Utopia Talk / Politics / Greenland are MAGA

Paramount Member	Tue Jan 07 02:04:36 Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump I am hearing that the people of Greenland are “MAGA.” My son, Don Jr, and various representatives, will be traveling there to visit some of the most magnificent areas and sights. Greenland is an incredible place, and the people will benefit tremendously if, and when, it becomes part of our Nation. We will protect it, and cherish it, from a very vicious outside World. MAKE GREENLAND GREAT AGAIN! http://tru...Trump/posts/113783930691285775
Rugian Member	Tue Jan 07 06:35:36 Boy he's going to be in for a rude awakening when he realizes that Greenlanders are largely suicidal squaw alcoholics. My guess is that he spends all of 15 minutes in the capital before deciding that the whole place is just a frozen shithole* and immediately loses interest. * They do have a pretty cool-looking golf course though: http://en.nuukgolf.com/banen-1
jergul large member	Tue Jan 07 07:55:39 My favourite golf course concept is not far from Tromsø. Some of the bunkers are real bunkers left over from wwii.
Rugian Member	Tue Jan 07 12:25:36 Trump refuses to rule out using military force to take Greenland and Panama Canal “We need them for economic security,” says the U.S. president-elect." http://www...-force-greenland-panama-canal/
patom Member	Tue Jan 07 12:33:39 Donald Jr. has shown up and declared that we were going to treat the Greenlanders well. Unlimited supply of paper towels. Closely followed by Health Insurance salesmen for them to start paying for their health care. http://www...rives-greenland-132110315.html
Paramount Member	Tue Jan 07 13:04:51 I heard Mr Trump say that he doesn’t know if Denmark has any legal rights to Greenland, but if they do they have got to give it up because the USA needs Greenland for national security.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Tue Jan 07 13:12:31 I feel like he is trying too hard to out-Trump himself.
murder Member	Tue Jan 07 13:14:02 European countries need to go nuclear. And then use them.
Rugian Member	Tue Jan 07 13:19:41 He just wants a legacy - something to be remembered for in the history books that's better than "he signed a tax bill and said crazy things on Twitter." The first man to substantially expand the US in over a century? That would do it.
murder Member	Tue Jan 07 13:56:29 No need for any of that. He's going to bring peace to Israel. He has to follow the script.
Paramount Member	Tue Jan 07 14:07:10 ”European countries need to go nuclear. And then use them.” We put our trust in Russia.
obaminated Member	Tue Jan 07 14:11:31 Everything has a price.
Sam Adams Member	Tue Jan 07 14:56:11 "jergul large member Tue Jan 07 07:55:39 My favourite golf course concept is not far from Tromsø. Some of the bunkers are real bunkers left over from wwii. " Who built those bunkers?
jergul large member	Tue Jan 07 15:24:29 The Todt Organization.
murder Member	Tue Jan 07 17:28:25 "Everything has a price." The GOP would know.
Rugian Member	Tue Jan 07 18:24:10 Yes, the party of business would. As opposed to the Democrats, whose economic knowledge is so extensive they spent a good two years buying into the insanity of MMM and insisting that you can print infinite money without causing inflation.
Rugian Member	Tue Jan 07 18:24:44 *MMT rather
murder Member	Wed Jan 08 05:10:20 "As opposed to the Democrats, whose economic knowledge is so extensive they spent a good two years buying into the insanity of MMM and insisting that you can print infinite money without causing inflation." Says the party that is currently threatening to invade Mexico, Canada, Greenland, and Panama. Apparently having developed amnesia about how expensive wars and occupations are. Except these wouldn't be 20 year occupations, they'd be permanent occupations. The great thing about MAGA is they are complete blank slates. Whatever Trump farts out of his mouth is what they support in that moment. If he does a 180, they do a 180. If moron decides to follow through and invade Canada, they will support it ... and they would support the draft required to grow the army large enough to occupy such a massive territory. You will sacrifice your children to the great orange maw just like muslims sacrifice theirs to allah. But it's totally not a cult.
murder Member	Wed Jan 08 05:17:49 btw I'd like to take a moment to point out how the same "liberal media" that lost it's shit because Joe Biden gets confused, is treating Demented Don undermining or destroying every US alliance, and threatening to launch multiple wars of aggression like it's all very normal. The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the American people that the corporate media was left-wing. -
patom Member	Wed Jan 08 07:55:12 It'll be very interesting to see the reaction of the Canadians who bitch and moan about their health care system find out how much it costs in the US. Don't know what Panama has for a health care system. Greenlanders I presume are covered like the Danes. Can they afford our Insurance rates? I'm pretty sure that they won't be happy with the cuts in benefits that Canada doles out to it's citizens. I think Trusk has watched the performance of Yul Brenner as the Pharoah in the "Ten Commandments". Probably likes to think he can declare "So let it be said. So let it be done".
obaminated Member	Wed Jan 08 11:24:36 Trumps logic is sound. He wants to secure the western hemisphere and not allow China to start taking over. Greenland, surrender.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 08 11:30:42 so you welcome him turning our country to not just neutral but evil
obaminated Member	Wed Jan 08 11:47:58 You want a world controlled by China?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 08 12:14:15 at what point did you determine Greenland was absolutely necessary to our national security?
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 08 13:03:52 It's not an absolute necessity but it would be a significant asset. Particularly if/when the Artic Ocean becomes more accessible for travel and resource extraction. Previous US presidents similarly recognized its value and tried to acquire it. Hell, we basically occupied the place during WWII. And who do you think poses the largest strategic threat in the Arctic? That's right, your favorite boogeyman Russia: http://www...e-context-war-against-ukraine/ At the end of the day, we aren't invading Greenland. But it would be nice to have it.
obaminated Member	Wed Jan 08 13:21:49 China is clearly making moves to secure a firm control on being the world super power 20 years from now. We need to counter it.
obaminated Member	Wed Jan 08 13:23:43 I think China is the bigger threat than Russia. Russia is ruining itself in Ukraine. But China is purposely buying huge plots of land in America. Purposely investing in Africa. They are the threat.
Seb Member	Wed Jan 08 13:33:18 Rugian: I thought global warming was a fake hoax? Obaminated: By turning allies that would support you into opponents that actively seek to contain you?
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 08 13:47:26 Seb Manmade global warming is. Natural global warming is certainly real. The Sun's luminosity is increasing every day after all.
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 08 13:51:26 Incidentally. Even if humanity was to treat Earth absolutely perfectly from this day forward, we only have a maximum of ~100 million years before the Sun turns the planet virtually uninhabitable. It's why we need humanity's best geniuses like Elon Musk to lead our species into space. Human colonization of the Milky Way is ultimately a necessity for our ultra-long term survival.
Paramount Member	Wed Jan 08 13:52:52 I don’t now what rights the US thinks it has, but if they have any they should give them up.
Paramount Member	Wed Jan 08 13:53:51 So, investing in Africa is a threat. Robbing Africa is not.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 08 14:05:30 somehow our leader: " For purposes of National Security and Freedom throughout the World, the United States of America feels that the ownership and control of Greenland is an absolute necessity. " (w/ him not ruling out using force to acquire) that is fucking crazy (but i know it can't ever be recognized when it's something said by him) you have to always assume he means other words... also i guarantee he'll declare victory no matter what happens (on any issue)
murder Member	Wed Jan 08 14:14:51 "Trumps logic is sound. He wants to secure the western hemisphere and not allow China to start taking over. Greenland, surrender." It's funny that this makes sense to you. Up until now the US has had nothing to fear on it's borders. Our borders were so secure that you morons on the right had to make up stories about invasions by millions of people in search of jobs and a better life. Spoiler alert: The quickest path to waking up to Chinese bases in Canada and Mexico is to make them feel unsafe. The entire right has lost their minds ... or rather they've turned them over to their orange lord. -
TheChildren Member	Wed Jan 08 14:25:10 attempted land grabs that wut we r seeing minerals and resources r lackin in da yankeeland so they need that shit from canada and greenland for da retardinated china is just da xcuse and yes u r alrdy livin in world where china is da sole supapower lol not 20 years from now. righttt now
TheChildren Member	Wed Jan 08 14:41:33 some reddit moron: "what da fuck is going on" ______________ hello moron, allow me 2 xplain this shit 2 u. wut is going on, teenage idiot, is mask off. when a colonial country is mask off
Seb Member	Wed Jan 08 14:54:56 Rugian: Actually we are probably at a solar maximum so no. And it's very clear that short term global temperatures over the last 100 years isn't driven by luminosity changes. Might as well be claiming the moon is made of cheese.
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 08 15:08:08 Seb Solar maximum is a measure of solar activity, not luminosity. Luminosity is a bit like entropy. It's only going in one direction. http://en....:Solar_evolution_(English).svg
obaminated Member	Wed Jan 08 16:10:58 Wow. Seb legit doesn't know what he is talking about. That was impressive.
obaminated Member	Wed Jan 08 16:12:32 Also I love that no one dealt with the simple question. China is making moves to be the world super power in the relative future. Do you want China or the united states to run the world?
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 08 16:16:24 Obaminated That's the problem. Half of them would prefer to live under Chinese-style governence. But obviously they can't openly admit that, so good luck getting an honest answer from them.
murder Member	Wed Jan 08 16:21:08 The US has been running the world. It's you and your moron lord that are trying to destroy the global order and hand China control.
jergul large member	Wed Jan 08 17:03:45 Ruggy This is what our ancestors looked like 66 million years ago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purgatorius Nothing human will colonize the milky way.
jergul large member	Wed Jan 08 17:09:34 Also, it will take a billion years for the planet to become uninhabitable.
obaminated Member	Wed Jan 08 22:56:06 They still refuse to state their position.
TheChildren Member	Wed Jan 08 23:44:29 oh lets see china rise: -800 mill lifted from poverty in china alone - BILLIONS lifted from povery outside of china - billions benefitted from cheaper technologies and medicine and goods from china - name 1 measurement, whether it is life expectancy, livin standard, readin standard, medical health, every measure has skyrocketed to top tier !! - countries benefitin from "china" = global south, australia, canada, europe, yes even u america benefitted for 40 years keeping ur inflation down and record profits for ur peoples and citizens - lifts and benefits all nations round da world as billions benefit from china - builds infrastructures round da world for cheaper and faster - ends debt cycles and debt slavery for countries round da world from slavery masters such as "worldly institutions" which r in reality running ur agendas china rise will end ur crooklonialism policies da world will be much more freeer and fairer since multilaterialsm means u cant force ur bs on others oh yeas, china "sooo baaad" rofl wut da fuck u even talking about. are u confused or wut, them facts speak 4 themselves
TheChildren Member	Wed Jan 08 23:48:53 80% of world povery reduction for da last 30 years = thx 2 china. literally it literally is becoz china economic polcies benefited folks round da world. china literally CARRIED all da worldy povery reduction literally quite frikkin literally butbutbut chuaaayna soo bad u know u have all those appliances in ur house, toys and shit and all, ONLY coz china made it affordable 4 everyone without china, u wuld quite literally not own half da clothes in ur room. how many computers did u have 4 da last 30 years? without china, u wuld hav 60% less. OWNED OWNED OWNED!!
TheChildren Member	Wed Jan 08 23:52:55 how dollars keep africa, asian and latin american countries 4ever in debt slavery http://www.youtube.com/shorts/aeVk5I3l3dc ur system is designed 2 keep them enslaved so u can own them and shit
murder Member	Thu Jan 09 06:27:59 "They still refuse to state their position." And they won't produce their birth certificate on demand because I'm not Barack Obama, and you're not white. -
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