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murder
Member
Sat Apr 05 20:25:06
BREAKING: Jim Cramer has said that Monday will be Black Monday of 1987, where the market collapsed 23% in a single day.

http://www.threads.net/@unusualwhales/post/DIFDdBpzF8Q
murder
Member
Sat Apr 05 20:26:20

Jim Cramer single-handedly saving the Trump administration and the GOP majority in the 2026 midterms.

Rugian
Member
Sat Apr 05 21:08:16
Buying 200 0DTE $575 SPY calls. Thanks Jim!
Sam Adams
Member
Sat Apr 05 21:42:42
Rofl
Sam Adams
Member
Sat Apr 05 21:45:06
Like people actually track this. Inverse cramer is the best stock market guide out there. Better than pelosi and all her corruption even. Way better than buffet.

At this point its so locked in its probably a self fulfilling prophecy to some extent.
Dukhat
Member
Sat Apr 05 23:42:30
I already moved a majority of my funds into Berkshire and money market funds. Buffett and his team can manage the Trump chaos for me.
murder
Member
Mon Apr 07 05:30:03

The opening bell should be interesting again today. Futures are down and the markets around the world are taking another plunge.

murder
Member
Mon Apr 07 05:32:21

Even crypto crap is getting hammered.

Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon Apr 07 05:52:32
There is no easy way of saying this, but I am way too deep into Tesla stock, it is what it is. Every day I check the price and the price has plummeted even further. I can't take this anymore. I NEED THE PRICE TO GO UP! Can Americans do something????
williamthebastard
Member
Mon Apr 07 05:53:33
lol
TheChildren
Member
Mon Apr 07 05:57:05
HUUHHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAA

who da fuck buys elon...

is u elondickrider?
jergul
large member
Mon Apr 07 06:07:16
Nimi
I trust you entered early and systematically (like say 1000 a month or whatever). Vexing to lose the highpoint, but year on year still sees you up 39% of what you had then. Not bad.
williamthebastard
Member
Mon Apr 07 06:10:00
One must remember that empathy is the downfall of western civilization, so lol
williamthebastard
Member
Mon Apr 07 06:26:04
"Is Tesla's stock a sell?
Tesla's stock is outrageously valued. Given its high valuation, struggling auto business, and autonomous driving challenges, I think the stock could have a lot of potential further downside from here."

What Nasdaq.com was saying just before the tariffs made everything a lot worse.

williamthebastard
Member
Mon Apr 07 06:36:09

Market Summary
>
Tesla Inc
239.43 USD
−27.85 (10.42%)today
Closed: Apr 7, 7:33 AM EDT • Disclaimer
Pre-market 225.85 −13.58 (5.67%)

I love how Google shows in real time Pre-market 225.85 drop to Pre-market 225.32 in about 3 minutes :D
williamthebastard
Member
Mon Apr 07 06:37:17
224.45 1 minute later
williamthebastard
Member
Mon Apr 07 06:38:21
223.67 twenty seconds later. Holy hell lol
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon Apr 07 06:59:11
I just wanted WTB to jizz his pants. That is a classical meme that I borrowed.

I have never owned a single Tesla stock.

I am on record as highly skeptical of EVs as a concept and solution.

If I ever bought a strict EV I would own a Polestar.

Fucking retard lololol :)
murder
Member
Mon Apr 07 07:02:10

"There is no easy way of saying this, but I am way too deep into Tesla stock, it is what it is. Every day I check the price and the price has plummeted even further. I can't take this anymore. I NEED THE PRICE TO GO UP! Can Americans do something????"

I hope you're just joking.

murder
Member
Mon Apr 07 07:03:58

"I have never owned a single Tesla stock."

I'm glad to hear that. Tesla is ridiculously overvalued by any measure.

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williamthebastard
Member
Mon Apr 07 07:07:39
Theyre almost as overvalued as Elons brain
Seb
Member
Mon Apr 07 07:09:24
Nim, you should worry more that the idea you were heavily invested in Tesla seems bang on plausible!
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon Apr 07 07:16:23
Only to people who I think are complete morons. Murder is a borderline case and I can live with that.

You could almost say that it was a test and the results were no surprise. I only regret in not letting it go on for longer, but the obvious moron it was intended for was WTB.
murder
Member
Mon Apr 07 07:54:43

"Only to people who I think are complete morons. Murder is a borderline case and I can live with that."

Bro, you were doing the shitcoin thing. Of course I'd believe that you were neck deep in Tesla.

jergul
large member
Mon Apr 07 08:10:52
Cutie, are you definitely the kind of guy that would invest for emotional reasons? Yes you are. Tesla stocks to help fund Musk and his visions? Absolutely. In addition to what murder said <3.

Rugian
Member
Mon Apr 07 08:21:34
Zero percent is not enough!

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Peter Navarro says Vietnam's 0% tariff offer is not enough: 'It's the non-tariff cheating that matters'

Published Mon, Apr 7 2025 8:52 AM EDT
Updated 11 Min Ago

Trump trade adviser Peter Navarro said Monday that an offer by Vietnam to eliminate tariffs on U.S. imports would not be enough for the administration to lift its new levies announced last week.

"Let's take Vietnam. When they come to us and say 'we'll go to zero tariffs,' that means nothing to us because it's the non-tariff cheating that matters," Navarro said on CNBC's "Squawk Box."

The examples of non-tariff "cheating" cited by Navarro included Chinese products routed through Vietnam, intellectual property theft and a value added tax.

The comments from Navarro come after President Donald Trump said in a Truth Social post on Friday that To Lam, General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam, had offered to cut tariffs on U.S. products to zero. Later in the Monday interview, Navarro revised his statement to say that the offer of zero tariffs would be a "small first start."

http://www...iff-cheating-that-matters.html
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon Apr 07 08:33:28
Thank you murder for clarifying, I can stop feeling ambivalent.

What can I say guys, I deeply regret doubling my money on crypto and learning to trade in the processes?

Proper risk management removes emotions from the equations entirely. Learn2play.
williamthebastard
Member
Mon Apr 07 08:45:35
Tesla Boi is probably lying
Rugian
Member
Mon Apr 07 08:46:17
We'll never know though.
Rugian
Member
Mon Apr 07 08:46:59
Anyway, S&P is officially in bear territory.

I wish I had had the balls to short SPY on Wednesday.
Rugian
Member
Mon Apr 07 08:49:50
Bill Ackman and Jamie Dimon both came out with some pretty negative commentary this morning.

We are so screwed.
Rugian
Member
Mon Apr 07 08:51:00
(I'm still buying the dip though)
murder
Member
Mon Apr 07 08:57:21

Well at least there's no sign of a complete collapse like Cramer predicted.

Not that he's ever right about anything.

williamthebastard
Member
Mon Apr 07 09:01:07
Billionaires are buying. Probably this is mainly about transferring average peoples money to billionaires by wrecking their stocks and getting them to sell at a loss to billionaires
murder
Member
Mon Apr 07 09:03:29

"Billionaires are buying."

Are you sure it's not just Trump's new "sovereign wealth fund" in action?

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williamthebastard
Member
Mon Apr 07 09:09:38
Well, I saw that the billionaire owner of Swedish H&M is buying up all over the place.

This psychologist thinks some evangelist Magats think Trump wrecking the economy is a good thing despite it hurting them, because it fullfils the end of times prophecy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK6VT9kJYR4
williamthebastard
Member
Mon Apr 07 09:11:11
"The last president before the Rapture" (rapture meaning something wonderful to normal people but the end of humanity to these dangerous lunatics)
williamthebastard
Member
Mon Apr 07 09:12:51
That would mean that the more humanity is harmed, the greater cause for celebration. These people are so horrific
murder
Member
Mon Apr 07 09:24:53

"This psychologist thinks some evangelist Magats think Trump wrecking the economy is a good thing despite it hurting them, because it fullfils the end of times prophecy."

There's definitely that group. I'd say that they voted for Trump because they believe he is the antichrist ... and Jesus isn't scheduled to return until the antichrist has taken over the world.

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williamthebastard
Member
Mon Apr 07 09:28:04
He also points out that it matches the goal of their accelerationist Elons and tech bros, which is to get us all killed so that they can start off fresh and create a new human race from their superior genes. Hitler had nothing on these guys.
Rugian
Member
Mon Apr 07 10:39:41
http://www...4acbf0e921d282f2e490c8259ef703
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon Apr 07 11:03:11
Rugian
You can’t know definitely, but I was very honest about all the money I lost in hacks and scams on UP. I mean I didn’t double my networth, I doubled 14 000 USD. I did learn trading, risk management and emotional detachment. Who told you about uranium? I did. :-)

My problem is still that I am too conservative, I did not get on the last crypto bullrun.
jergul
large member
Mon Apr 07 11:08:40
Ruggy
Feel free to insert the "lol" in a new post.
Rugian
Member
Mon Apr 07 11:11:36
Lol
jergul
large member
Mon Apr 07 11:12:53
Cutie, you have not doubled anything until you realize the profit in highly speculative investments <3.

Besides, your true investment is your house, along with your vested interest in societal stability that will allow for a pension is fewer decades that you would like to think.
Rugian
Member
Mon Apr 07 11:15:26
Nim

Nothing wrong with being too "conservative."

If you're pulling an average 8% return over the long term, be happy. Chasing gains in the latest BTC run or following TSLA to the moon is more stressful than it's worth, even if you manage to time your entry and exit right and don't lose money.

So fine. I won't retire a billionaire. But I'll have enough.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon Apr 07 12:21:30
Dimgul
The lady doth something something you fucking retard. I cashed out in 2022 and 2023, it was all public on UP back with Nhill.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon Apr 07 12:39:53
Rugian
My investments are now food, ammo and gold. What I call paleo-investing. Nobody is as conservative as I am.

I’m not even kidding. I think k my household can survive without any food for a year. We have our own water, and always stocked up on fire food.

I told ya’ll I went full redneck. I also became a gun nut and a doomsday prepper.
jergul
large member
Tue Apr 08 06:35:36
Cutie, you should add course salt to your "investments". 500 grams for every kg of frozen food you may have to emergency conserve if the electricity goes. Salt keeps forever for as long as you can store it dry and oderless <3.
murder
Member
Tue Apr 08 06:47:10

It looks like the DOW will open up ~ 1000 points today.

murder
Member
Tue Apr 08 06:47:48

Jim Cramer is undefeated.

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Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue Apr 08 07:31:03
Jergul
It's part of the food. Salt is actually my wife's department.

My favorite is honey. We have lots of honey.
williamthebastard
Member
Tue Apr 08 08:01:33
Yes, Ive read somewhere that salt helps against swelling and bruises resulting from physical trauma
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue Apr 08 10:01:06
Was that from your nazi gang days when you beat people up or from the beatings you took from you father?
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue Apr 08 10:01:51
Wtb is like American history X, but with a sad ending. He survives.
williamthebastard
Member
Tue Apr 08 13:28:02
Ah, right, honey can accelerate wound healing, decrease bruising, decrease inflammation. I suppose that would be more your department afterwards while telling her you only beat her out of love
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue Apr 08 14:05:42
Did your father let his buddies cuddle with you as well?
williamthebastard
Member
Tue Apr 08 14:18:14
So Maga caps and Trump guitars and any other product with the Trump brand are all going to get hit with 100% tariffs tonight lol

williamthebastard
Member
Tue Apr 08 14:33:07
We’ve now moved firmly into Incel Bois world of expert psychology where Trump needs to show he has a larger phallus than any other living man, because other men unconsciously sense when someone has a larger penis than them and instinctively bow down in fear and subjugate themselves to the more dominant sexual organ. Darwin proved all this years ago. All Trump is doing is giving an expert class in how to be a winner and an Alpha Male
williamthebastard
Member
Tue Apr 08 14:42:18
This is why empathy is so suicidal. Empathy is the owner of the less weighty penis saying, ”Please dont frighten and dominate me with your pounding, veiny manhood!” If the Alpha Male with the throbbing pound of pure muscle empathizes with the Beta Male’s lesser girth, the entire unconscious balance of power is disturbed and risks crashing to the ground and bringing us all with it. Just check out Jordan Peterson, he proved all this years ago.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue Apr 08 14:46:37
You yapp about Trump nd Musk, but not a word about how Swedish tax payers and pension funds were SCAMMED by billionaires in the Northvoöt bankruptcy. Facilitated by Social democrats and Greens changing the law so that pensionfunds could throw away money on my risky ”green” companies.

We have our scammers to worry about, but dumb fuck leftards like you have their entire head space occupied by Elon Musk.

williamthebastard
Member
Tue Apr 08 14:49:27
And dont even get me started on Andrew Tate. His penis is so virile it cannot be contained and literally attacks passers-by. Beta Males with their minor organs are of course, terrified and beg for mercy. If he grants them mercy, the inferior penii are victorious over the superior penii, and thus society becomes ruled by subordinate genitalia, leading to the end of macho mankind
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue Apr 08 14:54:59
Oh please yes enumerate all the people living rent free in your head who havs ZERO impact and influence on our lives. Rage into the wind and be useless.
murder
Member
Tue Apr 08 18:49:16

"It looks like the DOW will open up ~ 1000 points today."

-0.84% for the DOW today
-1.57% for the S&P
-2.15% for the Nasdaq

Something like a 2000 point swing for the DOW today from high to low. Maybe tomorrow will be better.

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jergul
large member
Wed Apr 09 03:18:24
Tomorrow will not be better. Forget the tradewar. Fundamentals are not there either. P/E is still far from reaching its historic 16,7.
williamthebastard
Member
Thu Apr 10 15:47:20
Ah, right, Tate stopped pretending to be a christian a year or 2 ago or something and started pretending to be a muslim instead, so now Incel Boi hates him as part of his Iranian christian religious war that he brought with him from Iran. He was quite pleased with him beating women when he belonged to the same religious football club, of course. One must remember that religion is largely a cultural affair which is why an african christian will generally share more cultural traits with an african muslim than a welsh christian, an iranian christian will share more cultural traits with an iranian muslim than an irish christian etc
murder
Member
Thu Apr 10 16:08:21

Today's US market close:

-2.50% DOW
-3.46% S&P
-4.31% Nasdaq

Another 1,015 point drop for the DOW today.

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