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Utopia Talk / Politics / covid escaped from chinese weapons lab?
Sam Adams
Member
Mon May 03 08:52:40
http://kom...have-originated-in-chinese-lab

If true, what should the gobal punishment be? 40 trillion dollars or so?
hood
Member
Mon May 03 09:00:30
"Sinclair’s Julian Baron contributed research for this report."

Suddenly this feels like complete BS. A complete no-name org breaking news that had Sinclair contributing? Yeah, color me skeptical.
nhill
Member
Mon May 03 09:22:14
Source is probably BS, but IMO it's essentially an open secret that China purposely unleashed COVID19 on the world. Just look at the effects and who benefited the most, and where the virus was traced.
Rugian
Member
Mon May 03 09:23:48
Covid was a conspiracy by the Chinese, European and American branches of the New World Order to overthrow Trump by forcing a crisis on his administration during an election year.

Fact.
nhill
Member
Mon May 03 09:35:50
Not into the whole conspiracy shebang, but each to their own. But it seems pretty obvious that part of the purpose of COVID19 was to get Trump out of office.

And it didn't even work, they still had to cheat lol.
Dukhat
Member
Mon May 03 09:45:40
Time to buy more bitcoin to get at the liberuls!
Y2A
Member
Mon May 03 09:51:27
owning the libs matters more than living in reality.
nhill
Member
Mon May 03 10:02:36
I'm not sure what you're referring to, but I don't have a political affiliation or "leaning". Try thinking for yourself sometime, it's pretty fun!
Paramount
Member
Mon May 03 10:15:26
Most independent experts believes it came from Fort Detrick, USA. It’s a lab that makes deadly infectious diseases and biological weapons. They had a leak in 2019 and they were forced to abruptly shut it down. Since then, the US has been silent and has so far refused to cooperate, redused to be transparent, and refused to allow international inspections. The US is bascially trying to cover it up and put blame on someone else (China) instead.

”We lie, we cheat, we steal” – actual quote by Mr Pompeo, CIA

In the summer of 2019, there was also a suspicious outbreak of what they believed was a flu at elderly homes near Fort Detrick. The news media couldn’t believe it – a flu outbreak that killed people in the middle of the summer?!

The US (exclusively) also had this mysterious severe vaping lung illness that started in 2019 that killed 60 people and hospitalized another 2,700. Hint: It was the Fort Detrick-virus, a.k.a The American Virus.

The US then sent infected soldiers to Wuhan in China to compete in the military games. WUHAN!? Does it ring a bell now? The US soldiers ended up on the bottom part of competing nations. Soldiers from countries like Namibia, Bulgaria, Romania, Iran and Uzbekistan all beated the US! So why is that? Because the US soldiers were sick with the virus that they brought with them from the US. And then they infected other people in Wuhan, China, and the virus then spread. China was then doing research and investigation and when they could confirm that it was a new dangerous virus they alerted the WHO. The WHO then alerted the world, including the US who dismissed it as nonsense and as a regular cold.

Case closed. How high should the bill be that the world should send to the USA? 80 trillion dollars or so?
nhill
Member
Mon May 03 10:21:06
> Mon May 03 10:15:26
Most independent experts believes it came from Fort Detrick, USA.

Source?
Habebe
Member
Mon May 03 10:22:11
There was too much of a cover up by the Chinese and those who worked at the Wuhan lab to NOT be skeptical.

http://youtu.be/2nhcSQmopO4
Paramount
Member
Mon May 03 10:25:46
The source would be me. What I mean is, I think everyone knows that it came from Fort Detrick, but people are afraid to say it because they are afraid of repercussions.
nhill
Member
Mon May 03 10:28:49
Oh, ok. Well none of us really know shit, so your opinion counts as much as anyone else's.
Habebe
Member
Mon May 03 10:31:46
Nhill, By independent experts he means himself and The children.

I'm trying to find the interview where the WHO guy admits that his investigation amounted to askinf the CCP if it came from a lab leak.
kargen
Member
Mon May 03 10:43:33
Time line doesn't work for it to have come from Fort Detrick because of the incubation period and infection rate.

Back tracing still has it originating in China near Wuhan.
Paramount
Member
Mon May 03 10:55:46
Incubation time is between ONE DAY to 14 days.

Fort Detrick had leaks in early 2019. They shut it down in mid July.

So there’s plenty of time for the virus to spread.
Paramount
Member
Mon May 03 11:31:48
Habebe, you are linking to Joe Rogan.

"Don't listen to me! I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about most of the time." – Joe Rogan

:)
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon May 03 11:41:44
Paramount
It is the guest that is you are suppose to listen to.
habebe
Member
Mon May 03 11:41:47
Paramount, I'm linking to WHO he is interviewing.
Paramount
Member
Mon May 03 11:51:35
What are they saying?
Paramount
Member
Mon May 03 12:13:01
The anonymous guy in the video says:

"We need the most thorough, unrestrictive, unpoliticized investigation into what happened with access to all the lab records, all the samples ..."


Why? Was there an actual a lab leak in Wuhan? Or has the CIA just made it up to spread disinformation because they want to divert attention away from the leak at Fort Detrick and they want all of you to be anti-Chinese?

It is an official fact that there was a leak at Fort Detrick which is a lab that makes deadly infectious diseases and biological weapons.

Let's start there.
TheChildren
Member
Mon May 03 12:19:24
so yankees still crying those littiel baby tears 1 year after corona...oh wait, its not over becoz yall fucked up so bad its practically wont go away ever again.

lmao man up and stop crying u little cowardly fucks.

if we are talkin about compensation, whats da compensation for "spanish" flu that came from kansas. or what about iraq war.

pay up.
Habebe
Member
Mon May 03 12:25:53
So he isn't anonymous.Jaime Metzl has been involved in high ranking international positions for decades.So its atleast worth a look.

Metzl served the Clinton Administration, serving as Director for Multilateral and Humanitarian Affairs for the National Security Council,[6] working for the Clinton Administration in the United States Department of State as Senior Advisor to the Undersecretary for Public Diplomacy & Public Affairs and Information Technology and Senior Coordinator for International Public Information,[7] and was also Deputy Staff Director of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee under then Senator Joe Biden.[8]

From Wiki.

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Also the guy he talks about has admitted in an interview that his reasoning for saying it wasn't from the Wigan lab leak was based on him just asking the Chinese and they said nope, wasnt here.

The fort detrick theory has no evidence or supporters from.what I can see other than Paramount and TC.
kargen
Member
Mon May 03 12:27:45
"Incubation time is between ONE DAY to 14 days."

It is the fourteen days that gets you. The timeline doesn't fit at all.

So far all the back tracing points to Wuhan.

"A 55-year-old individual from Hubei province in China may have been the first person to have contracted COVID-19, the disease caused by the new coronavirus spreading across the globe. That case dates back to Nov. 17, 2019, according to the South China Morning Post.

That's more than a month earlier than doctors noted cases in Wuhan, China, which is in Hubei province, at the end of December 2019. At the time, authorities suspected the virus stemmed from something sold at a wet market in the city. However, it's now clear that early in what is now a pandemic, some infected people had no connection to the market. That included one of the earliest cases from Dec. 1, 2019 in an individual who had no link to that seafood market, researchers reported Jan. 20 in the journal The Lancet."
Paramount
Member
Mon May 03 12:30:44
Anonymous guy in the video: "there are tons of scientists in China who were working on these issues. Very very few of them have been interviewed. We don't have access to them and frankly I think they are afraid that if they'd speak up they be in prison or worse."

Joe "Don't listen to me" Rogan: Yeah that is the problem right.


lol

Listen kids. We don't have access to American scientists at Fort Detrick or other US government officials either. Very few, if any of them, has spoken up. Frankly, they are probably afraid to speak up because they would be in prison or worse if they did.
Paramount
Member
Mon May 03 12:33:09
"Jaime Metzl has been working for the Clinton Administration"


Enough said. lol owned
Paramount
Member
Mon May 03 12:35:05
Habebe,

"So he isn't anonymous"

He is anonymous in the video. It doesn't present him with his name.
Paramount
Member
Mon May 03 12:37:16
"Metzl was a Human Rights Officer for the United Nations Transitional Authority in Cambodia (UNTAC),[17] where he helped establish a human rights investigation and monitoring unit for Cambodia.[18]"


Most "human rights people" from the USA who are working abroad are CIA agents.
Habebe
Member
Mon May 03 12:37:45
I think the evidence speaks.for itself.

A viral disease starts in Wigan right next to a viroligy lab that specialises in CORONA viruses.

It would be like people getting sick from radiation poisoning who live right next to a nuclear plant....and then arguing that it came from elsewhere.
Paramount
Member
Mon May 03 12:41:44
"Metzl has been featured as a commentator in the American and international media, including BBC, CNN, Bloomberg, and Fox News Channel."


CNN? So he has worked for fake news media? :)

Please. I think we can dismiss this guy as someone who unreliable, lying and with possible ties to the CIA.
Habebe
Member
Mon May 03 12:48:26
Paramount, He is just one man. Plenty others suspect it. And the evidence seems very plausible.

http://www...into-origins-of-covid-19%3famp
Paramount
Member
Mon May 03 12:54:00
Kargen,

"However, it's now clear that early in what is now a pandemic, some infected people had no connection to the market. That included one of the earliest cases from Dec. 1, 2019 in an individual who had no link to that seafood market,"


Well, they found that people in Italy and France had the Corona virus in November 2019. I doubt they had a connection to the market in Wuhan either. BUT, they have probably been in contact with American tourists. Lot's of Americans travels to France and Italy.
Habebe
Member
Mon May 03 12:58:20
http://youtu.be/fSaqOHypxTI

9:30

The lead scientist who claims it was "extremely unlikely" based that solely on asking the Chinese lab if they did it.

Could you imagine if we did this with murderers?

Cop-"Excuse me sir, I see you have a bloody knife and a dead body with 30 stab woundsin it, Did you kill them?"

Suspect-"Nope, wasnt me, no need to investigate"

Cop-"Ok, will do, carry on"
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon May 03 13:06:43
You really shouldn't feed Paratroll.
Paramount
Member
Mon May 03 13:18:55
"Suspect-"Nope, wasnt me, no need to investigate"

Cop-"Ok, will do, carry on""



So if we ask the USA if they did it and if they say NO – would it also be proof that it really was them who did it, or is this type of reasoning only applicable on the Chinese?
Habebe
Member
Mon May 03 13:20:38
Paramount, By all means gonwhere the evidence points.
TheChildren
Member
Mon May 03 14:16:38
"A viral disease starts in Wigan right next to a viroligy lab that specialises in CORONA viruses. "

>> murica and fakenews is a symptom of murican delusionality and decline. they gone worshippin fantasy hopin it aint so.

it only ur fantasy that links these two things 2gether. it was never next 2 da lab in da first place.

theres 16 miles between wuhan lab and da market. thats half da distance between fort detrick and those 2 retirement homes that suffered mysterious ilness.

so if this distance is irrelevant, then how come ur distance is brushed off as irrelevant.

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