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Rugian
Member Wed Jun 04 10:13:51
Report says California high speed project has ‘no viable path’ to on-time completion

WASHINGTON — Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy this morning released a report proclaiming there is “no viable path” to complete the California High Speed Rail project on time or on budget, setting the stage for the cancellation of $4 billion in federal grants.

Given that the original plan called for completion in 2020 at a cost of $33 billion, and that Republican legislators in the House of Representatives said last year that the estimated cost of that the still-unfinished project is up to $128 billion, this is less than surprising.

The 315-page report and cover letter stems from Duffy’s February announcement that Federal Railroad Administration would investigate the California High Speed Rail Authority’s compliance with the terms of the project’s federal grants [see “FRA to examine California high speed project,” Trains News Wire, Feb. 20, 2025]. It includes what the report calls nine key findings that show the project has not met those terms. A U.S. Department of Transportation press release says the California agency has 37 days to respond, after which any unspent funds from previously awarded grants could be rescinded and used elsewhere.

The report’s findings of non-compliance include three dealing with an inability to begin service on the Early Operating Segment, or EOS, by 2033. Others deal with a current funding gap of at least $7 billion; the state’s method of funding; a missed deadline for equipment procurement; the number of change orders in the project; overrepresentation of potential riders; and an inadequate contingency budget.

http://www...le-path-to-on-time-completion/

TheChildren
Member Wed Jun 04 10:44:08
duuuuhhhhhhh

if only china wuld have proposed hsr buildin 4 u...

oh wait, they did! in 2010 ish!

OWNEEEEDDDD!!!!!

TheChildren
Member Wed Jun 04 10:45:05
but dunt u worry, hypaloop king got u!

u be ridin faster than light soon in them pods coated with virbrium technologiez

fastest and most modernistic transport in da world!!!

u be nr 1 again soon! HOOO HAAA! MURICA!!!

TheChildren
Member Wed Jun 04 10:59:54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w2lo5h3D5E

look at how fast, dat speed!!

dat comfort!

TheChildren
Member Wed Jun 04 11:03:59
i wonda wut is da reward 4 lyin.

is those 2 gonna put on there resumes how they sat in a fake pod and smiled like they enjoy dat shit with those tiny windows thats knee high where they cant see shit coz its literally knee high

or how they is alrdy know it was gonna go banktrupt coz da whole company was build on lies?

Paramount
Member Wed Jun 04 11:49:07
USA is broke. They can’t build rails.

Sam Adams
Member Wed Jun 04 13:50:17
Why would you spend money on trains in this day and age? Theres self driving electric cars around the corner and those cities are already linked by much cheaper flights if you want to go the public transit route.

TheChildren
Member Wed Jun 04 14:04:35
daaaaayuuum thats some high level cope rofl

Rugian
Member Wed Jun 04 14:10:05
Some rail systems are worthwhile. Subways and commuter rail might never turn a profit, but provided they are reliable, well-maintained, and run at a certain level of frequency, thry can be effective at reducing urban traffic congestion.

Inter-city/state rail though? Yeah, just fly. Planes are faster and cheaper. White elephants like CHSR are just sops for environmentalist hippies who blindly believe that trains = green snd therefore are good. No, they actually suck ass and a massive waste of money.

Rugian
Member Wed Jun 04 14:13:38
And as CHSR proves, they literally cant be done in regulation-heavy states like CA, where they get buried by crushing weight of idiotic bureaucracy and endless review periods.

China can actually do high speed rail because they dont give a single fuck about bulldozing everything along the route, rights of property holder and stakeholders be damned.

TheChildren
Member Wed Jun 04 14:14:46
yeaaa. guess wut?

we got BOTH

BOYTUF

dat word is alien in ur world probably. but some countries can have BOOOTH

!!! OWNED!

TheChildren
Member Wed Jun 04 14:20:42
so at wut point in time u gettin that hypaloop ny la in 30 min ??

2949?

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Rugian Member	Wed Jun 04 10:13:51 Report says California high speed project has ‘no viable path’ to on-time completion WASHINGTON — Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy this morning released a report proclaiming there is “no viable path” to complete the California High Speed Rail project on time or on budget, setting the stage for the cancellation of $4 billion in federal grants. Given that the original plan called for completion in 2020 at a cost of $33 billion, and that Republican legislators in the House of Representatives said last year that the estimated cost of that the still-unfinished project is up to $128 billion, this is less than surprising. The 315-page report and cover letter stems from Duffy’s February announcement that Federal Railroad Administration would investigate the California High Speed Rail Authority’s compliance with the terms of the project’s federal grants [see “FRA to examine California high speed project,” Trains News Wire, Feb. 20, 2025]. It includes what the report calls nine key findings that show the project has not met those terms. A U.S. Department of Transportation press release says the California agency has 37 days to respond, after which any unspent funds from previously awarded grants could be rescinded and used elsewhere. The report’s findings of non-compliance include three dealing with an inability to begin service on the Early Operating Segment, or EOS, by 2033. Others deal with a current funding gap of at least $7 billion; the state’s method of funding; a missed deadline for equipment procurement; the number of change orders in the project; overrepresentation of potential riders; and an inadequate contingency budget. http://www...le-path-to-on-time-completion/
TheChildren Member	Wed Jun 04 10:44:08 duuuuhhhhhhh if only china wuld have proposed hsr buildin 4 u... oh wait, they did! in 2010 ish! OWNEEEEDDDD!!!!!
TheChildren Member	Wed Jun 04 10:45:05 but dunt u worry, hypaloop king got u! u be ridin faster than light soon in them pods coated with virbrium technologiez fastest and most modernistic transport in da world!!! u be nr 1 again soon! HOOO HAAA! MURICA!!!
TheChildren Member	Wed Jun 04 10:59:54 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w2lo5h3D5E look at how fast, dat speed!! dat comfort!
TheChildren Member	Wed Jun 04 11:03:59 i wonda wut is da reward 4 lyin. is those 2 gonna put on there resumes how they sat in a fake pod and smiled like they enjoy dat shit with those tiny windows thats knee high where they cant see shit coz its literally knee high or how they is alrdy know it was gonna go banktrupt coz da whole company was build on lies?
Paramount Member	Wed Jun 04 11:49:07 USA is broke. They can’t build rails.
Sam Adams Member	Wed Jun 04 13:50:17 Why would you spend money on trains in this day and age? Theres self driving electric cars around the corner and those cities are already linked by much cheaper flights if you want to go the public transit route.
TheChildren Member	Wed Jun 04 14:04:35 daaaaayuuum thats some high level cope rofl
Rugian Member	Wed Jun 04 14:10:05 Some rail systems are worthwhile. Subways and commuter rail might never turn a profit, but provided they are reliable, well-maintained, and run at a certain level of frequency, thry can be effective at reducing urban traffic congestion. Inter-city/state rail though? Yeah, just fly. Planes are faster and cheaper. White elephants like CHSR are just sops for environmentalist hippies who blindly believe that trains = green snd therefore are good. No, they actually suck ass and a massive waste of money.
Rugian Member	Wed Jun 04 14:13:38 And as CHSR proves, they literally cant be done in regulation-heavy states like CA, where they get buried by crushing weight of idiotic bureaucracy and endless review periods. China can actually do high speed rail because they dont give a single fuck about bulldozing everything along the route, rights of property holder and stakeholders be damned.
TheChildren Member	Wed Jun 04 14:14:46 yeaaa. guess wut? we got BOTH BOYTUF dat word is alien in ur world probably. but some countries can have BOOOTH !!! OWNED!
TheChildren Member	Wed Jun 04 14:20:42 so at wut point in time u gettin that hypaloop ny la in 30 min ?? 2949?
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