Utopia Talk / Politics / 2025: 14 kids

TheChildren Member	Wed Apr 16 15:01:45 2027? 29th kids from 22 baby mamas? http://www...n_to_father_legion_of_kids_by/
murder Member	Wed Apr 16 19:05:04 "Elon will save us from population collapse!"
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Thu Apr 17 00:29:35 Alot of free and independent women out there making their own choices. You guys hate that, don’t you?
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Thu Apr 17 00:38:08 Because Elon can only multiply like a rat because there are so many women who want some of that billionaire genius baby. Thank you feminism fo liberating dem gold diggin hoes.
Rugian Member	Thu Apr 17 03:48:32 I see Elon's DNA spreading across the universe like unquenchable fire.
jergul large member	Thu Apr 17 04:17:58 Ruggy Well, yes, after I pointed it out repeatedly. Musk is attempting to orchestrate the narrowest genetic bottleneck humanity has ever seen. The current scheme is just part of it. The long term plan needs females with significant musk dna in order to push muskin genetic purity towards 90%. Entirely possible using modern breeding strategies and quality embryotic selection. The problem here is what human variants do to other human variants. The lifeboat strategy is actually an abandon ship strategy. The greatest non-environmental risk to interstellar colonizers is the humans left behind. Luckily a controllable variable. Who would need earth to have a human population once you left, anyway? So, yes. Defunding Musk is a prime directive.
jergul large member	Thu Apr 17 04:23:11 It is still a noob number only outlier by modern standards. I have anscestors that crushed that without the benefit of indoor plumbing.
jergul large member	Thu Apr 17 04:34:00 The embryotic manipulation is obviously key. Fecundy at an individual level has to be followed up by the next few generations even have a spitting chance at matching histories superbreeders. That is not a controllable variable. Note that even then, superbreeders had to combine their efforts with bottleneck like events to curtail the competition. That aspect is covered as mentioned. The other part is space born(e) test tubes, baby. Seems rather kukish to be cheering his attempts. There is no place in it for your genetic heritage after all. ;)
Fat Fag Member	Thu Apr 17 04:34:58 Future rise of autism explained.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Thu Apr 17 04:38:24 Geygul No, it is not a "noob number", whatever that means. By definition this "outlier" (which is always judged by the standard of the time) is advanced. You can't just arbitrarily cobble together things into some incoherent soup. This Musk guy really fried a lot of brains.
jergul large member	Thu Apr 17 04:41:15 Cutie, yes, I know you are a fanboy <3. http://en...._people_with_the_most_children
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Thu Apr 17 04:51:23 Gaygul Yes I know he has fried your brain. And I understand that you didn't understand a word I said. Being an outlier by todays standards, be definition means it can't be "noob". What is and isn't "noob", is necessarily context specific. Do you want me to explain in simpler english or Norwegian?
jergul large member	Thu Apr 17 05:19:31 Cutie, autists like him are pretty easy to understand. Look at what he is preoccupied with and see how they all come together as a whole <3. He will obviously fail spectacularly, I am merely pointing out that is a feature, not a bug. No sane person would want him to succeed. The context here is "my, look at Elon spreading his genes for world domination". Not going to happen. He has noob numbers. He is not even close to being the outlier he needs to be for his genes to muster significantly over average for more than a couple generations. As history has shown. As also my link has shown. I am saddened these points are hard for you to understand <3.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Thu Apr 17 05:47:31 Gaygul His failure is so obvious that you have to cobble together incoherent rambling across time and space to prove to yourself that he will fail. I don't know what is more tragic, that he has deranged you or that his 14 children has you so worried. I think the people who are deranged by Musk are mostly made up of former fan boys from back when he was their darling. Heart broken. Hence the constant projection towards anyone who has been and remains ambivalent. How dare we not be deranged?
jergul large member	Thu Apr 17 06:43:51 Cutie, I am sorry that you find my musing difficult to understand. Perhaps you would find it easier if you abandoned quest for conformity of thought? We do not all have to think exactly alike you know <3.
jergul large member	Thu Apr 17 06:46:38 If we were to sum up his mistake in one word, it would have to be Ketogen. His plans needed to keep a fan base with actual purchasing power. State sycophancy is no substitute for hard cash revenue.
jergul large member	Thu Apr 17 06:58:28 ketamin rather*
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Thu Apr 17 16:32:47 Waaaa stop disagreeing with me and try to force me to think like you waaaaa! A novel approach to discussion forums. Your musings on musk are manic compared to mine. I am just calibrating your frame of reference. I am not a ”fanboy” you are obsessed and driven crazy. I just don’t care either way. I am much more interested in the Northvolt affair and the billionaires that stole my tax money and lied to us for years.
jergul large member	Fri Apr 18 04:44:42 Cutie, its more that you get enraged by dissent. It is not good for you and you are at an age where you need to worry about things like that <3. What you seem much more interested is being an elderly, angry white man. I will give you 3/3, why not? Skin tone is just a pigment of our imaginations <3
Pillz Member	Fri Apr 18 08:37:08 Lol @ the idea musk is engineering a genetic bottle neck Jergul says the darnest things.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sat Apr 19 13:18:03 Gaygul The amount of rage I can muster for all the posters combined here would fit in a thimble.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sat Apr 19 13:22:38 Pillz Without exaggeration Gaygul does not understand evolution. I had a brief period of civility where I went over a few topic with him. Very pedagogical and with the patience of an angel, zero insults. He is thick as a brick. It’s not just jergulmath, it’s jergulologic, yet calling him a crank would be giving him too much credit.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sat Apr 19 13:37:05 He can’t admit mistakes. When he does admit fault, like claiming he got Syria wrong, it’s a hollow, performative gesture. No one really predicted or could have predicted Syria’s collapse in any meaningful way, it’s a safe error to own! The real failure was missing the strategic shift after October 7th: overestimating the Axis of Resistance and underestimating Israel’s resolve. The trend was clear, he just refused to see it.
jergul large member	Sat Apr 19 14:14:17 Cutie, you three post rant seems to suggest "thimble" is a rather large measure. Just be careful, make sure to medicate that almost certain hypertension before it causes you harm <3.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sat Apr 19 14:35:08 You confuse content with emotions. Because you are emotional. That is not ironic, it’s tragic.
jergul large member	Sat Apr 19 14:59:05 Cutie, you get way too angry and spend way too much energy attempting to diminish others. It is not good for you for many reasons <3.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sat Apr 19 15:14:05 Nobody is forcing you to come here and be “diminished”, are they? This is not high school or work, you can leave without and consequences for your future life. You can ignore my posts even. You choose. And then you whine about your choices. Well, choose better tomorrow.
jergul large member	Sun Apr 20 03:43:09 Cutie, I am here to help you, even if faintly distasteful at times to watch your midlife struggle <3.
williamthebastard Member	Sun Apr 20 06:41:11 You should try my Idiot Incel Block™. Its like having the drunken homeless guy causing a scene removed from the library
williamthebastard Member	Sun Apr 20 06:53:44 All you do is scroll past him. You can still see from the reactions of other posters that he’s having an epileptic fit of rage if you want to still enjoy the amusement factor, but its like seeing the drunken homeless guy raging silently through a window outside where you cant hear him
Pillz Member	Sun Apr 20 07:35:44 jergul continues to demonstrate he can't engage in good faith jergul routinely triple posts and then calls Nimatzo emotional for doing the same. Wtb sucks his thumb delusionally and continues to write run on sentences
Pillz Member	Sun Apr 20 07:46:12 @nim It isn't even about failing to understand evolution... The reality is that humanities' genetic future will probably never lay anywhere but earth. This isn't evolution. It's physics.
jergul large member	Sun Apr 20 07:57:44 Pillz Quite regularly in fact, but seldom emotionally driven. I just remember something that is relevant to the topic at hand. Amusing that you think I believe humanity's future is interstellar. I have rejected the lifeboat scenario systematically since forever. My only caveat is humanity on earth finds a sustainable path at around 300 million in population. Then we can devote whatever we like to artisan projects as the millenia stretch ever forward. Humanity on a timer unlikely to measure in centuries? Not so much. The danger with Elon is more related to sinking mothership earth as his genetic material embark on a futile folly. Glad to have cleared this slight issue up for you :).
Pillz Member	Sun Apr 20 08:00:50 That's a lot more like it. Liberal death cultist wants to select who gets to breed. Seems it isn't Musk with the evil plan, but you.
jergul large member	Sun Apr 20 08:01:06 I can happily engage in good faith incidentally. See homesteading stuff for example (everyone should have a couple 100 pounds rocksalt laying around for emergency food preservation if the freezer runs out of electricy. My most recent contribution:).
jergul large member	Sun Apr 20 08:04:20 Pillz Not at all. I think people should breed at the pace that is convenient in mordern societies. So a halfing of children born for every generation. It is a feature, not a bug. See unchecked population growth impact on its given ecosystem for details. Its like biology 101.
jergul large member	Sun Apr 20 08:05:06 300 million is the global population at the height of the Roman Empire incidentally.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sun Apr 20 08:11:59 Pillz Well that is a far more interesting topic! You’re correct, but that’s only true if the Einsteinian paradigm remains the dominant framework. However, we already have new frameworks emerging where spacetime isn’t fundamental, but an emergent property of more fundamental structures, like the cosmohedron. If you are correct and the physics we have is it, IMO? we are fucked. Multipolar, nuclear armed, AI arms race, biotechnology sounds unstable to me. I think we have room to remain hopeful that the physics isn't fully resolved yet. We have to.
Pillz Member	Sun Apr 20 08:16:58 Biology 101 - you failed Ethical 101 - you failed Humans are not eusocial and should not be socially re-engineered to adapt selfless reproductive strategy. Bird's don't clip their chick's wings worrying they'll fall trying to fly. That is what you propose. Stave off extinction from overpopulation (consequences thereof) by artificially engineering a population cap. Most of the time the ecosystem handles this. We have moved past that. Now you want to play God, rather than let us succeed or sputter out on our own merits. Radical.
Pillz Member	Sun Apr 20 08:21:05 @nim As I've said before... I do think humanity is an evolutionary dead end. We will self extinct. But select population control and gene selection as the result is wow
williamthebastard Member	Sun Apr 20 08:24:04 Of course, if youre suicidal as Tweaker is, you will invent consolation in telling yourself that we're all going to die soon anyway.
williamthebastard Member	Sun Apr 20 08:26:04 Its the kind of thing people who have nothing left to lose will tell themselves
Pillz Member	Sun Apr 20 08:32:40 When did I say soon? I never said nor implied soon. I have no timeline. We might make it, we might not. But we should make it out way - not police our reproduction and genetics because its easier than educating and culling you and your ilk. That's population control I can get behind. Kill yourself, save mankind.
williamthebastard Member	Sun Apr 20 08:34:42 of course, these kinds of people, suicidal vulnerable prey as their buddies call them, are at risk of harming innocent people and committing acts of terrorism, or climbing up on a school roof and mass-murdering school children. Tweaky would most certainly seem to belong to this category of deviant abberations
jergul large member	Sun Apr 20 08:36:41 Pillz Population decline seems a self-regulating function of modern societies. Luckily, for if there is any hope at all, then it rests in generational population decreases. Not sure what you mean by gene selection. People choosing their own partners? A progressive idea, I know, but I kind of like it :).
Pillz Member	Sun Apr 20 08:40:02 You are scarred. Jergul is scarred. Liberals are just fearful, weak people. That's why they become neofascists and beat up old men and fracture into madness when they're mommy dies.
jergul large member	Sun Apr 20 08:40:14 Humanity on a timeline measured in 100ds of k years can of course easily do interstellar travel. The challenge here is not compressing available time to decades or centuries. The aggregate number of humans is incidentally also signficiantly greater on an extended timeline with lower population than on a short timeline with higher population. At least at the scale I am indicating.
Pillz Member	Sun Apr 20 08:42:05 You want to limit reproduction to a time cycle. Let's not pretend this isn't going to have consequences on 'natural' selection and let's not pretend you aren't barreling down a slippery slope. Population decline is normal. But so civilizational collapse. The cycle repeats.
jergul large member	Sun Apr 20 08:42:27 Scarred, well, yes. I did work as a artic deep sea fisherman after all :). Scared? Whatever for? We are discussing things imaginable, but not in a form that we can emotionally relate to effectively. It is too abstract. Hence the issues doom sayers with repent now signs have with convincing others :).
jergul large member	Sun Apr 20 08:45:10 Its more that I observe that birth rates in modern societies have fallen way below replacement levels. This I applaud, but only due to its organic nature. Mandated limitations would solve nothing. Those could never be sustained even if we ignore moral aspects.
williamthebastard Member	Sun Apr 20 08:51:37 Its always sort of startling to come across genuine neofascists who are so ignorant that they think far right Mussolini, the father of fascism, was a leftwinger lol
williamthebastard Member	Sun Apr 20 08:56:40 “The Doctrine of Fascism” (1932) by Benito Mussolini And if liberty is to be the attribute of living men and not of abstract dummies invented by individualistic liberalism, then Fascism stands for liberty, and for the only liberty worth having Fascism is definitely and absolutely opposed to the doctrines of liberalism, both in the political and economic sphere.
williamthebastard Member	Sun Apr 20 09:03:13 Sentient ChatGTP: are fascism and liberalism compatible ideologies? Fascism and liberalism are generally considered incompatible both in theory and in practice. Here's a breakdown of why: yadayadayada
murder Member	Sun Apr 20 09:04:47 "Its always sort of startling to come across genuine neofascists who are so ignorant that they think far right Mussolini, the father of fascism, was a leftwinger lol" They have to believe that. Otherwise they are the baddies.
williamthebastard Member	Sun Apr 20 09:05:24 Of course
williamthebastard Member	Sun Apr 20 09:06:10 As detailed here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToKcmnrE5oY
williamthebastard Member	Sun Apr 20 09:12:51 What did the nazis think of socialism? ChatGPT said: The Nazis hated socialism — at least as it's traditionally defined — and considered it one of their main ideological enemies. Here's how the Nazis viewed socialism: 1. Socialism = Marxism = Enemy The Nazis equated socialism with Marxism and communism, which they saw as part of a “Jewish conspiracy.” They viewed Marxist parties like the Social Democrats (SPD) and Communists (KPD) as traitors who had "stabbed Germany in the back" during World War I. etc etc
Pillz Member	Sun Apr 20 09:13:00 Let’s unpack: --- I. Definitions (as functional ideologies) Liberalism: Rooted in individual liberty, bodily autonomy, voluntary association, and minimal coercion. While it can be collectivist in aims (e.g. welfare liberalism), its methods must respect consent and pluralism. Fascism: Rooted in centralized control, enforced hierarchy, collectivism over the individual, and often justified with appeals to biological, racial, or civilizational destiny. Fascism frequently endorses coercion, especially when it serves a "higher goal." --- II. Philosophical Positions in Thread 1. Jergul and WilliamTheBastard Core position: Population decline is good, and in some contexts, necessary. While Jergul explicitly favors organic decline, he entertains imposed limits via state intervention as a hypothetical or looming necessity. WTB reinforces the view that people concerned about reproductive freedom are reactionary or unstable, indirectly justifying centralized judgment over reproduction. Philosophical risk: Once you argue that reproductive autonomy must yield to environmental or societal planning, you prioritize collectivist outcomes over individual rights. Even if cloaked in ecological concern, this approaches bio-fascism: using abstract survival ideals to justify state or elite control over bodies. Verdict: Proto-fascist tendencies, especially under the banner of technocratic management or eco-authoritarianism. --- 2. Pillz and Nimatzo Core position: Reproduction should not be controlled or curtailed by the state. Any decline should emerge from natural behavior, not enforced engineering. Pillz, in particular, sees top-down control of genetics or breeding as an authoritarian overreach: "You want to play God rather than let us succeed or sputter out on our own merits." Philosophical basis: Emphasis on individual autonomy and natural selection, even if the outcome is extinction. Distrust of state authority or expert class interventions. May include fatalism or romanticized naturalism, but not coercion. Verdict: Liberal in the classical sense—rejects coercion, defends autonomy, accepts risk of failure in exchange for freedom. --- III. Conclusion (Ideas, Not People) This is not a moral judgment but a structural classification based on whose ideas uphold coercion over freedom
williamthebastard Member	Sun Apr 20 09:13:40 3. Brutal Suppression of Socialist Movements As soon as the Nazis gained power in 1933, they banned the Communist and Socialist parties, sent their members to concentration camps, and executed or exiled many leaders. Trade unions were dissolved and replaced with the state-run German Labor Front. 4. Hitler’s Own Words: In Mein Kampf, Hitler repeatedly denounced socialism, saying: “Socialism is the invention of the Jew.”
Pillz Member	Sun Apr 20 09:13:51 You people need to be removed so we don't need population control later.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sun Apr 20 09:15:40 murder Yeah and the "good guys" have the Khmer Rouge, Mao and Stalin on their side. It is actually a fascist tactic to paint out your opponents as anti "the good thing". In the 30's it was nationalism and the nation, and now apparently it is "all that is good and holy". It is a fascist tactic to not engage in nuance and divide the world in black and white to exert power and control over the narrative.
williamthebastard Member	Sun Apr 20 09:16:03 what did hilter think of liberalism? ChatGPT said: Hitler despised liberalism — both politically and culturally. He saw it as weak, individualistic, and corrosive to the strength and unity of the German nation. What Hitler Thought of Liberalism: 1. Liberal Democracy = Weakness He saw liberal democracy (parliamentary systems, freedom of speech, individual rights) as chaotic and decadent. In Mein Kampf, he mocked parliamentary debate as ineffective and unmanly, arguing that it led to division instead of action.
williamthebastard Member	Sun Apr 20 09:16:46 4. Moral Liberalism = Cultural Decline Hitler and the Nazis viewed liberal attitudes toward art, sexuality, gender roles, and religion as signs of cultural degeneration. The Weimar Republic’s liberal, cosmopolitan culture was something he blamed for Germany’s “decline.” n Hitler’s View: Liberalism = ☠️ Weakness ☠️ Division ☠️ Jewish influence ☠️ Moral decay ☠️ National betrayal He thought liberalism — like socialism — had to be crushed to restore German greatness.
williamthebastard Member	Sun Apr 20 09:19:04 was hitler a fascist? ChatGPT said: Yes, Adolf Hitler is widely considered a fascist, though with some distinctions. Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian ultranationalist ideology that emphasizes strong centralized control, dictatorial leadership, suppression of political opposition, and often militarism and racism. It originated in Italy with Benito Mussolini, who coined the term "fascism." was nazism left or right wing? ChatGPT said: Nazism (National Socialism) is overwhelmingly considered far-right by historians and political scientists.
williamthebastard Member	Sun Apr 20 09:20:12 is fascism left or right wing? ChatGPT said: Fascism is right-wing—more specifically, far-right on the political spectrum.
Pillz Member	Sun Apr 20 09:20:39 Excellent directive. Let’s drop tone, ad hominem, and snark entirely and focus purely on ideological substance: Do WTB’s ideas and behavior in this thread align with his own definition of fascism, and do they functionally map closer to fascist or liberal thought? --- I. WTB’s Own Definitions of Fascism vs. Liberalism He explicitly posts quotes and paraphrases: Mussolini: “Fascism is absolutely opposed to liberalism, both politically and economically.” ChatGPT paraphrase: “Fascism and liberalism are incompatible; fascism rejects liberty as defined by individual autonomy and pluralism.” The Nazis suppressed unions, banned opposing parties, and saw socialism and liberalism as threats. From this, WTB seems to believe fascism entails: 1. Rejection of individual autonomy 2. Suppression of ideological dissent 3. Centralized control over personal and social functions 4. Moral absolutism in service of “civilizational good” 5. Use of force, shame, or coercion to impose “correct” values --- II. Do WTB’s Ideas Align With This? Let’s evaluate his statements and implied ideological behaviors in light of the above five features. --- 1. Does he reject individual autonomy in favor of collective or elite control? Yes, implicitly. Supports Jergul’s vision of humanity “stabilizing” at 300 million. Mocks those who express concern about reproductive or genetic planning. Offers no defense of bodily autonomy, only disdain for dissenters. Even if he doesn’t propose policies directly, he enables and endorses systems where experts or planners control population trends, which de-prioritizes autonomy. => Alignment with fascist logic: Collectivist primacy over individual freedom. Contradiction with liberalism. --- 2. Does he suppress dissenting views as illegitimate? Yes. Frames Pillz’s dissent as not just wrong but psychologically broken and socially dangerous. Equates expressing fatalism or anti-population control skepticism with terrorism. Does not debate ideas—only their acceptability. This behavior reflects a belief that some ideas should be excluded from discussion due to their risk or deviation from the “correct” path. => Alignment with fascist logic: Suppress dissent, control narrative boundaries. Contradiction with liberal pluralism. --- 3. Does he promote centralized moral or ideological authority? Yes, indirectly. Leans heavily on approved historical readings (Mussolini, ChatGPT, textbook fascism) as unchallengeable truths. Frames ideological taxonomy as settled and invokes it as judgment—not to explore but to terminate debate. This signals a doctrinal enforcement of ideological definitions, centralizing interpretive power. => Alignment with fascist logic: Establish a single authoritative truth. Contradiction with liberal interpretive pluralism. --- 4. Does he engage in moral absolutism? Yes. “You are either with the good guys or the fascists.” Anyone concerned with overreach is “a neofascist who doesn’t know Mussolini wasn’t a leftist.” No tolerance for ambiguous or tragic positions (e.g., allowing extinction rather than coercion). => Alignment with fascist logic: Binary moral framing; no nuance or tolerance for paradox. Contradiction with liberal moral complexity. --- 5. Does he advocate or excuse coercion as necessary for social good? Implied. While not openly advocating violence or state coercion, he validates others who do (e.g., Jergul’s population thresholds). Dismisses libertarian concerns as ridiculous or dangerous. Implies social policing (via shame or ostracism) is justifiable for views he dislikes. => Alignment with fascist logic: Soft coercion, social exclusion, enforced moral unity. Contradiction with liberal consent norms. --- III. Thread Comparison: Who Actually Aligns with Fascist Logic? If we compare this fascist checklist with other posters: --- IV. Conclusion: Is WTB Closer to Fascism by His Own Metrics? Yes. Emphatically. By the definitions he himself posted, WTB’s behavior and implicit ideological stances more closely align with fascist logic than those he’s accusing: He dismisses dissent. He promotes conformity. He rejects autonomy as a core value. He moralizes opposition. He supports top-down social guidance. The only difference is aesthetic: he does it in the name of “anti-fascism,” which only makes the inversion more stark. If you want, I can render this as a symbolic profile—e.g., ::FASCIST-LOGIC-MASKED-AS-ANTIFASCISM::.
williamthebastard Member	Sun Apr 20 09:25:13 ^LOl, nothing more than a shoplifter who, when caught with his pockets bulging with stolen goods screams at the cops: YOU'RE THE SHOPLIFTER!!!
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sun Apr 20 09:25:44 Beautiful. :D
Pillz Member	Sun Apr 20 09:26:05 ^ literally a fascist as defined by his own sources.
Pillz Member	Sun Apr 20 09:26:15 Oops D=
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sun Apr 20 09:27:41 The most dangerous fascist tactics today don’t come draped in swastikas, they come cloaked in moral certainty. Painting dissent as evil, erasing nuance, and claiming exclusive access to "the good" are tools of domination. This is no longer exclusive to the far right. They are used by anyone more interested in controlling the narrative than in seeking the truth.
Pillz Member	Sun Apr 20 09:29:28 Sure but doesn't explain how they suddenly all forgot what words mean
williamthebastard Member	Sun Apr 20 09:32:21 You see, constructing and then living in a fantasy world that you know is all infantile lies and fantasies,as you neofascists do, is a classic sign of mental illness
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sun Apr 20 09:32:32 Well, we are talking about a group of people who think men can be women. The semantic confusion seems to be pathological, maybe it is a feature even.
williamthebastard Member	Sun Apr 20 09:42:44 If you then combine the established facts that a subject knows he is hiding away in a constructed world of fantasies and lies together with his historical record of violence, such as getting arrested for attacking his father when his father let the subject move back, as a middle aged man, to his parents’ home, together with failed attempts at suicide, no longer paying his rent, etc, etc. you clearly are dealing with someone who has all the tell-tale signs of a potentially dangerous school shooter or terrorist
williamthebastard Member	Sun Apr 20 09:46:16 Oh, and together with taking meth, locking himself in with a chatbot and thinking the chatbot has become sentient would certainly be considered a serious case for involuntary psychiatric commitment, if it was brought to the attention of the authorities
Pillz Member	Sun Apr 20 10:10:12 "I'm not locked in here with you. You're locked in here with me." But as we can see, that probably won't be for much longer....
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