Utopia Talk / Politics / Brain drain

Paramount Member	Sat Apr 19 05:29:09 France is looking to steal the smart people of the USA. Will Trump just accept this? Nearly 300 apply as French university offers US academics ‘scientific asylum’ Nearly 300 academics have applied to a French university’s offer to take in US-based researchers rattled by the American government’s crackdown on academia, as a former French president called for the creation of a “scientific refugee” status for academics in peril. Earlier this year, France’s Aix-Marseille University was among the first in Europe to respond to the funding freezes, cuts and executive orders unleashed on institutions across the US by Donald Trump’s administration. What they were offering – through a programme titled Safe Place for Science – was a sort of “scientific asylum”, offering three years of funding at their facility for about 20 researchers. On Thursday the university said it had received 298 applications in a month, of which 242 were deemed eligible. The applicants hailed from institutions such as Johns Hopkins University, Nasa, Columbia, Yale and Stanford, it said in a statement. Most of the applications were sent using encrypted messaging, the university’s president, Eric Berton, wrote in the French newspaper Libération. “And with them came worrying, sometimes chilling, accounts from American researchers about the fate reserved for them by the Trump administration,” he said. Most applicants were experienced researchers in fields that ranged from the humanities to life sciences and the environment, according to the university. Just over half of the eligible applicants, 135, were American, while 45 were dual nationals. More than a dozen French citizens also applied, as did Europeans, Indian nationals and Brazilians. The university said the selection process would start in the coming days, with the aim of allowing researchers to begin arriving in early June. François Hollande, a former president of France and a current Socialist MP, recently joined forces with Berton to call for France to recognise embattled researchers from around the world as refugees. “Just like the expression of divergent opinions, their work, which is a source of innovation and knowledge, has become a risk for the propaganda of regimes,” the pair recently wrote in Libération. Academics, much like journalists or political opponents, should be able to qualify for protection, they argued. “Indeed, current asylum mechanisms do not take into account the specificities of the academic environment and the threats facing scientists within authoritarian regimes,” they wrote. “This is why we are making an urgent request, one that is appropriate for the current situation: the creation of a ‘scientific refugee’ status.” On Monday, Hollande backed his words with legislative action. In a bill tabled in the country’s national assembly, he proposed that researchers suffering attacks on their academic freedom be eligible for subsidiary protection – a category reserved for asylum seekers who do not meet the conditions for refugee status but who can demonstrate that they are facing serious threats. Doing so would allow for faster and more efficient processing of these researchers, as officials could set out clear eligibility criteria and map out pathways to ensure that they would be able to continue their research. Hollande described it as an “obligation”, particularly for researchers working in fields such as the climate crisis. “If they are interrupted, hindered, prevented, it will be a step backwards for humanity,” he told the broadcaster France Inter. He described the bill – which must be approved by parliament – as a response to a historic moment. “It’s a symbolic way to show that France is an open country at a time when the United States is closing in on itself and authoritarian regimes are pursuing aggressive, repressive policies,” he said. “It’s about rediscovering the France of the Enlightenment, the one that in other times was capable of welcoming persecuted researchers from all over the world.” http://www...ademics?utm_source=chatgpt.com
Paramount Member	Sat Apr 19 05:36:22 "Most of the applications were sent using encrypted messaging, the university’s president, Eric Berton, wrote in the French newspaper Libération. “And with them came worrying, sometimes chilling, accounts from American researchers about the fate reserved for them by the Trump administration,” he said." It kinda sounds like that the USA is now Soviet or North Korea. Haha
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sat Apr 19 05:40:22 ”humanities to life sciences and the environment” Those sounds weighted on the useless side. Until we know what the make up is, we have no idea, the USA can be shedding some of the worst activist mind poisoners they have.
Pillz Member	Sat Apr 19 05:41:08 Perfect. The dead weight is gonna excise itself.
Average Ameriacn Member	Sat Apr 19 07:30:51 The whole liberal "elite" should leave the USA. All those "scientists" who want to ban our guns and meat must go. These guys cost us so much money. If they go then we can hire more border guards.
williamthebastard Member	Sat Apr 19 09:39:46 Oh dear, what with the humanities field of linguistics being one of the most important fields in LLM's and NLP, I guess the next generation of LLMs will come from France. And, obviously, life sciences such as Cell biology Bacteriology Virology Physiology Immunology Neuroscience Genetics Epidemiology Astrobiology Biochemistry etc. are all useless. Didnt Incel used to pretend he took a course in chemistry or something in 9th grade? And he doesnt even know what the life sciences are? Yeah, pull the other one rofl
williamthebastard Member	Sat Apr 19 09:42:16 "”life sciences and the environment” Those sounds weighted on the useless side." Incel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_life_sciences lol...
Pillz Member	Sat Apr 19 10:23:58 Oh, did you come back for another beating? I guess posting about people who actually graduated university must give you some sense of pride by association. Like a sports team. Someone you could never aspire to but can't stop projecting on.
williamthebastard Member	Sat Apr 19 10:24:45 ”All medikul syens an medikul teknolgy is teh usliss cos it dunt have shiny flashign lihgts an go boom liek Elons rokit to Mars! Elons rokits an tryin to impres tenage grils wit my iPhoen is teh only reel siens!" - Incel
Sam Adams Member	Sat Apr 19 10:44:02 "Those sounds weighted on the useless side. Until we know what the make up is, we have no idea, the USA can be shedding some of the worst activist mind poisoners they have. " Precisely. France is going to kick ass at the next transgender global warming conference.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sat Apr 19 10:46:46 Every word wtb writes is oozing with resentment and jealousy. Everything he undertakes is plagued by incompetence.
williamthebastard Member	Sat Apr 19 11:50:43 Anyway, got to finish these 3500 words on a drug trial before Monday, actors in the Life Sciences industries comprising about 90% of my clients. Its a good thing that my brain is considered a more reliable producer of documented information than all the world’s AIs and LLMs when it comes to useless stuff like matters of life and death in drug trials, medical studies, reports, etc etc., even though they have to pay people like me at least EUR 5k a month in wages - much like how they wont be turning over car traffic to Elons SDC for a long time yet.
williamthebastard Member	Sat Apr 19 11:57:07 Also, if all the LIfe Sciences start fleeing to Europe, the useless Life Sciences being "one of the two major branches of natural science", I might have to start employing people to keep up with the surge
Pillz Member	Sat Apr 19 11:58:13 Yes, that entire second paragraph is one single sentence. It contains 92 words, strung together without proper punctuation or syntactic control. This kind of sentence—long, meandering, and overly stuffed—is often called a run-on or ramble-sentence. It’s a telltale marker of someone trying to assert intellectual weight without clarity, and usually indicates either ego under duress or lack of disciplined thought structure.
williamthebastard Member	Sat Apr 19 12:00:56 ^Thinks science only means cooking meth in a camper van
Pillz Member	Sat Apr 19 12:02:25 My guy just bragged about his 'AI translation gig' in a 92 word run on sentence Humans are better than this wtb. I am not sure why you continue to masquerade as one.
williamthebastard Member	Sat Apr 19 12:04:51 "pillz Member Wed Feb 14 15:46:23 pillz Member Wed Feb 14 15:46:23 SO About 1 year after my last update, my ex broke up with me. It hit me very, very hard. Probably took me over a year to begin to get over that. About 1 year after i had started to get over it I tried to kill myself for unrelated reasons. A week after that I got kicked out by my parents & arrested for fighting with my dad." If a doctor told me I had less than a month left to live, I still wouldnt want to swap lives with Tweaky lol
Pillz Member	Sat Apr 19 12:07:05 I don't see any run on sentences there?
Pillz Member	Sat Apr 19 12:33:04 'And, obviously, [life sciences] such as' 'know what the [life sciences] are' Notice the lack of capitalization here. But when he wants to feel self important we get: 'actors in the [Life Sciences] industries' 'if all the [LIfe Sciences] start fleeing to Europe' 'useless [Life Sciences]' However in the same post natural sciences is left untouched. 'branches of [natural science]' Technically none of these should be capitalized... but lol @ his pathological need to self inflate his ego
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sat Apr 19 13:13:40 The high point if his life was 20 years ago dating some woman, that is why he keeps coming back to that post and the posts I made 20 years ago. He is stuck back there, when he was the cool kid in school.
williamthebastard Member	Sat Apr 19 13:15:20 teh medikul siens is teh usliss sosherlism an marxist woz a sataner! jus aks elon!
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sat Apr 19 13:40:50 Unintended irony from the guy who can only argue by not understanding what is said. To call it strawmanning would be to give too much credit.
williamthebastard Member	Fri Apr 25 09:04:04 100 million kroner to attract researchers to Norway Trump has cut budgets, laid off employees and pressured universities. Now Norway wants to attract researchers who have poor conditions abroad. The Research Council of Norway is launching a new scheme of 100 million kroner to attract international researchers to Norway. The scheme is not reserved for researchers from the US, but the acute situation in the US has accelerated the development of the scheme. CEO of the Research Council, Mari Sundli Tveit, is clear about what the background is. - It is particularly related to the situation in the US. Academic freedom is under pressure and funding is being cut, says Tveit. The new scheme allows Norwegian institutions to apply for support to attract international researchers. The work on the new scheme was both expanded and accelerated when the Trump administration introduced a sharp cut in American research in March. Read also French university snaps up American researchers One of the buildings of the University of Aix-Marseille Lists with "fjord" She is concerned about what she believes is an attack on research in the United States. – They operate with blacklists, i.e. forbidden words that cannot be used in research applications, says Tveit. http://www...-forskere-til-norge-1.17389749
Pillz Member	Fri Apr 25 09:06:35 Climate fakers and trans folklore specialists Maybe wtb will finally make a friend
williamthebastard Member	Fri Apr 25 09:07:47 "The medical sciences are useless. I know this because I prance about on UP pretending to be a medical expert when I literally dont even know what the life sciences are" - Incel
Pillz Member	Fri Apr 25 09:14:39 Can you post an announcement of your impending suicide for me?
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Apr 25 14:09:25 ”I don’t know how to translate black to Swedish” Well, now we know that william the incompetent is not trolling, he has legit difficulty reading and understanding the words.
murder Member	Sat Apr 26 02:59:07 "Can you post an announcement of your impending suicide for me?" You were better when you were CC.
Pillz Member	Sat Apr 26 05:37:50 That's the sort of uninformed opinion you make when you don't pay attention
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