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Y2A Member	Sun May 23 21:51:45 Breaking news. Sasha Johnson BLM activist of London was shot in the head and is in critical condition. http://www...rce=Twitter#Echobox=1621804734 BLM activist Sasha Johnson in critical condition after gunshot to the head Shooting in Southwark, London came after numerous death threats, says her Taking the Initiative party Sasha Johnson, co-organiser of the Million People March and Black Lives Matter activist, Sasha Johnson, co-organiser of the Million People March and Black Lives Matter activist, on a demonstration in London last August. Sun 23 May 2021 17.00 EDT The Black Lives Matter activist Sasha Johnson is in a critical condition after sustaining a gunshot wound to her head in an incident in south London, her affiliated group, Taking the Initiative party, has announced on social media. In a statement on the group’s Facebook page, the party said that the incident happened in the early hours of Sunday and followed “numerous death threats”. The statement said: “It is with great sadness that we inform you that our own Sasha Johnson has sustained a gunshot wound to her head. She is currently hospitalised and in critical condition. The incident happened in the early hours of this morning, following numerous death threats. “Sasha has always been actively fighting for black people and the injustices that surround the black community, as well as being both a member of BLM and a member of Taking the Initiative Party’s Executive Leadership Committee. Sasha is also a mother of 3 and a strong, powerful voice for our people and our community.” Johnson was a prominent member of TTIP, which has been described as “Britain’s first Black-led political party”. She rose to prominence after last year’s BLM protests spread around the country, helping to organise marches and addressing crowds. Advertisement Turn off the gas: is America ready to embrace electric vehicles? Johnson worked in activism and community support and achieved a first-class degree in social care at Oxford Brookes University. Her page on the TTIP website said: “She has an immense passion for implementing change and justice and has been actively supporting the eradication of injustices in society by attending and leading protests.” The TTIP has asked people to “all come together and pray for Sasha, pray for her recovery and show our support to her family and loved ones”. Claudia Webbe, the Labour MP for Leicester East, wrote online: “Shocking to hear of the gunshot to the head of Sasha Johnson; All women should be safe on our streets. Wishing her a full recovery. Sending love and solidarity to her family, friends and loved ones. There are still too many guns and violent weapons damaging too many lives #BLM.” The Metropolitan police later reissued an appeal for witnesses in relation to a 27-year-old woman who is in hospital with life-threatening injuries after being shot in the early hours of Sunday. The Met said the woman was found after officers were called to reports of gunshots in Peckham, south-east London, shortly before 3am. It is believed the shooting occurred in the vicinity of a house where a party was taking place and a number of people may have been in the area. A spokesperson said that, while the investigation is at an early stage, there is nothing to suggest it was a targeted attack or that the woman had received any credible threats against her before this incident. Detectives from the Met’s specialist crime command (Trident) are leading the investigation. DCI Jimi Tele said: “This was a shocking incident that has left a young woman with very serious injuries. Our thoughts are with her family who are being provided with support at this terribly difficult time.” He said detectives are making “good progress” in hunting the attackers but they need help from the public and it is “crucial” that anyone who saw anything suspicious in the Consort Road area in the early hours of Sunday or who has heard information since then get in touch. Tele added: “Finally, I recognise that this incident will have shocked those in the local community and further afield. I would ask people to avoid speculating as to the motive or the circumstances behind it.” No arrests have so far been made.
Im better then you 2012 UP Football Champ	Sun May 23 22:03:45 I thought this fake news as she didnt even have a wiki page when she was shot.
Sam Adams Member	Sun May 23 22:53:20 70% chance suicide 29% another african/ex 1% it was actually related to her blm bullshit.
Average Ameriacn Member	Mon May 24 01:44:26 Drug deal gone wrong?
Rugian Member	Mon May 24 06:00:38 She sounds like a total piece of shit: "Leader of BLM-inspired group calls for creation of ‘race offenders’ registry By Lia Eustachewich December 30, 2020 | 8:16am A UK activist who calls herself the “Black Panther of Oxford” wants to create a “race offenders” registry that would bar alleged racists from getting work or living near communities of color. Sasha Johnson, 26, divulged the agenda for the Taking the Initiative Party, a political group in the UK that’s inspired by Black Lives Matter. The registry of racists is similar to the sex offenders registry, Johnson told the Daily Mail. “If you were to be racially abusive to someone, [the register] would question whether someone is fit enough to hold a particular job where their bias could influence another person’s life,” said Johnson, who serves as an executive committee member of TTIP and oversees activism. “A lot of racism happens at work and places of education in a micro-aggressive way,” she added. “If you exhibit an element of bias at work, you should probably receive a warning first [before later being added to the register] so people know in future that you hold these views.” The national registry would also bar alleged offenders from living near ethnic minority groups and include anyone “accused” or “charged” with a race crime. “If you live in a majority-colored neighborhood, you shouldn’t reside there because you’re a risk to those people, just like if a sex offender lived next to a school, he would be a risk to those children,” Johnson explained. She said BLM first hatched the idea of the registry and presented it to the TTIP at a conference. TTIP was formed over the summer as protests against racial inequality swept the globe following the police killing of George Floyd in Minnesota in late May. The group is also calling for reparations in the form of tax breaks for black communities. “Reparations can take the form of tax-free periods, which would give time to build back up economic stability in black communities,” said Johnson. “We have to remember that the Jewish community received reparations for the Holocaust, and no one speaks about forgetting the Holocaust.” http://nyp...r-race-offenders-registry/amp/
Paramount Member	Mon May 24 07:31:42 Why does the Right always shoot (kill) people who has a different opinion than themselves?
Habebe Member	Mon May 24 07:37:35 Probably some black guy did it.Statistically.
Habebe Member	Mon May 24 07:38:13 Plus communists are.only 3/5ths of.a.person, so morally its ok.
Sam Adams Member	Mon May 24 09:07:22 "A UK activist who calls herself the “Black Panther of Oxford” wants to create a “race offenders” registry that would bar alleged racists from getting work or living near communities of color." Shooting is justified, nuff said.
Sam Adams Member	Mon May 24 10:04:35 29% another african/ex was the correct answer. Gang members she was hanging out with started shooting at eachother. Rofl.
habebe Member	Mon May 24 10:20:06 Habebe Member Mon May 24 07:37:35 Probably some black guy did it.Statistically. Just saying....
Sam Adams Member	Mon May 24 10:50:34 Habebe wins
Sam Adams Member	Mon May 24 10:51:07 Actually we all win with scum like that getting removed from the street.
Habebe Member	Mon May 24 11:17:28 Agreed. One small step for the UK, one giant leap for mankind.
Habebe Member	Mon May 24 11:24:31 I would also like take this moment to thank the self destructive nature of violent black people for bringing us this moment.
nhill Member	Mon May 24 11:28:25 Why is it relevant that she's a BLM activist if there's no connection of the shooting to her BLM activities? ... Oh. Clickbait, yeah.
nhill Member	Mon May 24 11:41:04 That said, I hope she recovers. Don't wish death upon anyone...but this appears to be one of thousands of gang shootings that happen each day. And I'm sure not the only one where someone involved in BLM is shot. But I'll wait until the details are ironed out before passing judgment.
Habebe Member	Mon May 24 11:45:06 Well, I do feel bad as she has 3 kids.But I do think the world is probably a better place without her unless it was done by a political opponent making her into a martyr, that would be the worst outcome. As far as activism goes, the older I get the more respect I have for Jane Good all.I think any activists who actually want real change could benefit from studying her methods.
TheChildren Member	Mon May 24 12:07:32 white supremists r batshit crazies
Habebe Member	Mon May 24 14:27:45 Thats not the first time Ive heard white ppl are crazy for rationalizing the death of another human.
kargen Member	Mon May 24 17:27:59 I was under the impression that gun related crimes only happened in the United States?
Seb Member	Tue May 25 05:22:59 Nhill: " this appears to be one of thousands of gang shootings that happen each day" Shootings are very rare in the UK. Total number of crimes involving a handgun in the year ending march 2020 was around 2500. Total number of firearms crimes was around 7000. About 20 a day in a population of 66m. It was gang related (she was at a party and one gang was trying to get a member of the other that was there) - but this is actually quite unusual; so initial thought it was about her political activism is not unreasonable. After all, an MP was shot a few years ago, and she received lots of death threats from people like Habebe who thought the world would be better off without her in it because they didn't like her politics.
Seb Member	Tue May 25 05:24:14 N.b. firearms offences aren't necessarily shootings. Point is, gang shootings, shootings of why type - are comparatively rare.
nhill Member	Tue May 25 09:11:14 Seb That's fair. Thanks for the persepective.
nhill Member	Tue May 25 09:11:25 *perspective
Sam Adams Member	Tue May 25 10:33:27 "Habebe who thought the world would be better off without her in it because they didn't like her politics." Habebe is correct. Some politics can be so bad death is preferable.
Seb Member	Tue May 25 11:10:20 Sam: Advocating for your own demise is unwise Sam.
Habebe Member	Tue May 25 11:37:45 Im not the death threat sending kind of guy.I am the kind of guy who when it happened naturally, I didn't look a gift horse in the mouth. I do think the world is better off without some people in it, and thank the gods it wasn't from someone threatening her, creating a martyr. Its not just bad politics, but the ability to spread that ideology.
Seb Member	Tue May 25 13:51:43 Habebe: So basically the difference between you and a terrorist, is that the terrorist has the courage of their convictions.
Habebe Member	Tue May 25 14:24:27 Seb, I wouldn't have called for her death. But im sure you would agree the world is better off with some people. Your sebbing it up again. Watch I'll reverse Seb it. So your saying of Hitler was choking you would save him? Do you really hate Jews that much?
Sam Adams Member	Tue May 25 14:26:13 Killing the guilty is not terrorism. Duh.
Seb Member	Tue May 25 14:53:15 Habebe: It starts for thinking that world would be better off without people, not for what they do, but for what they are or what they believe. From then it is only a small matter of steps to taking action, or inaction. What, exactly, about this individual, makes you think the world is better off without her in it - so much so that it is worth three children without a mother?
Seb Member	Tue May 25 15:00:53 Hitler orchestrated mass murder - because there were people he believed that the world was better without as it happens. Like I said, if you genuinely believe the world is better off without some people - what is the reason for not killing them - other than lacking the courage of your conviction. This woman led some protests (as is her democratic right), and advocated a rather silly offenders register for racists. She doesn't appear to have broken any laws - which is something you cannot say. So, if the world is better off without her in it, is it not better off without you in it? And if so, could we not say, just have a law that made it illegal to pay, house, or provide medical treatment to ex convicts? Sam: She's guilty of what, exactly?
Sam Adams Member	Tue May 25 15:05:47 Incitement to violence, riot
Habebe Member	Tue May 25 16:18:28 "What, exactly, about this individual, makes you think the world is better off without her in it - so much so that it is worth three children without a mother?" Her propensity to spread marxist and authoritarian ideology. Hitler orchestrated murder on a mass scale, but doesn't hold a candle to marx, whos ideology has killed over 100 million people and spread immeasurable suffering. "Like I said, if you genuinely believe the world is better off without some people - what is the reason for not killing them - other than lacking the courage of your conviction." Well, for one, I don't want to go to jail. Secondly, my first approach would be to use non violent means and then only use violence in defense after all other avenies have been exhausted. But I wont shed any tears if the gods will her to no longer live anymore or in this case her violent friends kill her by accident because They are violent thugs.
Habebe Member	Tue May 25 16:23:28 "This woman led some protests (as is her democratic right), and advocated a rather silly offenders register for racists. She doesn't appear to have broken any laws - which is something you cannot say." Registration of people in the US is viewed very differently , and should be done so only with extreme caution, as history has shown us. The law is a silly thing to hold over someone when not taking into context the actual actions. My crimes are all but exonerated as PA is wiping out non violent drug charges...ooh I sold weed. Martin luther King was a repeat offender and criminal. Hitler on the other hand didnt break any major laws.He was the law
Habebe Member	Tue May 25 16:26:17 Im sure Sam has noticed your "sebing" Which is to basically sum up an entire argument to a paragraph and gaslight and or weaponized stuff.
Habebe Member	Tue May 25 16:30:50 Keep in mind Augustus Pinochet is a hero of mine. Fly commie fly...
Sam Adams Member	Tue May 25 17:16:30 Helos and commies go together so well. Briefly :)
Habebe Member	Tue May 25 18:18:57 http://www...My6QwFCSaKbz0dVXoaAo2kEALw_wcB If it wasnt from wish Id probably buy one.
habebe Member	Wed May 26 00:24:17 On 25 May, police were reported as saying that Johnson "had been shot by a group of four black men" while attending a party; wiki.... black lives matter, but not to viilent black people....
Rugian Member	Sat May 29 08:16:40 Just want to remind everyone that BBC Pidgin is still a thing. ---- Cameron Deriggs: Teenager dey face charge over Peckham shooting of Sasha Johnson 7 hours wey don pass One 18-year-old man dey face charges of conspiracy to murder over di shooting of Black Lives Matter activist Sasha Johnson. Dem shoot di 27-year-old for head for one house party for Peckham on 23 May and she dey critical condition for hospital. Cameron Deriggs, 18, from Lewisham, go appear for Westminster Magistrates' Court on Saturday. Di Metropolitan Police tok say dem don bail four other men wey dem bin arrest over di incident until late June. Detectives say dem go continue to appeal to anyone wey get information to come forward." http://www.bbc.com/pidgin/world-57291581 I'd like to thank the woke idiots at Google for making this literally the first result when searching for "Cameron Deriggs." Goddamm I need to move to DuckDuckGo already.
Y2A Member	Sat May 29 09:12:03 this is why so much of this getting offended at "woke" stuff is such bs. you are effectively attacking millions of people for who they are. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_News_Pidgin BBC News Pidgin is an online news service in West African Pidgin English that was launched by BBC World Service in 2017.[1][2][3] The news service is based in Lagos, Nigeria.[1] Pidgin is one of the most widely spoken languages in West Africa (with up to 75 million speakers in Nigeria) but it does not have a standard written form.[1]
Y2A Member	Sat May 29 09:13:06 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_African_Pidgin_English
Seb Member	Sat May 29 10:50:20 Habebe: "Her propensity to spread marxist and authoritarian ideology." Oh hear we go again with your Marxist bullshit. A far cry here from "I may disagree with what you say but defend to death your right to say it". "Hitler orchestrated murder on a mass scale, but doesn't hold a candle to marx, whos ideology has killed over 100 million people and spread immeasurable suffering." You know the same arguments can be made against capitalism with even greater numbers if you count the number of famines creates by rigid adherence to market forces. It's also bullshit because you have confused Marxism (a political theory) with Communism (a political ideology). But you are likening her to Hitler on the basis she affiliates with a global, decentralised movement, one of whole founders, claimed to be trained in Marxist political theory (as anyone who has done PPE at Oxford will have been, like our current conservative PM, who is thereof clearly a communist). When challenged, this was the best you could do for claiming BLM was Marxist. That's a bit of a fucking reach. "But I wont shed any tears if the gods will her to no longer live anymore or in this case her violent friends kill her by accident because They are violent thugs." There's no evidence she even knew her killers. I know that goes against your bigoted views. "Registration of people in the US is viewed very differently" You have a sex offenders register, that's where we got the idea from. "and should be done so only with extreme caution, as history has shown us." It is a very silly idea, but people having ideas with which we disagree doesn't mean the world is better off without them. "My crimes are all but exonerated as PA is wiping out non violent drug charges...ooh I sold weed." The law is the law - if the world is better off without people in who abide by the law but advocate for change, surely is even better off without people in it who knowingly break the law, even if the last is stupid. You attack her for espousing anti-democratic ideas, but you showed contempt for democracy when you broke the law. So tell me, why is the world better off without her in it but not without you? And then you do and praise Pinochet, a man that murdered thousands - whole arguing that having been taught political philosophy makes you tantamount to Stalin. Christ you are an idiot.
Habebe Member	Sat May 29 11:29:00 "Oh hear we go again with your Marxist bullshit." I can see your salty someone doesnt like your hero. "A far cry here from "I may disagree with what you say but defend to death your right to say it". She can say, whatever she wants, but if her self destructive group murders her, I wont shed a tear.We can offer her a Darwin award though. "You know the same arguments can be made against capitalism with even greater numbers if you count the number of famines creates by rigid adherence to market forces." Capitalism is an economic system of default.You could argue Freidmanism is a political theory and compare it if youd like. Your one of those guys who will bitch that you can't blame marx because his ideology easnt handled right when we have plenty of.real world examples that say otherwise. "It's also bullshit because you have confused Marxism (a political theory) with Communism (a political ideology)." Your dumb. Gods forbid when someones ideas are put into practice they are linked. I never likened her to Hitler.I merely said the world is better off without certain people. You brought up the morality of the law. I merely.pointed out that being lawful isn't the same.as being.moral. You lack arguments and so you go off on these silly tantrums. " The law is the law - if the world is better off without people in who abide by the law but advocate for change, surely is even better off without people in it who knowingly break the law, even if the last is stupid. " Are you advocating that its a good thing for people.who break bad laws that the world is better off with out them? Do you also enjoy the death of MLK? He was far more of.a.criminal than I was. This may be the dumbest thing you have ever posted. Lets.pretend you didn't and take a mulligan, you can do better. " And then you do and praise Pinochet, a man that murdered thousands - whole arguing that having been taught political philosophy makes you tantamount to Stalin." Sometimes you have to break a.few.eggs to make a cake. Pinochet was a net benefit for Chile. It's no coincidence they have the best economy in SA. Pinochet was one of the.only examples of a smooth transition from.dictator to a republic. I also.never said she was Stalin, but that her ideas if enacted would.cause.net harm to the world.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sat May 29 11:38:40 Habebe ” Sometimes you have to break a.few.eggs to make a cake.” This is exactly how some marxist reason. Your premise may be different from the marxist, but your road to hell is by the exact same means.
Habebe Member	Sat May 29 11:52:38 Nimatzo, There is a thin line. Is defending your nation from invasion murder? How about executing murderers? At some point you may need to defend your family, nation and way of life from enemies domestic and foreign. Pinochet is then only such success story I know of of a brutal dictator turned republic that worked. Truly a Chilean miracle that ended in the real world consequence of of a better life for the people. Its hard to argue with results.
Habebe Member	Sat May 29 12:00:38 Seb, "There's no evidence she even knew her killers. I know that goes against your bigoted views." What views of mine do you find bigoted? She was shot while attending a party.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sat May 29 12:08:46 Is the ideal of an equitable world, murder? How about removing predatory oligcharchs? At some point you may conclude the problems in your society are because of the way your society is structured and how resources are distributed. ”Its hard to argue with results.” These are actually the kind of results we should care about. It isn’t a model for emulation, if no one can explain the how and reproduce the results.
Habebe Member	Sat May 29 12:49:47 "These are actually the kind of results we should care about. It isn’t a model for emulation, if no one can explain the how and reproduce the results." What are you confused about the how?
Habebe Member	Sat May 29 14:41:26 I think that the reason it may not want to be emulated is that any dictatorship is risky* , Milton Freidman said the true Chilean miracle was that a military junta allowed and even encouraged such freedoms that eventually led to a comparativley smooth transition into a democratic republic styled government. However its all relative, compared to say NK, a Pinochet style junta would be preferred perhaps, perhaps not, im no expert.
Rugian Member	Sat May 29 15:38:00 Y2A Careful, you are reaching peak levels of wokeness here. The clue is in the name. A pidgin is, by definition, not a valid language. What's next, should newspapers start adopting writing standards that aim to mimic ALL of the verbal mistakes that non-English speakers make when they speak the language? Maybe the NYT can change "truth" to "trust" to reflect how Russian immigrants pronounce the word, or "hello" to "herro" to be more culturally sensitive to its Japanese readers. This is insane. The English language has standards which should be respected when employing the written form.
nhill Member	Sat May 29 15:40:54 West African Pidgin English originated as a language of commerce between British and African slave traders during the period of the Atlantic slave trade. Quite the conundrum for the woke crowd. However, I have faith in their incredibly practiced skill of cognitive dissonance.
Rugian Member	Sat May 29 15:42:00 Maybe CNN can release a special Hispanic pidgin edition for its website, where instead of saying something like "Hello my friend, it's a beautiful day this morning" It substitutes it out for "Yo cuz, let's jack that white fool over there and then go get another Jesus tattoo"
Seb Member	Sun May 30 13:38:01 Habebe: Oh cute, you think Marx is my hero because I'm educated enough to know who Marx was, what he espoused, the difference between marxist political theory and communism. I'm a Liberal (no, not what you think liberal means - try Mill, Smith, Locke) You keep banging those rocks together and accusing the guy with matches of being Pro devil and anti-fire.
Habebe Member	Sun May 30 14:16:58 Ok komrade.
Habebe Member	Sun May 30 14:17:40 How can someone so educated be wrong so often?
Seb Member	Sun May 30 14:24:54 Yes, you can keep calling me komrade all you like. I'm not offended by your error so much as embarrassed for you.
Habebe Member	Sun May 30 14:28:34 I can sympathize with the sentiment.
Habebe Member	Sun May 30 20:52:28 Seb, What exactly makes you think I'm bigoted?
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