Utopia Talk / Politics / Biden vs Trump: Border Security

murder Member	Thu Nov 07 05:44:25 The Biden administration took office amid heightened debate in some circles over the merits and tactics of deportations, yet it is on track to carry out as many removals and returns as the Trump administration did. The 1.1 million deportations since the beginning of fiscal year (FY) 2021 through February 2024 (the most recent data available) are on pace to match the 1.5 million deportations carried out during the four years President Donald Trump was in office. These deportations are in addition to the 3 million expulsions of migrants crossing the border irregularly that occurred under the pandemic-era Title 42 order between March 2020 and May 2023—the vast majority of which occurred under the Biden administration. Combining deportations with expulsions and other actions to block migrants without permission to enter the United States, the Biden administration’s nearly 4.4 million repatriations are already more than any single presidential term since the George W. Bush administration (5 million in its second term). In the 12 months after Title 42 ended, the Biden administration ramped up deportations under the standard U.S. immigration framework, Title 8, and removed or returned 775,000 unauthorized migrants—more than in any previous fiscal year since 2010. From May 2023 through March 2024, 316,000 migrants were processed via expedited removal, more than in any prior full fiscal year. And for the first time since FY 2010, in FY 2023 more migrants were returned directly across the border, mostly to Mexico, than were removed from the U.S. interior. Whereas President Barack Obama was labeled by some as the “deporter in chief,” this new trend may earn President Joe Biden the title of “returner in chief.” Notably, authorities have deported migrants to more than 170 countries during the current administration, which may be the most ever. http://www...ticle/biden-deportation-record
murder Member	Thu Nov 07 05:45:34 FYI Obama also deported and returned more migrants that Donald Trump did in his first term. http://ohss.dhs.gov/topics/immigration/yearbook/2019/table39
Habebe Member	Thu Nov 07 06:27:56 Your cherry picking. Because lets be blunt, crossings were down under trump for a variety of reasons. 1. Yes, the one thing that partly boosted his border security was actually covid, so in a sense, a happy accident sort of. 2. Remain in Mexico worked. 3.Impressions and rhetoric, dems will bitch and complain about hos rhetoric and such, but, it did discourage immigrants, in stark contrast to Biden Harris vibes.
Turtle Crawler Admin	Thu Nov 07 11:42:45 The key to immigration control was never deporting people through the court process It was always 1) keep them out 2) make it so they can't work so 3) they self deport Letting in a bunch of people so you can pump up your title 8 numbers isn't going to cut it.
murder Member	Thu Nov 07 13:07:04 So you're saying that there were no illegal immigrants in the country when Trump left office?
Habebe Member	Thu Nov 07 17:30:38 Murder, No, we are saying your grasping at straws.
Habebe Member	Thu Nov 07 17:30:38 Murder, No, we are saying your grasping at straws.
Habebe Member	Thu Nov 07 17:30:38 Murder, No, we are saying your grasping at straws.
Dukhat Member	Thu Nov 07 19:42:53 Biden should've left the stay-in-mexico program in place. It was absolutely stupid to not close the border right away when voters were clearly pointing it out as a big issue.
murder Member	Fri Nov 08 05:14:57 If only immigrants would stop coming, there would be no racism in the United States.
Paramount Member	Fri Nov 08 06:37:28 The USA needs to put more sanctions on the countries in South America so that people there learn not come to the USA.
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