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murder
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Wed Nov 26 19:20:37
... class. :oP

tl;dr version: The new class of frigates was behind schedule and over budget. Song as old as time.


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Constellation Class Frigate Program Cancelled By Navy Secretary

https://ww...ellation-class-frigate-program
murder
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Wed Nov 26 19:22:03

Now we can finally get to work on the next class of ship that we'll have to cancel for being over budget and falling behind schedule.

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Rugian
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Wed Nov 26 20:16:15
What the Christ is this announcement video?

http://x.com/SECNAV/status/1993406826520756327

I guess if you needed any more proof that the Secretary of Defense comes from a background as a TV star...
murder
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Wed Nov 26 20:26:45

We replaced the frigates with a strategic framework.

https://xcancel.com/SECNAV/status/1993406826520756327

For those that can't or won't access former twitter.

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murder
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Wed Nov 26 20:32:50

It's funny that we chose a new class of frigate instead of building more Arleigh Burke destroyers to save money.

How much did we just spend on nothing?

They are going to complete the first two ships in the class that will then serve no purpose. They will end up decaying next to the Littoral Combat Ships that we pissed away tens of billions of dollars on.

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Rugian
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Wed Nov 26 20:40:28
"They are going to complete the first two ships in the class that will then serve no purpose."

Uh...why do you think that?
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Pillz
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Wed Nov 26 21:07:30
Ship design is in a weird place rn

Realistically the best investment is in small carrier for aerial and naval drone deployment st this point...

Everything else should just be dedicated aegis vessels... But since anti drone measures are weak aegis is in a near term bind.

Still, until rail guns and lasers that's the best play and drones will continue to persist
jergul
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Wed Nov 26 23:10:17
I hear new oak planks for the USN Constitution are behind schedule and over budget.
Sam Adams
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Thu Nov 27 01:58:42
Constitution can hold her own like she has for the last 230 years.
Rugian
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Thu Nov 27 02:22:45
Been a while since I've seen her. Charlestown isn't the worst place to spend an afternoon, might head up there.
jergul
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Thu Nov 27 03:01:41
2 major repair periods in the last 15 years? No wonder you navy has trouble if that is what you call "holding its own".
Sam Adams
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Thu Nov 27 07:17:05
When 230 years old you be look as good you will not.

Don't be jealous jergul. Be impressed.
jergul
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Thu Nov 27 12:35:08
We have vessels 1000 years old. So, not impressed.

As the repairs suggest, the only original parts that remain are brass fittings and large cast iron items.

But my point was actually that behind schedule and over cost might as well be the navy slogan. As two back-to-back multiyear reconstructions of the Constitution clearly indicate.
Sam Adams
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Thu Nov 27 17:51:48
”We have vessels 1000 years old"

Lol no you don't.

”the only original parts that remain are brass fittings and large cast iron items.”

Well her keel and major wooden ribs as well.

Besides most of the atoms in you as a child are gone now. Are you not you?
Forwyn
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Thu Nov 27 18:10:02
A little longship a fraction of the size that still looks like shit

http://www...red%20in%201903%20in%20Norway.
Sam Adams
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Thu Nov 27 18:13:51
Ya that's not a vessel. That's archeologists find. Also about the size of one of constitutions rowboats.
jergul
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Thu Nov 27 20:38:40
The type of ship that discovered America. It is called having a history. You may want to read up on it.
murder
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Thu Nov 27 22:04:51

"Uh...why do you think that?"

Why do I think they will have no purpose? Because that's what happens to ships that are obsolete. They will not equip it properly because it's an unnecessary expense. Every dollar spent on them is a dollar not available for the next class of ships that will be cancelled.

They will eventually get pawned off on some tiny country who is trying to gain favor with the US.

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Pillz
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Fri Nov 28 00:29:07
Barbarians shouldn't boast about history
earthpig
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Fri Nov 28 01:40:55
Larger numbers of smaller ships is what we should be shifting to. I worry about our carriers and amphibious assault ships.
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