Utopia Talk / Politics / ChiCom TikTok is going down

murder Member	Thu Mar 07 20:27:23 House committee unanimously supports forcing TikTok divestiture A bipartisan panel of lawmakers unanimously approved a controversial bill on Thursday that could lead to TikTok being blocked in the U.S. if it doesn’t break with Chinese parent ByteDance. If the bill becomes law, TikTok would have a little less than six months to divest from ByteDance, or be banned from apps and webhosting sites in the U.S. Lawmakers on the Energy and Commerce Committee, which greenlit the bill Thursday afternoon after months of negotiations, said the intent was not to get rid of TikTok, but to prevent a Chinese company from having access to large troves of American data. The committee voted 50-0 to advance the bill to the full House or Representatives. “It is very important that it is targeted and specific to the national security threat,” Energy and Commerce Chair Cathy McMorris Rodgers, R-Wash., said ahead of the vote. “This is not related to content. This is about the threat because of the data that has been collected.” The bill has moved quickly and garnered key support. House Speaker Mike Johnson endorsed the bill Thursday as “an important bipartisan measure to take on China, our largest geopolitical foe, which is actively undermining our economy and security.” President Joe Biden is also urging the bill’s passage. The White House worked with lawmakers from both parties on the bill and a National Security Council spokesperson said the measure was “an important and welcome step.” Past measures to limit TikTok met resistance on freedom of speech grounds. A TikTok spokesperson said in a statement that the current bill “will trample the First Amendment rights of 170 million Americans and deprive 5 million small businesses of a platform they rely on to grow and create jobs.” Groups including the American Civil Liberties Union, Computer & Communications Industry Association, and the Center for Democracy & Technology have all opposed the bill due to similar concerns about free speech. TikTok is trying to get users on board. On the app, they were greeted with a screenshot warning them that Congress was “planning a total ban of TikTok.” Several individuals said the app ask for their zip code, provided their Congress member’s name and suggested they reach out. Multiple staffers and lawmakers told CNBC their offices were flooded with calls, mostly from kids. Lawmakers said TikTok’s action was another example of how easy it is for the app to locate Americans and send out misinformation. “Today, it’s about our bill and it’s about intimidating members considering that bill,” said Rep. Mike Gallagher, R-Wi., chair of the Select Committee on the Chinese Communist Party. “But tomorrow, it could be misinformation or lies about an election, about a war, about any number of things.” http://www...orcing-tiktok-divestiture.html
TheChildren Member	Fri Mar 08 14:22:34 ooohhhh so scarry wut u gonna do, aint nobody gonna listen 2 u anyway. lol this aint ur company, u got no powas at all
murder Member	Sat Mar 09 20:44:37 MAGA is now opposed to forcing a sale or banning TikTok because Dementia Don changed his mind and no longer wants it done. MAGA is a full on clown show.
murder Member	Wed Mar 13 12:09:43 The full House passed the bill 352-65 TikTok is on the ropes! Even opposition from Trump couldn't move Republicans to oppose the bill. They voted 197-15 in favor of it. In Trump's face! :o)
obaminated Member	Wed Mar 13 13:14:43 Good. It's ruining the minds of Gen z.
obaminated Member	Wed Mar 13 23:41:29 http://www...ote-ban-platform-response.html Tiktok ceo says his company is free of Chinese influence... he is a fucking chinaman
Cherub Cow Member	Thu Mar 14 05:05:46 TikTok is just China and Israel arguing over how to propagandize the West. Looks like Israel won this one.
Cherub Cow Member	Thu Mar 14 05:15:10 "Why TikTok Needs to be Sold or Banned Before the 2024 Election" [Time Magazine; March 7th, 2024; by Australian Jew Anthony Goldbloom, CEO of Sumble] http://time.com/6836078/tiktok-sold-banned-2024-election/ "U.S. views on top opinionated Israel-Hamas TikTok hashtags" • 82.6 million TikTok views for "FreePalestine" but only • 2 million TikTok views for "IstandWithIsrael" Sources familiar with the matter and experts close to the issue say that AIPAC sunk TikTok because the global slave revolt was starting to take away Judaism's "master" status ("oppressed" status propagandized to the masses while sustaining the oppressor's hidden benefits), so they had to knock out their Chinese competition to make sure that Israel is the ultimate beneficiary of the global slave revolt. This doesn't mean that brown people won't be the heroes in your Hollywood propaganda, it just means that Jews will continue to lead the revolt, as in Dune, for instance.
Paramount Member	Thu Mar 14 13:20:48 So the jews wants to ban TikTok because more people stand with Palestine than with Apartheid Israel, and the jews won't allow it. Or, this is an attempt by the USA (american jews) to steal TikTok. TikTok is supposedly allowed to continue to operate in the US if an American company owns TikTok. Or, both of the above.
kargen Member	Thu Mar 14 18:20:02 The stupid part is no social media platform is safe. All the information is either being sold or stolen by an assortment of governments and corporations all with their own agendas. Selling Tik Toc would just mean the Chinese have to go through an extra layer of security to get all the stuff they are getting now.
obaminated Member	Thu Mar 14 19:57:02 Better than do nothing
Forwyn Member	Thu Mar 14 20:51:14 Somehow I don't think Meta's $20 million lobbying to ban TT was because of security concerns
Rugian Member	Thu Mar 14 23:51:10 Thomas Massie, offering an argument as to why the bill is bad: "The so-called TikTok ban is a trojan horse. The President will be given the power to ban WEB SITES, not just Apps. The person breaking the new law is deemed to be the U.S. (or offshore) INTERNET HOSTING SERVICE or App Store, not the “foreign adversary.”" http://twi...sie/status/1767525209064558954
Rugian Member	Thu Mar 14 23:51:50 (Supporting screenshots of the bill also provided)
murder Member	Fri Mar 15 09:11:39 "The stupid part is no social media platform is safe. All the information is either being sold or stolen by an assortment of governments and corporations all with their own agendas." I don't understand the data nonsense. Until no one can collect it, it can always be purchased or stolen, so China wouldn't have to collect it directly. The real issue is manipulation. You can't allow a hostile foreign power to mainline influence campaigns into your population.
murder Member	Fri Mar 15 09:15:04 "The person breaking the new law is deemed to be the U.S. (or offshore) INTERNET HOSTING SERVICE or App Store, not the “foreign adversary.”" The US can't tell China to take down TikTok. There'd be no way to enforce that.
Paramount Member	Fri Mar 15 14:08:56 Maybe Biden and his Demorats are not popular at TikTok either, so they have to ban it to increase Biden’s chance to win the election.
Rugian Member	Fri Mar 15 15:44:31 Except that Biden literally just joined Tiktok to connect with those sweet Gen Z voters. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68275634 It's apparently so dangerous that PoTUS himself is perfectly comfortable with using it...makes sense.
murder Member	Fri Mar 15 16:40:31 I couldn't care less what Joe Biden does. The facts remain the same.
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