Utopia Talk / Politics / Trump saves Afrikaners from genocide

murder Member	Mon May 12 13:16:10 Trump defends move to grant refugee status to Afrikaners The Trump administration is welcoming dozens of white South Africans into the U.S. as it terminates most of its non-white refugee admissions. President Donald Trump on Monday defended his decision to take in dozens of white South Africans who were granted refugee status as his administration limits refugee admissions for the rest of the world. A group of 49 Afrikaners claiming to face discrimination and economic hardship in their home country arrived to the U.S. on Monday morning after being awarded an expedited pathway into the country by the Trump administration under a new program established earlier this year. But the move has raised concerns among refugee groups as Trump has effectively blocked refugee admissions for people fleeing violence and famine from countries like Sudan, the Democratic Republic of Congo and Afghanistan. When pressed on why the white Afrikaners were granted refugee status over other communities, Trump said that the move has nothing to do with the group’s race. “It is a genocide that is taking place that you people don’t want to write about,” Trump said to reporters during a press briefing for the signing of his executive order to lower pharmaceutical prices Monday. “It’s a terrible thing that’s taking place and farmers are being killed. They happen to be white, but whether they are white or Black makes no difference to me.” Trump also said that while he’s expected to meet with South African leadership next week, he doesn’t know if he can attend “unless that situation is taken care of,” seemingly referring to Afrikaners’ claims of ongoing discrimination. The Afrikaners being granted refugee status represent a white ethnic minority within South Africa that previously pioneered a brutal apartheid regime in the country. The Trump administration has accused the current South African government of pushing racist, anti-white policies through affirmative action laws and a recently passed land expropriation law that Trump claims allows for the wrongful seizure of Afrikaners’ land. Chrispin Phiri, a spokesperson for South Africa’s Foreign Ministry, called the administration’s allegations “unfounded” in a statement released last week, saying they “do not meet the threshold of persecution required under domestic and international refugee law.” The White House did not immediately respond to POLITICO’s request for comment regarding a response to Phiri’s statement. Refugee groups have criticized what they view as the Trump administration prioritizing South Africans over people seeking refuge from war-torn countries, as vetting refugees in the U.S. has historically taken years. The group is being resettled through a program launched by an executive order Trump signed in February allowing for “the resettlement of Afrikaner refugees escaping government-sponsored race-based discrimination, including racially discriminatory property confiscation.” Individuals eligible for the program “must be of South African nationality, must be of Afrikaner ethnicity or be a member of a racial minority in South Africa, and must be able to articulate a past experience of persecution or fear of future persecution,” according to the Department of State’s website. http://www...-refugees-immigration-00342029
murder Member	Mon May 12 13:19:34 South Africa is not sending us their best. :o)
Sam Adams Member	Mon May 12 13:26:24 Trump is a hero.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Mon May 12 13:28:11 Finally
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon May 12 13:50:40 " A group of 49 Afrikaners claiming to face discrimination and economic hardship... ... "It is a genocide that is taking place that you people don’t want to write about,” Trump said " weird the refugees didn't mention the genocide part...
Paramount Member	Mon May 12 13:53:49 ” “It is a genocide that is taking place that you people don’t want to write about, It’s a terrible thing that’s taking place and farmers are being killed.” But if Trump is gonna resettle the white people then he will be guilty of ethnic cleansing. He will basically be helping South Africa in the genocide. It would be better if USA invaded South Africa and arrested the government so that the white people can live there safely.
williamthebastard Member	Mon May 12 14:05:02 Racism should be included in IQ tests as an indicator of chimp-level intelligence
Rugian Member	Mon May 12 14:28:42 Fucking dumbasses. There are plenty of examples of whites being massacred by black South Africans. http://youtu.be/d17vfJ7bUVo?si=wW8-Sa9txe_r-Wgh
mexicantardnado Member	Mon May 12 15:28:13 Duuur only examples duuur should matter. Duuuuur turn it around duuuur play the victim duuuuur these are not duuur apartheid supporters duuuur
murder Member	Mon May 12 19:41:30 More Afrikaners coming to the US to mooch off government benefits and refuse to pay taxes. See what I did there? ;o) -
Cherub Cow Member	Thu May 15 10:11:14 The response to this is yet another perfect example of the left's anti-White racism. The left is composed of psychopaths who do not belong in the West. Retarded psychopaths such as williamthecoward and tumblefaggot are not against racism — just racism against the Global South conquerors that they want to have destroy White people in a global slave revolt. Listen to this MSNBC psychopath basically saying that these White people deserve "racial justice" (genocide) because the black people who want to kill them deserve White people's stuff: ("There's no injustice here.") http://x.com/BasedSamParker/status/1922707174951731393
mexicantardnado Member	Thu May 15 11:56:39 Duuur I too love duuuuur to say duuur how duuuuur apartheid is duuuuur so important duuuuur the 14 duuuur words are duuuuur. Just like CC duuuuuur I too duuuuur am concerned duuuuuur that this duuuur racism is duuuur getting out duuuur hand.
Cherub Cow Member	Mon May 19 11:47:48 Good thread by Will Tanner making connections to Democrat policy and the Regime's narratives on South Africa: http://x.com/Will_Tanner_1/status/1924479875110347140 All of this should be pretty standard to people who have a memory longer than the Regime's daily agitprop, but we can recall that the 2020 BLM/Antifa insurrection sponsored by the DNC was designed on principles of the slave revolt, where dysgenic freaks are empowered to destroy society, invert morality, and become enslavers and genocidal maniacs out of resentment and their sad recognition that they are lesser people. The result of the slave revolt is always things such as Haiti, Rwanda, and the war criminal Nelson Mandela's actions in South Africa: mass killings of White Westerners, or people who seem Western, or people who actually work and create, or people who do not want to sustain a nest of parasites among them. This is "equity" as it is used in the West. It is meant to provoke a genocide of White Westerners so that the West can be destroyed. In the case of South Africa, the Hollywood agitprop that we have seen for decades is that "apartheid is bad", or that the South Africans "stole" that land, or that the black peoples of South Africa are "oppressed", but all of this is false. The reality is that White South Africans were facing masses of looters, destroyers, and slavish parasites. The White South Africans built South Africa, and Marxist policies stemming from the logic of the slave revolt have made it a project to destroy these White Westerners. The games that were played to disenfranchise, isolate, and provoke genocides against these White Westerners in South Africa merely became the strategies of "decolonization" which would later (today) be used in the greater West. It is the same Marxist framework of White genocide. This is why the Regime's visceral reaction to these South African refugees is so telling. They could not even ignore a few dozen White people being saved from a slave revolt's genocidal ambitions. To the destroyers, traitors, and enemies of/to the West, millions of Global South slaves can be imported to destroy the West, but a few dozen White Westerners are an unacceptable burden. There is, of course, a tactical reason to this on top of this simple genocidal hatred held by enemies of the West. They know that the Battle of Thermopylae was won in Spirit by fewer numbers of White Westerners, so even a few more defenders on the wall of the West is a threat to their plans of totalitarianism and genocide. Additionally, if the false Hollywood narrative of South Africa as "racist" and "white supremacist" is further examined in the current Zeitgeist, people will see that Western nations which opposed White South Africa were acting on behalf of international Bolshevism and the anti-White post-WWII order. Trump not simply leaving these South Africans to die could act as a reversal to the White genocide that the psychopathic left has for decades called "progress". Whereas, with international Bolshevism's plan of White genocide on a global scale so plainly laid by the rhetoric on this refugee issue, even normal people might just wonder why Marxists so unanimously insist on certain policies that "coincidentally" dispossess White people of the lands that they themselves cultivated, improved, and succeeded within.
mexicant Member	Mon May 19 11:50:23 *yawn*
obaminated Member	Mon May 19 17:35:28 South afric is the rape capital of the world i believe. Who do you think does the raping and who do you think is being raped?
Rugian Member	Mon May 19 17:45:15 "Who do you think does the raping and who do you think is being raped?" http://m.y...F0IGJsYXppbmcgc2FkZGxlcw%3D%3D
Cherub Cow Member	Wed May 21 10:16:41 "WHlTE South African Refugees ???" [FreedomToons; May 20th, 2025] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROhWhgfJYPQ
Cherub Cow Member	Thu May 22 03:54:57 "Can you turn the lights down? I want to show you something." http://x.com/RepMikeCollins/status/1925294637587050879 (Rhodesia-posting intensifies.)
Cherub Cow Member	Thu May 22 04:58:35 Good thread on Trump's thrashing of the media and of a genocidal leader regarding the genocide of White people in South Africa: http://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1925293404847841636 Official (full) White House video of the meeting: [White House; May 21st, 2025] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cy-HJ2wRZs
Paramount Member	Thu May 22 05:39:14 ” South afric is the rape capital of the world i believe.” You are wrong. According to Sweden Democrats, Zionists and maybe Nimatzo, it is Sweden.
Cherub Cow Member	Thu May 22 11:02:34 ermagerdz, Regime media says it was an "ambush" ermagerdz [Memology 101; May 22nd, 2025] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4FZY8_4y-U
obaminated Member	Thu May 22 15:52:45 Yeah, the democrat party gave their media associates the talking points.
murder Member	Thu May 22 17:12:31 It was easily predictable. Trump is publicly accusing you of genocide. How the fuck did you think it was going to go? I'm half surprised that he didn't have Ramaphosa arrested. Eventually these world leaders will get wise and stop agreeing to meet Trump in the US or hopefully at all. -
Rugian Member	Thu May 22 18:18:52 " or hopefully at all" Actively rooting for the US to fail is a great way to establish your pro-American bonafides. And you wonder why Dems cant win elections. Your side literally hates America.
murder Member	Thu May 22 19:29:01 I don't need to establish any pro-America bonafides. And I certainly hate your half of America.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 19:47:44 Leftist hate machine never rests
Cherub Cow Member	Thu May 22 20:19:37 [murder (retard; left-wing dogma bot)]: "Eventually these world leaders will get wise and stop agreeing to meet Trump in the US or hopefully at all." Do we see the left's consistent principle here? Just like williamthecoward and the cowardly multis, their solution is non-engagement and bad faith resentment-discharge. Even South African President Cyril Ramaphosa in that same Oval Office meeting knew the folly of this (see the full length video). Ramaphosa cited the terrorist Nelson Mandela as a "good", but Ramaphosa at least knew that a key to Mandela's post-prison success was that there needed to be a dialogue to prevent Rwandan calamities. Mandela could not simply appeal to the far left genocidal murderfags and resentful destroyers; he needed a coalition, even with his supposed "enemies". And this was a decision which was not a mere pathos argument or inexplicable kindness. This was practical — even to an evil Marxist such as Mandela. The simple fact is that if the left engages in a slave revolt, their own people will be killed «en masse». I have cited the numbers in UP many times, but it is always the slave armies that lose the most people. Just think of the Battle of Thermopylae. Slave armies would pride themselves on killing some 4,000 Spartans and Greeks, but the hive collective ignores the 20,000 of their own that it cost them. The slave armies of WWII defeated Germany, but while Germany lost more than 6 million of its people ("[Success! we beat the nazis!]"), the slave armies of the Soviet Union alone lost some 25 million. This is why the low-IQ Outer Party murderfag proles are being elevated into positions of power in the West. They lack this basic insight, and their resentment exceeds their practical wisdom. Their strategy will result in their *personal* annihilation — not just the annihilation of the collective behind which they hide. Slave revolts always underestimate how many of them will die. Always it is a Pyrrhic Victory. Always. There has been no exception a single time in history. This is such an observable truth that it is literally a Biblical lesson. But these useful idiots of the left — posting 60 threads about Trump ( http://utopiaforums.com/boardthread?id=politics&thread=94516 ) — have been trained to bring about their own obliteration. Trump provoked a discussion that the media has avoided because the media wants the mass death of a slave revolt. Even now, their media response is to deny that this is a White genocide and deny that the far-left party in South Africa is calling for the mass killing of White people. Discourse with Trump would prevent this mass death. The murderfags do not want this, and so they should never know power in this life or any other.
williamthebastard Member	Sun May 25 03:44:09 Naturally, he was lying when he ambushed Ramaphosa with pics of murdered afrikaans "Trump's image of dead 'white farmers' came from Reuters footage in Congo, not South Africa" http://www...o-not-south-africa-2025-05-22/
williamthebastard Member	Sun May 25 03:52:43 I mean, the entire world knew that already, including Trumpers (who dont care), we just didnt know where the photos were actually from in the real world
www.yeswecansong.com Member	Sun May 25 04:47:28 Why is there even this discussion about South Africa? Because the South African Musk whispered it in Trump's ear. The senile Trump can now be steered in any direction. President Trump can no longer defend himself against his whisperers, he is just an empty vessel.
williamthebastard Member	Sun May 25 05:45:21 He needs to invade Greenland to stop the Danish genocide of eskimoes
williamthebastard Member	Sun May 25 05:47:04 He could easily make that claim and Maga would be all on board, because they dont just tolerate his lies, they enjoy and welcome them.
Cherub Cow Member	Wed Jun 04 07:11:15 The comments under this Imgur post show what we've seen with UP's leftists, which is that left-wing anger about this small amount of South African refugees is driven entirely by anti-White hatred, resentment, and the left's intentional use of the Great Replacement (intentional White genocide): "White Lives Matter" (TheTaoOfRob; June 3rd, 2025) (463 upvotes) http://imgur.com/gallery/white-lives-matter-iRoFZRB What is telling here is that none of the comments pass even the most basic standards of reversal/self-reflection. That is, none of them use even the small amount of IQ necessary to ask, "What if the roles were reversed?" • "So it wasn't about refugees at all it was just about skin tone... gotcha." • "Why don't these "refugees" go back to The Netherlands?" • "Just so folks know, religious Afrikaners tend to be Dutch Christian Refirned and the 2 places where those Dutch immigrants landed during the 19th Century were Western Michigan, around Grand Rapids (Betsy DeVos is one of those ancestors) and in Western Iowa. They are generally very, very conservative socially, politically, and religiously." • "Oh look at the happy smiles on these pre-approved klan members. How quaint." • "MAGA sure dont mind refugees if they are white.....kinda makes you think maybe theres soemthing to eb said about that..." • "Not that im trying to be conspiratorial, but a bunch of racist white folks being flown in as "refugees" sounds like a hell of a way to fly in like minded, able bodied men and set them up at least 3 or 4 to a majortity of the states to yanno...*see what happens*." • "Because America needed MORE white racists..." For low-IQ people such as williamthecoward or Dukhat, these are the sorts of comments you'd expect to see upvoted. After all, what is wrong with these comments? Are these things not "true" (from the left-wing perspective)? They legitimately do not have the brainpower to see the issue here. So, the first comment, for instance, is capable of seeing "skin tone" when it is a matter of a small amount of White South Africans, but were they capable of this when millions of "Global South" invaders and economic parasites were allowed into the West to systematically bring about its destruction under "globalism" and the lie of "muh GDP"? No, of course not. (Marxists even despise "color blindness".) Similarly, the 2nd to last comment (above) is capable of understanding that it *is* possible to change the political landscape of a nation under a racialist strategy of "[flying] in like minded, able bodied men". This is, in fact, the Democrats' own stated policy of "demographics is destiny", wherein massive demographic shifts can be used to displace White Westerners, change the electoral landscape, and effect anti-Western policies (e.g., effecting the DNC's Marxist goals of a "popular vote" (mob rule), abolishment of the Supreme Court, abolishment of the Electoral College, abolishment of the Senate, expanded statehood, open borders). But this fact of leftist policy is cushioned by the Celebration Parallax, wherein mass-importing the "Global South" to liquidate the power of White Westerners is "not happening" if you disagree with it but is "a good thing" if you agree with it. Hence the next cushion for the leftist mind: *if* a leftist has the IQ to self-reflect on the asymmetry of these sorts of comments, doublethink takes over to evaporate the gains of any cognitive expenditure. In the case of the Celebration Parallax, the truth "is" and "is not" depending only on whether or not the leftist slave revolt can advance with truth or lies respectively. If in an echo chamber such as Imgur, the plain truth behind the curtains is allowed, which usually means open anti-White hatred, open calls for violence/genocide against White people, and open calls for the destruction of the West, its people, its principles, and its founding doctrines. If in a combative/mixed space, lies are preferred, which usually means denial, evasion, and mass-produced Regime-approved talking points (sebbish tactics, williamthecoward's meltdowns, etc.). The common midwit leftist, being a useful idiot of Regime power, does not even know that this mental switching is occurring — he simply adjusts mental processes to "win" in the moment with no thought of internal contradiction, the past, or the future. For most of these midwits, this simply means blocking, muting, and/or ignoring anyone who is not a leftist so that cognitive dissonance is avoided altogether, which is why leftism thrives only in conditions of heavy censorship, self-imposed illiteracy, and propaganda. The leftist brain must be formatted to live in simulation; reality itself dissolves all Party programming, and the leftist fears a loss of the Party's signal. Where the leftist must justify this open anti-White hatred, the intelligentsia provides him slave doctrines in the modern vocabulary. This is where justifications of a White genocide are given through phrases such as "equity for the Global South", "oppression" narratives, "post-colonialism" ("post" means "critical of" for the intelligentsia; hence "critical of colonialism") narratives, and narrative guides for propaganda. Of the last point, this is why, for instance, I was able to produce the strict models of "sustainability" propaganda years ago, and these have remained robust even as people such as "Critical Drinker" and Carl Benjamin struggle to put the pieces together: all of these models are taught as "Critical Theory", which is itself designed to effect these slave doctrines in agitprop. The Party replaces creativity with Dogma and Faith. For instance, you will never see a glimmer of creativity in anything that tumbleweed says ever again, yet he was known to be creative prior to about 2016. This is the tragedy of many such leftists. The last cushion for the leftist mind occurs in cases of slightly higher IQ (not to be confused with a deep intelligence, which is not necessary). This is where the contradictions are understood but are nevertheless allowed to persist entirely for their utility as deception. This is the role of "O'Brien" in "1984", who maintains absolute Party Dogma despite being fluent in all of the Party's contradictions. He can use plain reason to reveal that yes, in fact, the Party is ideologically inconsistent, but the purpose of the Party apparatchik at this level is in intuiting the opposition so as to destroy it, hence why O'Brien's task is to empathize with Winston while destroying him. In other words, the "O'Brien" apparatchiks know that the Party exists in a web of lies, but the Party is not meant as a benevolent truth-based organization and is not meant for a worker's "Utopia" — that is merely the false conclusion of the prole, who (wrongly) believes that at the heights of the Inner Party there "must" be some benevolent goal. The prole "must" believe this because if the prole realizes *both* that he is a coward *and* that he is contributing to lies, to his own annihilation, and to the annihilation of all good in society, then he may no longer be able to convince himself to persist — even as the discharge of his resentment is promised by the Party as consolation. The useful idiot leftist wants always to die and disappear into nothingness, but the Party keeps the leftist alive with this promise of the shared suicide of collectivism. Or, in short, the Regime's useful idiots are merely meant to "win" on behalf of the Party, the Party's goal is White genocide, and anything which effects White genocide is therefore ideologically consistent to the leftist. This accounts for all lies, all failed principle-based ideological consistency, and all hypocrisy. These society-destroying leftists do not deny White genocide because they are merely ignorant or misinformed; they deny it only in the moment when denial allows the genocide to persist.
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