Utopia Talk / Politics / The utter absurdity of LGBTism

Rugian Member	Tue Apr 08 08:15:31 Two men will face each other for a women's championship title at the Ultimate Pool Women's Pro Series Event 2 tonight in Wigan, UK. Harriet Haynes and Lucy Smith, both trans-identified males, beat all female competitors to take the spots in the women's final event. http://spo...inal-played-two-072611360.html
williamthebastard Member	Tue Apr 08 08:20:12 You have to be severely fucked up to be more worried about this trivia than war and other disasters
williamthebastard Member	Tue Apr 08 08:21:32 We need to ban basket ball immediately because short people dont stand a chance compared to abnormally tall people!
Rugian Member	Tue Apr 08 08:34:17 WTB If this is so unimportant, then why is your side so insistent on pushing this degenerate shit upon society?
williamthebastard Member	Tue Apr 08 08:38:54 Because youre making up that we are, dumbass. I have zero interest in pushing what you perversely see as degenerate, you are the guys so obsessed with this that the handfull of incidents in the world where this issue comes up was a major argument when you elected a president who is wrecking the worlds economy, you sexually obsessed utter loonies. Professional female pool player: “Let’s put it this way, 98 percent of [men] don’t think a woman can beat them doing anything. And the other two percent are just so stunned that they’d want to pay and watch you play. The short answer is, there is no difference between men and women in pool, there are simply less women playing." https://amanialimsw.medium.com/damaging-behaviors-perpetuate-the-gender-gap-in-the-sport-of-pool-20edfc08598
Rugian Member	Tue Apr 08 08:46:14 "Because youre making up that we are, dumbass." Lol! There's no point in arguing with someone who is denying reality. The left has been aggressively pushing LGBT extremism across the Western world for over a decade now, that is undeniable. The people worthy of criticism are the ones spreading this degeneracy...not the people who, quite reasonably, object to the spread.
williamthebastard Member	Tue Apr 08 08:50:12 There really isnt any point in discussing something with someone who makes up utter idiocy, nor someone who places such utter trivia over genuinely important things going on in the world. I bet youre sitting at your computer in womens underwear right now.
williamthebastard Member	Tue Apr 08 08:51:01 You used to post about weirdo porn, cant remember what you called it, either gore porn or gonzo porn, so, yeah...
williamthebastard Member	Tue Apr 08 08:57:41 Advanced alien species are observing us and going, half of the species drapes materials fashioned from plants and other materials over their bodies and the other half drapes materials from plants and other materials fashioned in slightly different shapes over their bodies - but if one group drapes the materials over their body that the other group uses, some samples of the second group react violently. We have not yet understood this peculiar behaviour but shall continue our studies.
Forwyn Member	Tue Apr 08 09:41:31 It's kind of wild, really, watching only the most toxic aspects of social libertarianism aggregating amongst society. It's not bothering you, why do you care? Do not involve yourself in anyone, do not object to anything. If you object to a kid from a rival school sitting under your school tent, you should be stabbed to death.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Tue Apr 08 10:07:52 William turd brain has gone through how many positions in this thread? Why are you concerned with something so trivial? You are making it up! Your positiom is backwards!
Dukhat Member	Tue Apr 08 13:54:18 Foreskin again makes no sense. Social Media Echo Chamber brain rot.
Forwyn Member	Tue Apr 08 14:23:47 Poor Cuckhat; based on the size of his portfolio, the stress of losing hundreds of millions of dollars must be eating at him.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Tue Apr 08 14:30:01 lol
murder Member	Tue Apr 08 17:49:29 I'm sorry ... men have an advantage at pool???
williamthebastard Member	Tue Apr 08 20:08:15 It just shows how fake their "a man beating a woman up" BS is, because when you completely remove any hint of a possibility of a man using his physical strength against a woman, they still hate it just as much.
murder Member	Tue Apr 08 20:56:27 I oppose it ... although pool isn't a sport as far as I'm concerned. However, I don't understand what the disadvantage is for women in pool ... besides men simply spending more time playing it.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Wed Apr 09 01:19:41 I would assume so yes. Men are on average better at visual-spatial reasoning. These cognitive traits are often only slightly different on average, but become very large at the extremes. And men tend to be more extreme.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Wed Apr 09 01:22:23 The implication is that the elite practitioners of any activity are in the extreme.
obaminated Member	Wed Apr 09 17:50:19 Let's give them the benefit of the doubt that gender doesn't matter for a "sport" like pool (even though it does). Soccer, basketball, wrestling, boxing, mma, swimming, water poll, track - aka any physical sport, there is a clear and undeniable advantage men have over women. There is a reason we separated women from men in sports, because everyone knew if both genders played against each other men would dominate.
murder Member	Wed Apr 09 18:37:48 "Soccer, basketball, wrestling, boxing, mma, swimming, water poll, track - aka any physical sport, there is a clear and undeniable advantage men have over women." Yeah. "Let's give them the benefit of the doubt that gender doesn't matter for a "sport" like pool (even though it does)." I just don't see the advantage. Car racing and horse racing are both far more physical than pool, and I see no reason why women couldn't compete against men and win. I mean what about darts or dice games? -
murder Member	Wed Apr 09 18:39:54 Men have a clear advantage over women at golf. At miniature golf? No.
Sam Adams Member	Wed Apr 09 22:56:53 Seems like motor skills and spatial awareness favor men at mini golf too. But theres one sport where it looks like ladies can compete. Insane distance running... 3000 miles, that kindof thing. When a primary concern is calorie replacement, the ladies stomach seems to operate a little better in action than men.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Thu Apr 10 01:27:33 Hand eye coordination, visual spatial reasoning. Gender differences are not only about physical strength and size. Although they are largest on those domains. How many female grand masters in chess are there? We don’t care we can beat the shit out of women, I think mostly it is the women who want to have leagues of their own. Women have no chance at anything because we produce the most extreme and savage individuals of any activity. The end.
williamthebastard Member	Thu Apr 10 02:14:09 Oh, for gods sake, science proved all this years ago. Men have much faster twitch muscles, so when women play cards against men, men are able to fold or see cards much quicker than silly little women. They also have much slower slow twitch muscles, so they are able to bluff for much longer than silly little women. Science has proven again and again that women are weak and inferior little creatures that need to be protected by manly macho men and sometimes they need to be slapped around the kitchen, but ONLY out of love. Darwin proved this many years ago, but homosexuals hate Darwin.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Thu Apr 10 03:22:19 Fucking retard, strikes again!
williamthebastard Member	Thu Apr 10 03:23:22 Female boxers are placed in their own class for exactly the same reason that lightweight boxers are placed in a different class from heavyweight boxers. But the women-hating incels’ psychological approach is completely different. They accept the male featherweight class without any discussion about them being biologically inferior to heavyweight boxers, theyre just lighter, no problem. But as soon as they see a female boxer, their brain bubbles over with arguments about inferiority, inherent weakness and all the other bigotry that they have collected over the years. Theyre just embarrassingly shallow and tiresome
jergul large member	Thu Apr 10 04:21:04 Well, thanks to mordern medicine, women seem to control the cards if we are to insist on gender competition. Factually, it seems rather short-sighted of them to give birth to males at all.
jergul large member	Thu Apr 10 04:26:39 When it comes to sports though, it seems mostly an idiotic sports problem. You would think sports rules could accomodate transgenders by more equitable classification rules.
williamthebastard Member	Thu Apr 10 05:40:01 "Well, thanks to mordern medicine, women seem to control the cards if we are to insist on gender competition." Well, gender isnt genetics. Sex is genetics. Which, incidentally, is largely why men are often the more primitive chimp section of our species. Sadly, people like Incel Boi get to have kids and the first thing they teach them when ruining them is that men are strong and superior and women are hysterical and inferior, and so the violent chimp upbringing is maintained through generations.
jergul large member	Thu Apr 10 06:03:31 Wtb, I am just saying that if you are only giving birth to one child, then it makes sense for many reasons to ensure that child is a girl.
williamthebastard Member	Thu Apr 10 06:14:02 Ok. I mean, men are often shittier people, but thats largely due to a tradition of giving them a shittier upbringing and teaching them that violence is good and kindness is for homosexuals and women
williamthebastard Member	Thu Apr 10 06:16:24 Cherub the Cow is a good example of a woman who's received a traditional paternalistic upbringing and thus believes in typical macho values such as kindness is for faggots and weaklings etc.
williamthebastard Member	Thu Apr 10 06:21:01 ...demonstrating that women can turn out just as shitty if theyre brought up with those values
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Thu Apr 10 09:01:40 Like the kind up shitty upbringing that makes a child (wtb) join a nazi gang. But when I pointed this out to wtb, he was ENRAGED that I “attacked his family for no reason”. mUh eMpaThY
Forwyn Member	Thu Apr 10 09:10:44 "They accept the male featherweight class without any discussion about them being biologically inferior to heavyweight boxers, theyre just lighter, no problem." Male featherweights will win 100/100 against +1 female weight divisions, in comparable skill levels. I don't expect it to drop below 50/100 until you're getting north of middleweight. So yeah, it's more than just weight.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Apr 10 09:12:45 Left wingnuts scream science and then do this. Lol.
murder Member	Thu Apr 10 12:14:22 "How many female grand masters in chess are there? We don’t care we can beat the shit out of women, I think mostly it is the women who want to have leagues of their own." Culture has tons to do with that. It's likely that more men than women play chess, and that more men than women try to excel at it because historically men do that and women don't. The same goes for pool and tons of other activities. There aren't that many women in the top ranks of poker ... or any rank of poker. -
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Thu Apr 10 12:32:19 Fantastic isn’t it murder? Men invent the games they enjoy playing, they excel at them, but something something culture. Amazing.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Thu Apr 10 12:39:17 More men than women partake in practically every competitive activity. That is like part of the drive. However, men also invented, formalized and organized every competitive activity. You have to be trying really hard to not understand that all these activities overlap with male interests and thus abilities that men have and excel at.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Apr 10 13:16:47 "historically men do that and women don't." Why? Why did culture evolve the way it did. Is there some genetic basis?
murder Member	Thu Apr 10 15:33:50 "Fantastic isn’t it murder? Men invent the games they enjoy playing, they excel at them, but something something culture. Amazing." Fantastic isn't it Nimatzo? Men did everything because women weren't allowed to do anything including participate in the games men created. Amazing. -
murder Member	Thu Apr 10 15:36:36 "Why? Why did culture evolve the way it did. Is there some genetic basis?" Because the law of the jungle ruled societies until someone determined that that was fucked up. Men were physically bigger and stronger and so could intimidate or physically beat women into subservience. -
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Thu Apr 10 15:43:27 Murder That is not true. Women competerwith each other just fine and have activities suited to their interests. It is kinda sexist of you to neither see nor recognize them.
Dukhat Member	Thu Apr 10 17:17:22 We gotta get back at the dozen or so people playing in college sports as transgender even if it tanks the global economy!
williamthebastard Member	Thu Apr 10 17:42:48 "How many female grand masters in chess are there? We don’t care we can beat the shit out of women, I think mostly it is the women who want to have leagues of their own." Culture has tons to do with that. It's likely that more men than women play chess, and that more men than women try to excel at it because historically men do that and women don't. Jesus christ, who said this? I cant believe adults are this bigotted, stupid and shallow and so full of themselves. Women were strictly banned from pool rooms, and as far as chess goes "Women were generally not permitted to join chess clubs until the early 1900s. Once allowed in, they were largely limited to competing against other women." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_chess
williamthebastard Member	Thu Apr 10 17:44:15 Oh, of course it would be Incel Boi. What a complete and utter berk
williamthebastard Member	Thu Apr 10 17:59:23 This is exactly as idiotic as thinking Russians have a superior biological propensity for chess since they have the most chess champions, and not because theyve cultivated a chess culture for a thousand years.
Forwyn Member	Thu Apr 10 19:48:34 Even as toddlers and very young children, when allowed to freely organize, boys are more likely to engage in competitive play in large groups. Girls are more likely to engage in non-competitive play as pairs or small groups. They are more likely to seek consensus to alter rules to change activities if one is perceived as losing. This must be because boys will beat them up otherwise.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Apr 10 20:34:45 "We gotta get back at the dozen or so people playing in college sports as transgender even if it tanks the global economy!" Likewise dems are like we gotta let those trannies beat up on women, even if it leads to trump.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Apr 11 00:49:20 Williamturdbrain “It's likely that more men than women play chess, and that more men than women try to excel at it because historically men do that and women don't.” More women than men take up scrabble and bridge, but ultimately the championships are heavily dominated by men.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Apr 11 00:50:14 https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/sorry-feminists-men-are-better-at-scrabble-and-at-geography-and-math/?ref=quillette.com
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Apr 11 00:55:11 Can you believe that william the retard uncritically copy pasted feminist mythology from wikiepedia, but when it comes to basic politically inert stuff like what is the purpose of a phase 2 clinical trial, he just talked shit about his CV of HUNDREDS of trial work. lol :-)
jergul large member	Fri Apr 11 01:57:21 "They are more likely to seek consensus to alter rules to change activities if one is perceived as losing. This must be because boys will beat them up otherwise" Exactly. Well put. Consensus to alter rules by birthing a single child is fair enough. The other shoedrop would be ensuring that child is a girl. It corresponds to avoiding a serious population decrease over time. A population remains stable if a woman gives birth to a single woman who also gives birth (etc). Seriously, give me one good reason for why women should give birth to what will become men.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Apr 11 02:07:46 Men create everything, pioneer every field and do everything awesome. Artificial wombs will be a reality, thus removing the immutable value of women. You really need to learn another tune.
williamthebastard Member	Fri Apr 11 02:58:49 ”How I belittle women to make myself feel bigger - a biography by an intellectual and moral coward” - Incel Boi
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Apr 11 03:04:07 You have to explain to me one day, why women need to be good at chess and pool or whatever other fucking activity you decided, for you to respect them. Is that why your father beat up your mother, her chess game was weak? You respect women for their sandwich game and their ability to jiggle their tits. You show your gratitude by slapping their ass or grabbing them by the pussy.
murder Member	Fri Apr 11 03:11:21 "More women than men take up scrabble and bridge, but ultimately the championships are heavily dominated by men." Awesome. You know what boys and girls do equally in the US? They go to school. ------------------- U.S. women are outpacing men in college completion, including in every major racial and ethnic group http://www...major-racial-and-ethnic-group/
williamthebastard Member	Fri Apr 11 03:14:55 "When Andrew Tate returns to Christianity again, I will return to applauding his human trafficking and sexual violence again" - A Miserable Weakling
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Apr 11 03:18:48 Listen buddy. You and your friend told us that the reason women did poorly in chess and pool was because fewer women take part and have historically been allowed to take part. That argument was just shattered by participation vs trophies in bridge and scrabble. Now, you want me to explain and break down the variance in what constitutes a "college degree" and the difference between college, real life and competitions. For what purpose exactly? Just go and be stupid.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Apr 11 03:19:30 Rekt.
jergul large member	Fri Apr 11 04:10:30 Cutie, men can simply adopt a finished child if you think they have this amazing interest in fostering an offspring on their own. No need to wait for future technology. Factually, even women can barely be bothered with that project as we watch birthrates continue to plummet. Besides, its a feature, not a bug. Muskins need very little non-elon dna input of modern breeding principles are followed. The future of humanity is Musk unless we defund him. Too many useful idiots who would cheer their way into the narrowest genetic bottleneck humanity has ever seen. But yes, women should definitely prioritize giving birth to girls. So maladaptive not to. <3.
murder Member	Fri Apr 11 04:11:36 What about competitive charades?
jergul large member	Fri Apr 11 04:22:22 A classification error. For example, why is nursing not considered a stem degree, but business administration in many cases is?
patom Member	Fri Apr 11 05:32:39 "But yes, women should definitely prioritize giving birth to girls." I'm no scientist or doctor. So maybe I'm wrong. The sex of babies is to my knowledge, determined by the sperm. Just how do you expect women to filter out the male sperm? As for the ongoing debate about why men are better at sports than women? Do any of you pay attention to the life around you? Men for the most part expect women to cook for them, clean for them, bear children for them, do the grocery shopping, etc. When the kids are growing up the boys are encouraged to go out and play. Girls are encouraged to stick by mom so she can show them how to do all the things men will want from them. Youn men are full of testosterone and are thinking mostly with their cocks. They are trying to attract females with their prowess competing against each other. The strongest or winningest among them seem to get the pick of the prettiest or sexiest females. Kinda like birds or other creatures in the animal kingdom. Boys and men relieved of all the trivial things that women do for them, Have lots of time on their hands. Which allows them to pursue hobbies that most women don't have time for. In my early twenties I managed to put myself in debt and the only entertainment I could afford was shooting pool in a small pool hall. I can only remember 1 girl who came in regularly and wanted to learn the game. I also shot a lot of darts in bars. I was in a league for a couple of years. Never saw a girl on any of the teams we competed with. Neither pool nor darts require any physical prowess. Just time to develop what ever level of skill you possess.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Apr 11 05:44:08 Patom Youn men are full of testosterone and *busy inventing and building everything in the world* Fixed that for you old man. And of course women play an important role here, tending to the needs of their men and serving their family so that men can make the world a better place. Jergul You tried 3 times and failed 3 times. Sounds like sour grapes to me. Ooo them grapes them grapes so sour :)
williamthebastard Member	Fri Apr 11 05:47:40 "Kick her in the stomach and stomp on her head while you are at it as well. Dont forgett to spit on her carcass as you leave." - Incel Boi on his dating site Sosauve inventing and building everything in the world
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Apr 11 06:11:21 For sure. The work I do with testing, inspection and certification of safety and security equipment makes the world a safer and better place. There is no doubt. You're not in the race, you little psychopath you :)
williamthebastard Member	Fri Apr 11 06:41:52 "Wtb, I am just saying that if you are only giving birth to one child, then it makes sense for many reasons to ensure that child is a girl." Why? Men dont inherently have to be primitive chimps. Very many are quite civilized. All we have to do is not give them the terrible religious upbringing to remain undeveloped apes that people like Incel Boi received and is sadly passing on to his kids.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Apr 11 06:48:03 Irreligious going back 4-5 generations. The only Christiana in Iran are Armenians. I am not Armenian. You never got back to us, what kind of upbringing makes a boy join a nazi gang, and then reform in his 50’s to bully people with depression and mental health issues on the internet?
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Apr 11 06:51:20 For clarity, on the census my family would be counted as Muslims. On my mothers side they are Seyyeds. To the extent that one believes in these things, but it is certifiable, I am a descendant of Ali. You can just ask buddy. I love talking about myself.
williamthebastard Member	Fri Apr 11 06:58:07 I mean, probably the majority of the world’s male population would find recommendations for how to break up with your girlfriend, such as "Kick her in the stomach and stomp on her head while you are at it as well. Dont forgett to spit on her carcass as you leave" despicable and utterly humorless, even among their quasi-religious peers. Of course, that majority decreases in the most education-deprived, poverty- and war-stricken places, where the worth of human life decreases and civilized behaviour gets replaced by more pressing basic selfish survivalism, so obviously basic needs should be provided first, to allow more advanced civilization to evolve beyond the chimp stage.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Apr 11 07:01:02 You do understand that that was sarcasm towards the guy who was suggesting that instead of breaking up with the girl, he should use her financially?
williamthebastard Member	Fri Apr 11 07:03:22 In other words, primitive savagery such as Incel Bois persona is far more dependent on social circumstances and very bad upbringing than on sex. If women had a larger body mass and physical strength, its quite likely that the roles of dominance through violence and the threat of violence in primitive traditions would have been reversed.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Apr 11 07:22:03 I will not even call you retarded, because sarcasm doesn’t transfer easily in writting, especially not if you are some kind of psychotic male feminist. But I genuinely detest people, male or female who use and abuse people like that.
jergul large member	Fri Apr 11 07:49:03 Cutie, I succeeded three times in my opinion. I do admire the way that you always seek to insert your novel value system into every discussion, but not everyone feels the same way about your values as you do. Food for thought perhaps <3.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Apr 11 08:15:21 Nobody has three children expecting three of the same. In fact there are studies showing that the chance of having a third goes up significantly if the first two have the same sex. It could have ended at three girls and you could have been content, but the resentment and over the top misandry: sour grapes.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Apr 11 08:29:49 "you always seek to insert your novel" You where the one who inserted you "novel" value system of gender selective insemination. Remember granpa? And this is not about value systems, but about the tragic way your testicles failed you and made you resentful and self-loathing. I mean you are even worse that WTB on this issue. Yikes!
williamthebastard Member	Fri Apr 11 08:32:31 "Kick her in the stomach and stomp on her head while you are at it as well. Dont forgett to spit on her carcass as you leave." Ah, the same mouth he prays to Jesus with. The religion of love
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Apr 11 08:41:52 Does not comprehend sarcasm or metaphors, but claims to have studied philosophy and philology. You know who else studied philology? Goebbels.
Forwyn Member	Fri Apr 11 08:46:31 "Seriously, give me one good reason for why women should give birth to what will become men." This is, of course, a privileged first-world take; it is only viable in a world created by men. A static population matriarchy would never have made it out of caves.
williamthebastard Member	Fri Apr 11 08:54:04 You must search deep within your soul for something good, my child, before all is lost. You know He will not let you pass as long as your heart is full of such profanity and hate. Seek hard, my child, and perhaps you shall find a morsel of un-evil. I shall pray for your eternal soul.
jergul large member	Fri Apr 11 09:43:16 Cutie, I merely point to what objectively is the best adaptive strategy for women as a gender. While simply not having children at all is certainly a dramatic solution many choose, it is factually better to embrace the one child policy women are trending towards and mate that with perpetuating the species. In this case, one woman giving birth to a girl that also procreates by having a girl gives population stability. Each woman needs only to birth a female. It is actually how we should account for these things in population prognosis. How many girls per woman are being born. It needs to be one on average. That it also resolves systematic misogony in society makes it objectively the best choice for women to make given that they do control these things. I am sorry if optimalization strategies rub you the wrong way, but it is what it is <3.
jergul large member	Fri Apr 11 09:50:41 By this proper and complete measure, 130 countries are set for population decline. Sometimes dramatically. http://en....tries_by_net_reproduction_rate
murder Member	Fri Apr 11 15:38:55 "A static population matriarchy would never have made it out of caves." Some of you never have.
jergul large member	Fri Apr 11 17:34:04 "A static population matriarchy would never have made it out of caves." Fair enough. But we are out of the caves now. Though as a factual note, did not patriachies emerge with the agricultural revolution? Matriarchies may very well have been equally viable until wealth accumulation gave something worth stealing?
williamthebastard Member	Fri Apr 11 17:53:52 hrough a review of current archaeological evidence and literature, they found little evidence to support the idea that roles were assigned specifically to each sex. The team also looked at female physiology and found that women were not only physically capable of being hunters, but that there is little evidence to support that they were not hunting. The researchers found examples of equality for both sexes in ancient tools, diet, art, burials and anatomy. But from what evidence we do have, there appears to be almost no sex differences in roles." The team also examined the question of whether anatomical and physiological differences between men and women prevented women from hunting. They found that men have an advantage over women in activities requiring speed and power, such as sprinting and throwing, but that women have an advantage over men in activities requiring endurance, such as running. Both sets of activities were essential to hunting in ancient times. "When we take a deeper look at the anatomy and the modern physiology and then actually look at the skeletal remains of ancient people, there's no difference in trauma patterns between males and females, because they're doing the same activities," Lacy said. https://phys.org/news/2023-10-prehistoric-gender-roles-women-hunters.html
williamthebastard Member	Fri Apr 11 17:57:27 The idea of men as hunters and women as gatherers gained prominence in 1968 with the publication of “Man the Hunter,” which assumed all hunters were male. Lacy emphasises the gender bias in early anthropological research and its lasting influence on academia and popular culture. https://www.openaccessgovernment.org/challenging-prehistoric-gender-roles-women-as-hunters-too/168733/
williamthebastard Member	Fri Apr 11 18:04:05 A lot of graves had been discovered by archaeologists dating to this time in this huge region, but it wasn’t until the 1970s that archaeologists began to discover that some Scythians buried with weapons and horses were women. Some had clear battle injuries, and some women were even buried together — one case in western Russia even seemed to display three generations in a shared tomb. Mayor says that more than 300 ancient warrior women have been unearthed dating to Scythian times in the past few decades. And more discoveries are likely. >> The spread of Islam in many parts of what used to be Scythia starting in the 7th century may have affected the status of women in nomadic tribes in the area<< https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/the-forgotten-history-of-amazon-warrior-women-of-ancient-scythia Oh dear, it may be Incel Bois hated Islam that is the root of his hatred of inferior women lol “[Women] were buried with the same honors as men, and with the same battle scars,” Mayor says.
williamthebastard Member	Fri Apr 11 18:07:10 In fact, I suspect that the Abrahamic religions as a whole may have had a lot to do with diminishing womens' roles in society.
williamthebastard Member	Fri Apr 11 18:14:27 Predominant among tribes that rode horses, apparently, which negated any difference in body mass "The Scythians lived in small tribes, wore trousers—necessary when constantly riding on horseback—and fought with bows and arrows. “If you think about it, a woman on a horse with a bow, trained since childhood, can be just as fast and as deadly as a boy or man,” https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/tomb-containing-three-generations-amazon-warrior-women-unearthed-russia-180973877/
williamthebastard Member	Fri Apr 11 18:24:28 The abrahamic religions were never as cool as the pagan, viking etc religions, all of which seem to have been quite egalitarian. Viking women had lots of rights, pagans in the UK were also known for that, sometimes they had female goddesses instead of male gods, etc.
williamthebastard Member	Fri Apr 11 18:29:54 Of course, then came christians who spent 500 years burning pagan women, or "witches". Burning women alive is a pretty effective way of keeping them down.
williamthebastard Member	Fri Apr 11 18:42:23 Mmmm, the first christian witch killing occurred in 400 AD, a woman who was far too smart for their liking, and ushered in a period of stupidity and anti-science: Hypatia[a] (born c. 350–370 – March 415 AD)[1][4] was a Neoplatonist philosopher, astronomer, and mathematician who lived in Alexandria, Egypt: at that time a major city of the Eastern Roman Empire. In Alexandria, Hypatia was a prominent thinker who taught subjects including philosophy and astronomy.[5], and in her lifetime was renowned as a great teacher and a wise counselor The German author Wilhelm Gottlieb Soldan argued in History of the Witchcraft Trials that the philosopher and mathematician Hypatia, murdered by a mob in 415 AD for threatening the influence of Cyril of Alexandria, may have been, in effect, the first famous "witch" to be punished by Christian authorities At the same time, European philosophers and scientists described Hypatia as the last representative of science and free inquiry before a "long medieval decline".[117]
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sat Apr 12 12:57:56 I am so happy with this I let ChatGPT fix the grammer and structure. For the benefit of anyone who wants to shut this type of pop feminist mythology down. Claim 1: Recent archaeological evidence overturns the idea that men were the primary hunters. Rebuttal: A handful of high-profile cases showing women buried with hunting tools have been used to challenge the long-standing consensus about sex-based division of labor. But these are anomalies, not counter-evidence. The universal pattern across all known hunter-gatherer societies—past and present—is that men hunt. This isn’t a cultural coincidence; it reflects deep evolutionary selection for differentiated roles based on biological and reproductive realities. These roles endured not because of oppression, but because they worked. ⸻ Claim 2: Anatomical and physiological differences didn’t prevent women from hunting. Rebuttal: This is a classic confusion of possibility with optimality. Yes, women can hunt—but men are better suited for the tasks most associated with hunting: strength, throwing, sprinting, risk-taking, and cooperative violence. These traits are biologically dimorphic and selected for over millennia because they improved group survival and reproductive success. Meanwhile, women’s physiological and social strengths were channeled into domains equally vital to human thriving—just different. ⸻ Claim 3: Women’s endurance advantage suggests they were well-suited for persistence hunting. Rebuttal: This argument rests on selective and speculative reasoning: 1. Persistence hunting—chasing prey to exhaustion over long distances—is not widely documented in either ancient nor widely practiced among modern hunter-gatherer societies. Most likely because there are other better hunting strategies. Where it does occur it is exclusively in sandy flat terrain, further reducing its applicability as a strategy broadly. 2. Most hunts involve bursts of speed, ambush, or group coordination, not ultra-endurance feats. These are areas where men have clear physiological advantages. 3. Even where women show parity or advantages in extreme endurance, these occur at distances far beyond what was typical or practical for endurance hunting. And even then, men still outperform women overall, just by smaller margins. ⸻ Claim 4: Prehistoric societies were egalitarian, and modern society should return to those roots. Rebuttal: This romanticism overlooks a brutal fact: those societies no longer exist. They are not models of enduring success; they are archaeological data points, not living civilizations. Whatever “egalitarian” elements may have existed did not create resilient cultures that could withstand the pressures of time, expansion, or competition. In contrast, hierarchically organized, role-differentiated societies outcompeted and absorbed them. That’s not a value judgment—it’s an observation about what survived and what didn’t. ⸻ Conclusion: Modern egalitarianism is a novel social experiment, only decades old and already facing widespread friction, incoherence, and backlash. To project its values backward onto the archaeological record is not only bad science, it’s historically naive. Addendum: 1. The Scythians, an Iranian tribe, had vanished as a people and absorbed by the Sarmatians 1000 years before Islam and even that confederation was gone several hundred years before Islam, at the hand of the Goths. 2. Hypathia was the victim of political and religious tension, calling her the first witch is a modern meme-fication of history and not the product of serious scholarship.
jergul large member	Sat Apr 12 13:25:09 Cutie, exactly. And if women chose to no longer raise boys, then that is just an example of one gender also not having enduring success <3. Though surely the jury is still out on sustainability in the post agricultural revolution period. It has not even been 300 generations. That is like nothing.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sun Apr 13 08:19:44 What we see today: falling fertility, psychological distress, declining social cohesion—isn’t a moral judgment, it’s a signal. If we are to take the data points from the archeological records at face value, a warning. The best bet for reaching jergulian dystopia was the ESG/DEI concerted effort driven by WEF and Black Rock. But the cat is out of the bag, the world is so called “multi-polar” :-) How many dicks do you need to conquer a world full of pussies?
jergul large member	Sun Apr 13 08:47:25 Cutie, what is dystopian about imagining a future paradise earth with a population of 300 million? A bit on the high end, sure, but we could pull of paradise if careful. Not recognizing this seems almost a failure of imagination <3.
williamthebastard Member	Sun Apr 13 08:54:36 From an idiot who believes animal populations must be hunted, killed an controlled to make sure their population doesnt explode and lead to environmental harm
williamthebastard Member	Sun Apr 13 08:56:21 of course, all it would take for him to think the human population must be hunted, killed and controlled is for his fascist puppet master Elon to start saying that, and 5 minutes later Incel will be parroting him
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