why they wouldn’t want it if it came from Russia. Well, alleged newsperson, that copy came from the repair shop not Russia, something Tucker should know... the original laptop already was taken by the FBI a very long time ago, something Tucker should know... plus warrants tend to specify what you can seize... so just bullshit to enrage the gullible cultist viewers
http://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1387572686411509760
habebe
Member
Wed Apr 28 21:31:43
I loved that Trump was criminally minded. One of our own!
kargen
Member
Wed Apr 28 23:07:59
"I haven’t watched Maddow but doubt she’s as objectionable as I don’t see the opposition posting Maddow shit near daily like Tucker manages"

That is the difference in the right and the left. The right doesn't like what you say most just change the channel and move on with their lives. Left doesn't like what you say they stock you trying to find anything that might get you canceled.

My sister watches Maddow religiously and is always sharing clips. I would put her on level with Alex Jones for pure idiocy.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Apr 28 23:15:53
"The right doesn't like what you say most just change the channel and move on with their lives"

wrong... & you know it's wrong... Fox (& the twitter minions) LOVE whenever any other media makes a mistake & makes articles out of anything minor thing they can (or even just a sentence fragment that sounds bad... or a screenshot of a 'fiery' chyron...)
kargen
Member
Wed Apr 28 23:39:04
"I haven’t watched Maddow but doubt she’s as objectionable as I don’t see the opposition posting Maddow shit near daily like Tucker manages"

That support me being correct and you being dismally wrong...again.
Sam Adams
Member
Thu Apr 29 00:26:49
Maddow is definetly high on the list of fucking retards.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Apr 29 01:22:27
it also supports that Maddow isn’t as shit as Tucker

here’s McCarthy bringing up the Biden meat BULLSHIT on Hannity tonight... let me know if Hannity refuted it... imma guess he didn’t
http://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1387610047585325056
their highest rated show...
kargen
Member
Thu Apr 29 01:49:33
"here’s McCarthy bringing up the Biden meat BULLSHIT on Hannity tonight... let me know if Hannity refuted it.."

I think you are the only one here that watches Hannity which again proves my point. You hate what he says but you track every word just to try and play gotcha.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Apr 29 02:12:56
"I think you are the only one here that watches Hannity"

did you see where i noted it's their highest rated show? that seems far more relevant than who watches it here


"try and play gotcha"
odd how so fucking easy it is...


constant. deliberate. deception.

not 'gotcha'
chuck
Member
Thu Apr 29 05:59:52
If Rachel Maddow is actually worth discussing - and not just an attempt to divert the Tucker Carlson thread - perhaps she deserves her own thread.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Apr 29 11:55:50
Rudy will be on Tucker tonight

i wonder if there will be any gotcha moments...

(& Trump was on Bartiromo... saying he won election... w/ no pushback... of course... & hyping the sham Arizona 'audit'... the whole interview another gotcha moment i guess

& if that 'audit' isn't willing to lie, then i guess he will come out and apologize, right? & not just claim it was rigged by Dems...)
kargen
Member
Thu Apr 29 12:06:13
"did you see where i noted it's their highest rated show? that seems far more relevant than who watches it here"

Did you see where you asked the forums to verify if Hannity refuted something?

"Rudy will be on Tucker tonight

i wonder if there will be any gotcha moments..."

Be sure to tune in and let us know.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Apr 29 22:10:38
white nationalist Tucker showing himself again:
http://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1387921663904272392
^ claiming the Immigration Act of 1965 was a major assault on democracy done purely to benefit the democrat party by changing voter rolls

someone claims "Republicans supported the measure 118 to 10 in the House and 24 to 3 in the Senate", i didn't verify as doesn't matter much

Women's Suffrage would be a much more massive assault on democracy by his logic... i doubt he mentioned that though...
kargen
Member
Thu Apr 29 22:16:46
yeah it was Southern Democrat racists that opposed that immigration act.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Apr 29 22:27:13
& don't forget Tucker
Y2A
Member
Thu Apr 29 22:30:49
"yeah it was Southern Democrat racists that opposed that immigration act."

Southern Democrats were racist as hell at the time, so yeah, what do you think we are going to defend them because they had a "Democrat" label at the time?

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/89-1965/s232
Y2A
Member
Thu Apr 29 22:37:08
it's like, bro I know that James Eastland (D-Mississippi) voted against the '65 immigration bill but that guy is WOKE on other issues.
Y2A
Member
Thu Apr 29 22:41:45
another D from the good ole boys club on that list lol

"[Senator John] Stennis [D-Mississippi] was a zealous supporter of racial segregation. He signed the Southern Manifesto, which called for massive resistance to the Supreme Court ruling in Brown v. Board of Education. He also voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Voting Rights Act of 1965, and the Civil Rights Act of 1968. He supported the extension of the Voting Rights Act in 1982 but voted against the establishment of Martin Luther King Jr. Day as a national holiday. He was also the trial level prosecutor of Brown v. Mississippi (1936). The transcript of the trial indicated Stennis was fully aware that the confession was obtained by subjecting three black defendants to brutal whippings and hanging by the officers."
kargen
Member
Thu Apr 29 23:03:44
"& don't forget Tucker"

We can't. You won't shut up about him.
Y2A
Member
Thu Apr 29 23:04:53
the skinhead is the unofficial spokesman of the GQP now that the clown is gone, so it's hard to blame him for that.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Apr 30 00:01:26
"You won't shut up about him."

& i just noticed that apparently Tucker is the top-rated show, not Hannity...

Hannity better step up his outrage game
Y2A
Member
Fri Apr 30 00:05:46
Hannity better drop an n-bomb somewhere to get his ratings up with the "mentally ill" mass murderer demographic.
kargen
Member
Fri Apr 30 01:24:39
With the way the Democrats and liberal news responded to Tim Scott's speech we are much more likely to hear the N-bomb dropped by one of them. The Democrats have gone full circle and will start wearing white robes and hoods any day now.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Apr 30 01:44:09
got any examples of the 'liberal media' being racist toward Scott, or just buying what your outlets claim?


i don't think Hannity can out-racist Tucker, Hannity should probably try to court a different underserved demographic, maybe complain about the 'cancel culture' against wife-beating
Cherub Cow
Member
Fri Apr 30 06:40:47
[Y2A]: "the unofficial spokesman of the GQP now that the clown is gone"

Carlson is just the next target for the Two Minutes Hate. He was selected by corporate DNC for a vitriol campaign because they've seen that — by the numbers — he has sway in the cultural sphere against their own propaganda, so they've been pushing their pundits hard to villainize and attack him. It goes without saying that low-information DNC shill John Oliver has been pushing hard against Carlson, and low-information memes from the bot farms have followed suit; Carlson's image was surging on Imgur last week.

Similar updates in the rage-propaganda sphere:
In addition to celebrations over Matt Gaetz' fall, they've also been pushing against Ted Cruz, though they lose focus there and usually only bash him when they want to talk about a conspiracy of "insurrectionists" in Congress (Anti-Cruz memes have fallen overall this month compared to March). They've started the same "domestic terrorists" rhetoric with Laura Ingraham and Sean Hannity — part of a campaign to cost them advertisers and, in the big picture, to de-legitimize non-DNC news and run an Ice-Nine smear so that people associate "insurrection" with GOP media in general (e.g., "news outlets that reported lies are responsible for the insurrection" http://imgur.com/gallery/udWSXrC ). "MurderedByAOC" stonks have fallen, and similar sub-reddits with AOC Tweet praise have fallen in the last month after she revealed herself to her low-information followers to be a careerist corporate DNC shill rather than a firebrand progressive.

Otherwise, the major focus from the bot farms has been on repairing Biden's image. Lots of recycled Trump memes have started appearing to get people to remember the anti-Trump campaigns (to make DNC followers see how much "better" Biden can be), and the latest narrative has been to get people to support Biden for more than being the "not Trump" puppet-candidate. Because the propagandists have seen success with the narrative of the "white supremacist" and "insurrectionist" absolute-others this quarter (part of the long-standing strategy of presenting an absolute enemy), in Q2 they're trying to get the tribalists to feel like not supporting Biden makes them bad people (e.g., recent Imgur bot: "If you have a problem with Joe, you probably are the problem." http://imgur.com/gallery/0LIlFKE ).
Y2A
Member
Fri Apr 30 10:00:34
"Carlson is just the next target for the Two Minutes Hate"

For the records, Orwell fought in the Spanish Civil War on the Republican (left-wing) side against Franco's fascists. This the the militia that Orwell fought under in Spain, enough with this revisionist bs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POUM
Y2A
Member
Fri Apr 30 10:02:46
*For the record....This is the militia
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Apr 30 12:19:54
i don't see defense for Tucker suggesting the only notable violence Jan 6 was the shot woman, for saying to call the cops if you see a child wearing a mask, for claiming Biden has no role in the admin & that everyone knows it, for claiming Immigration Act was a major attack on democracy & that the purpose was purely to help Democrats for voters (similar to a recent comment about Dems just trying to get replacement voters in via immigration & not trying to help "us", w/ one of his "it's true"s)... most of which was just in the past few days

so i will continue to find him awful & abusing his position on an alleged news network to misinform & keep people hating
(if you want to argue both sides do it, fine... Tucker still pure shit)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Apr 30 21:40:17
Chris Christie gives Trump an “A” as ‘president’
http://twitter.com/acyn/status/1388305650380197888
just “some things happened” at the end that overshadowed his accomplishments

so pathetic...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat May 01 12:31:07
Newsmax's groveling apology as part of their defamation settlement w/ Dominion:


"
Since Election Day, various guests, attorneys, and hosts on Newsmax have offered opinions and claims about Dr. Eric Coomer, the Director of Product Strategy and Security at Dominion Voting Systems.

Newsmax would like to clarify its coverage of Dr. Coomer and note that while Newsmax initially covered claims by President Trump’s lawyers, supporters and others that Dr. Coomer played a role in manipulating Dominion voting machines, Dominion voting software, and the final vote counts in the 2020 presidential election, Newsmax subsequently found no evidence that such allegations were true. Many of the states whose results were contested by the Trump campaign after the November 2020 election have conducted extensive recounts and audits, and each of these states certified the results as legal and final.

There are several facts that our viewers should be aware of. Newsmax has found no evidence that Dr. Coomer interfered with Dominion voting machines or voting software in any way, nor that Dr. Coomer ever claimed to have done so. Nor has Newsmax found any evidence that Dr. Coomer ever participated in any conversation with members of “Antifa,” nor that he was directly involved with any partisan political organization.

On behalf of Newsmax, we would like to apologize for any harm that our reporting of the allegations against Dr. Coomer may have caused to Dr. Coomer and his family. For more on this, please go to our website at Newsmax.com, and read “Facts About Dominion, Smartmatic You Should Know.”
"
http://www...systems/2021/04/30/id/1019671/

just reading what they now admit they have no evidence of shows what kind of total shit they were spewing

yet the source point for all the bullshit & a walking slander machine will still be appearing on 'news' networks
Cherub Cow
Member
Sun May 02 00:24:36
I'm sure that John Oliver will offer a similar apology for contributing to the perception that Dominion might be problematic ( LastWeekTonight; November 4th, 2019 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svEuG_ekNT0 ).. but then again.. maybe it's only a problem if it affects outcomes for corporate DNC?

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[CC]: "Carlon is just the next target for the Two Minutes Hate"
[Y2A]: "For the records, Orwell fought in the Spanish Civil War on the Republican (left-wing) side against Franco's fascists. This the the militia that Orwell fought under in Spain, enough with this revisionist bs."

lol
Yeah, Y2A; fine narrative, sure. In your revisionism, claim Orwell as one of DNC's own ("left-wing" of the Spanish Civil War *must* be a direct line to the current "left" of the U.S.!) and escape the accountability of the DNC using "1984" as an instruction manual for social control. That sounds eerily similar to the newspeak people who changed the Wiki definition of "fascism" to be a right-wing-only ideology — again, a technique of definition-changing designed to evade accountability for the DNC living the actual standards of fascism. (I.e., "[Sure! Orwell described this scenario and DNC media fits the bill, but I fallaciously assume that Orwell would have been on the side of the DNC despite it!]")

Here in reality, if a political news group weaponizes hate against specific opposition political figures, manipulates evidence or context or reason for hate, rallies around images of the figure for hate (e.g., one of many Carlson memes, http://imgur.com/gallery/Gg2bM5S ), and demands a shared hate from their voters as part of a specific rage cycle, that group *may* just be meeting the criteria for the Two Minutes Hate. In the vacuum of a Trump-free society, DNC media has been desperate for a new villain for the unhinged masses that they created from a diet of BigTech social media control and a depraved indifference towards their job destruction. While DNC media's ratings fell, Carlson's remained the same or grew slightly, so he is a target for the Two Minutes Hate. The DNC has been dropping quite a bit of funding into this project, but it will be interesting to see which company (DNC media or GOP media) can best afford to take a stand. Money versus money. Who will win? Money.

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[tw]: "i don't see defense for Tucker suggesting the only notable violence Jan 6 was the shot woman"
That's an appropriate point given that he was speaking in opposition to the DNC media's lies about the "deadly" "insurrection" and their double-standard-forgiveness narrative of the positivity of death, COVID-forgiveness, and mass violence in BLM riots. But the DNC sure does care about those injured Capitol officers ("Suddenly [they] discover humanity... convenient.")

[tw]: "for saying to call the cops if you see a child wearing a mask,"
That was sensationalism, but again, in context his point was that DNC media has people ignoring the evidence when it comes to young children going back to school. Arguably, it has reached a child welfare condition given that children put under the thumb of government policy in this way may suffer ill effects such as missed developmental markers and proper socialization.

[tw]: "for claiming Biden has no role in the admin & that everyone knows it"
It would definitely be a distortion to say that "everyone" knows it. Some people are so deluded that they think that Biden actually has enough mental faculties to run a country. He has continually shown himself to be a heavily managed puppet who loses his train of thought when the sundowning begins. I wonder if Russia has already done a study concerning the best time of day to get away with things because they know that Biden will be in a fog. They probably know exactly who will take over command and how long it will take.

[tw]: "for claiming Immigration Act was a major attack on democracy & that the purpose was purely to help Democrats for voters"
Sounds like a good argument. One of the DNC's racialist strategies for vote manipulations has long been to increase the number of low-information voters in cities in order to add votes on misrepresented policies. An inevitability of a *controlled* immigrant population is that the immigrants will become educated and conservative, thus opposing DNC policies. A workaround is to increase the birth rates in poor areas, control education through an emphasis on a DNC-biased political education in public schools (thus, the educated may become DNC voters), invite unskilled labor from third world nations, and degrade voting rights legislation such that younger and less educated persons with no concern for the U.S.'s founding principles will be in a position to vote for the DNC. Naturally, the DNC also favors a popular vote (perhaps we can pass that using a popular vote?), because they have laid the ground work for the manipulation. They also want 16-year-olds voting, because it fits the low-information bill. Naturally, those 16-year-olds would be protected from the "age of majority" consequences of full citizenship, such as being eligible for enlistment and recruiting (no high school waivers for enlisting 16-year-olds?). Tucker may be pointing out that the DNC has been at this game for a generation or more: degrade the Republic by empowering and multiplying the voices of the mediocre.

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[tw]: "Chris Christie gives Trump an “A” as ‘president’"

Hmm, @Acyn as a source. Acyn sits firmly in the bot politics of context-free misinformation along with Jeff Tiedrich, Robert Reich, Steven Beschloss, Jon Ossoff, and Seth Abramson. Approach their content with caution. Incidentally, an "A" may be arguable, despite the DNC's population-level media PsyOps.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun May 02 00:52:08
Acyn isn't my source, the video is my source, just like w/ Aaron Rupar who Rugian complains about (w/ never any evidence of video manipulation by either)... also it's not just the "A" that's ridiculous (& in no way arguable :p) it's how he says "some things happened" like Trump wasn't the direct cause, gotta tiptoe around the cult leader if running for the R nomination


and i disagree completely with what you believe Tucker's intent/context was (& certainly on what his viewers are perceiving) & on Immigration Act but i don't really want an antagonistic relationship so will let it go at that :p
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun May 02 13:44:54
some random bits:

from WaPo:

Debra Ell, a Republican organizer in Michigan and fervent supporter of former president Donald Trump, said she has good reason to believe the 2020 presidential election was stolen.

“I think I speak for many people in that Trump has never actually been wrong, and so we’ve learned to trust when he says something, that he’s not just going to spew something out there that’s wrong and not verified”

<& sadly she's right that she does speak for many... seems a major consequence of the Trump news networks rarely noting his constant bullshit & spinning things he actually said into something acceptable>

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some preacher attacking Biden & mocking idea of accepting election results & claiming election stolen (to cheers of course):

http://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1388916722971914240

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& a recent poll showed -70%- of R's think Biden did NOT receive enough legitimate votes to win election

i don't think any break down of which are 'Dems improperly changed rules to benefit them' (what the mature adults pretend was Trump's argument... & what they fought in court & lost on) vs those just believing what Trump & his circle put out which was continuous mass fraud claims (which they rarely fought in court, as NO evidence of it)... i suspect it's more the latter, as it's self-evident Trump has sway over the masses more than the mature adults

& the latest AZ 'audit' is only about Trump's claims, so keeping his zero-evidence bullshit undermining alive & well
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun May 02 13:52:31
i mean can you imagine actually thinking "[Trump] is not just going to spew something out there that’s wrong and not verified"?
(& there are plenty like her on twitter)

i wish i could review every piece of information she's seen or heard about him to try to comprehend it...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon May 03 13:12:35
proclamation from Lord Fraud:

"The Fraudulent Presidential Election of 2020 will be, from this day forth, known as THE BIG LIE!"

http://pbs...XoAgfXGO?format=jpg&name=large

he did same rebranding for "fake news", that was originally referring to pro-Trump bullshit

hopefully with less success this time, although there are sooo many gullible idiots out there...

so great for America to have the prior guy continuing to undermine all faith in America... as he did his entire term
Y2A
Member
Mon May 03 15:25:53
"lol
Yeah, Y2A; fine narrative, sure. In your revisionism, claim Orwell as one of DNC's own ("left-wing" of the Spanish Civil War *must* be a direct line to the current "left" of the U.S.!)"

Repeat with me now...

Orwell was a leftist member of a marxist militia in support of the Republican side in the Spanish Civil War.

Orwell's book Homage to Catalonia, describes his time in battle in Spain and blames infighting amongst marxist groups (namely that Stalinist Spanish Communist Party) for the loss to Franco's forces.

The Trotskyite political orientation of the militia (POUM) that Orwell served in and Orwell's own writing, leaves no doubt as to Orwell's beliefs at the time.

Orwell's book 1084 is an attack on the Stalinist Soviet Union from a left-wing Trotskyite perspective.

I will not ever again use PragerU style revisionist tactics, like misinterpreting 1984 or Orwell's beliefs to deceive people into having a distorted view of history and historical figures.
Y2A
Member
Mon May 03 15:26:56
*Orwell's book 1984
Y2A
Member
Mon May 03 15:27:31
Amen
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue May 04 11:25:40
here's Tucker describing Obama's PSA urging those over 16 to get vaccine as "some creepy old guy telling your children, your little kids to take medicine whose effects we do not fully understand."

(one of his many segments raising doubts)

http://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1389373008276557829
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue May 04 11:32:39
meanwhile, this on sister shit show Laura Ingraham

http://pbs...UUAMVASi?format=jpg&name=large

don't have video for it, but seems pretty clear from graphic & chyron they'll be criticizing the real media & vaccines for things not getting back to normal instead of themselves & their cultist viewers who they keep spreading doubt to (& originally led to believe it was a hoax)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed May 05 21:04:56
here’s Tucker implying the vaccine is killing heaps of people
http://twitter.com/tuckwatch/status/1390096491860172804
Sam Adams
Member
Thu May 06 11:38:48
Tucker is a godamned retard.
Rugian
Member
Thu May 06 11:50:40
Less retarded than Twitter, which deleted the video.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu May 06 12:44:41
since anyone can report to VAERS & every aspect of this pandemic politicized, no reason to trust the data

plus ~3 million Americans die every year... not surprising many of them are going to die within days of one of their shots

w/ both those issues, there is absolutely no value to Tucker's report, only harm
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu May 06 13:03:39
since video gone, he was noting how VAERS showed 3,000 some people reportedly had died after taking vaccine over a 3 month period or something & also noted that VAERS estimates only about 1% of incidents get reported (so basically the implication being vaccine has killed 300,000 without actually saying it)

he didn't explicitly say the deaths were -because- of the vaccine or the 100x issue, but it's obviously what many viewers would interpret, there's no other reason to run the story


the video clip probably exists somewhere still but not wasting my time on it :p
Y2A
Member
Thu May 06 15:13:30
"Less retarded than Twitter, which deleted the video."

Twitter isn't obligated to platform a deranged lunatic any more than a bar is obligated to cater to a loud drunk scaring patrons with talks of the illuminati REALLY controlling things.
Rugian
Member
Thu May 06 16:04:09
Y2A

As a quasi-state operator that carries out directives dictated to it by United States congressmen, Twitter arguably is obligated.

This is why Democrats are so fucking stupid. By opening their mouths and explicitly demanding that Big Tech censor conservatives, they opened up Big Tech to 1st Amendment issues. Gg morons, you played yourselves.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu May 06 16:08:39
the top 10 daily posts on Facebook are consistently from conservatives, conservatives are not being silenced, just extreme nutters
Rugian
Member
Thu May 06 16:21:40
I hope you weren't responding to me, you're on timeout for your "falsely accusing something of being worse than Jim Crow is the correct way of lying in politics" insanity.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu May 06 17:05:28
that does seem like pretty standard political hyperbole... (unlike "i won the election!" from the prior occupant)

i didn't say i approved, politicians tend to be scummy
Rugian
Member
Thu May 06 18:49:18
"Hyperbole" nothing. It was a fucking LIE. There is no way that it can be construed as anything else.

And let's see how tolerant you would be if Tucker went on his program tonight and said that "Joe Biden is worse than Joseph Stalin, the guy who murdered tens of millions of his own citizens in order to implement communism in his country." Yeah, something tells me you wouldn't be defending him here if he did that.

Do you even know what Jim Crow WAS? From your cavalier response to the comparison, I'm 100% sure the answer to that question is no.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu May 06 19:03:33
i would care less about Tucker saying "Joe Biden is worse than Joseph Stalin" than anything else i've hit Tucker on

that's a clear opinion, not deliberate deception or misinformation


also, there's a reason R's jubilantly celebrate after passing these voter laws... Jim Crow is hyperbole, but there's no doubt there's self-interest & R's taking advantage of the total fraud undermining all faith in elections
Rugian
Member
Thu May 06 19:07:29
IT IS NOT HYPERBOLE

Hyperbole is an exaggeration of something. There is NOTHING in the Georgia law that makes it comparable, even on an exaggerated basis, to the wholesale disenfranchisement (not to mention the routine lynchings and terror campaigns) over a century-long period in the South.

What. The. FUCK is wrong with you?
Rugian
Member
Thu May 06 19:11:44
And let's not forget, Biden has said on multiple occasions that the Georgia law is WORSE than Jim Crow. "Jim Crow on steroids." "Jim Eagle."

It would LITERALLY be the same thing if Donald Trump came out tomorrow and said that Democrats are committing an act WORSE than the Holocaust. That's the level of dishonesty at play here.

This is not hyperbole, this is a straight up LIE. And frankly, it's probably one of the most actually offensive things that one could say. It certainly beats out 99.9% of what Trump ever said about anything in terms of inappropriateness.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu May 06 22:25:23
i think you're more agitated than most... did people start rioting in the streets about it? pretty sure no one took it as literally as you

& it wasn't like Biden initiated the idea that it hurt black voters, i would guess just pandering to them... letting them know he's hip to their jive... he digs their rap... fo shizzle my nizzles


& if Trump said "that Democrats are committing an act WORSE than the Holocaust" i might note the insanity, but not particularly dangerous (or requiring his removal from office if he was still in it)

if he actually provided made-up bullshit details claiming some specific horrific acts were actually happening (which he probably would) THEN you have a problem
Y2A
Member
Fri May 07 11:47:46
Fox cancelling 11 yr olds but lunatics get hour long platforms lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URAGJuM68lk
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat May 08 12:19:12
reporter talking w/ 2 cultists outside a Matt Gaetz & Marjorie Taylor Greene event (they apparently lead the GQP now):

http://twitter.com/donie/status/1391044454329556992

note the woman's reason for believing election stolen (box of ballots under table, guy driving truck across state lines... is not disproven to her as she saw it on TV)

it is "horrible that we would even be in this situation to think (election stolen)"
~male cultist

well, sir... it's 1 totally obvious fucking fraud who has made you think it...


Trump, Fox News, Newsmax, OAN = traitors to nation
Cherub Cow
Member
Sun May 09 00:39:41
[Me, pointing out that Y2A was forgiving the DNC of its Orwellian policies via him saying that the DNC couldn't possible be Orwellian because Orwell's politics were vaguely similar to the DNC's if we completely ignore generational context and shifting political spheres]: "[Sure! Orwell described this scenario and DNC media fits the bill, but I fallaciously assume that Orwell would have been on the side of the DNC despite it!]"
[Y2A, doubling down]: "Orwell was a leftist member of a marxist militia in support of the Republican side in the Spanish Civil War."

I'll rephrase it for your small mind: If someone makes universal points about the problems and symptoms of doublethink, newspeak, mob mentality, totalitarianism, and Panopticism, it does not forgive even that person's own party (if it were indeed that person's own party) if that party demonstrates those very same problematic symptoms. The point of "1984" was that those symptoms represent dystopic horrors. The point was *not*, "Well, if *my* party does it (or the party most similar to the one that Orwell was in!), then it's okay."

No. That is called "interpretive tyranny": saying that a text can only mean one thing because it was said by its author, who, based on his biography, "must have therefore meant [my bad interpretation]". Incidentally, DNC media employed this same fallacious reasoning when finding "evidence" of Trump's "racism" — they presumed the racism and worked backwards, re-interpreting to make things sound "racist." You have done the same.

Another popular example was the "Starship Troopers" (1997) movie. Director Paul Verhoeven was attempting to satirize the book, but he could not help but show the robustness of some of the ideas themselves (e.g., the value of citizenship and votes). In effect, Verhoeven undermined his own personal politics with the ideas themselves. So it may be with Orwell's "1984": regardless of Orwell's personal politics, the book stands on its own. And, again, as it happens, the DNC has been guilty of quite a few of 1984's warnings.
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