Utopia Talk / Politics / International diplamacy in 2026

Rugian rank	Mon Jan 19 15:55:24 A text message sent from the PMs of Norway and Finland to Donald Trump: "Dear Mr president, dear Donald –on the contact across the Atlantic – on Greenland, Gaza, Ukraine – and your tariff announcement yesterday. You know our position on these issues. But we believe we all should work to take this down and de-escalate – so much is happening around us where we need to stand together. We are proposing a call with you later today – with both of us or separately – give us a hint of what you prefer! Best – Alex and Jonas." ---- Trump's response: “Dear Jonas: Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America. Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China, and why do they have a “right of ownership” anyway? There are no written documents, it’s only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there, also. I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States. The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland. Thank you! President DJT” ....
jergul rank	Mon Jan 19 15:57:10 Did you not reverse the order. Donald said the first thing, then Jonas and Alex responded with the second?
Rugian rank	Mon Jan 19 15:59:53 Jergul The Guardian claims that Norway/Finland sent their message first, and Trump responded less than 30 minutes later. https://ww...block-696e21da8f089bd7efd0b3c1
jergul rank	Mon Jan 19 16:03:29 You are correct. I checked the original source (again) that the guardian cited. I had misread it the first time around (VG is a paper I check every day). Sorry about that :).
Rugian rank	Mon Jan 19 16:05:36 Hah, no problem. Might be time for me to find an apartment outside of a major population center/military target, I think.
Pillz rank	Mon Jan 19 16:21:49 Watching rugian turn into cuckhat in real time is surreal
Rugian rank	Mon Jan 19 16:36:07 Pillz Even if you want to ague that Trump is just engaging in some Art of the Deal hardball negotiations to further US interests, the whole "you didn't give me the Peace Prize and I'm really upset about that" part doesn't exactly give off alpha male vibes.
murder rank	Mon Jan 19 20:29:14 It's 1:30 pm GMT-5 on Monday Jan 19, 2026 ... and Donald Trump still hasn't been removed from office for corruption or unfitness. -
murder rank	Mon Jan 19 20:32:34 The worst thing about all of this is that European countries keep looking for ways to appease Donald Trump. Not only have they learned nothing from history, but apparently none of them ever successfully dealt with a bully growing up. I bet all of these guys are still sending their lunch money to their bullies from their school years. -
Daemon rank	Mon Jan 19 20:34:28 You Americans know that in the end the mad king is your problem, not ours. Do what is needed, what is right.
Pillz rank	Mon Jan 19 20:44:17 You all have the memories of gold fish and none of your opinions are valid, let alone worth the caloric expenditure to express. Daemon, being a German sub human, in particular, has no place to speak. Why don't you do what's right and save your nation from socialism, you pea brained mistake?
murder rank	Mon Jan 19 20:45:11 Not really. If Trump is allowed to take Greenland by force or threat of force or a "sale" under duress ... he will not be satisfied. He will simply want more and then more still. Iceland and Canada are in danger, and Trump may simply decide that the oceans are his and force everyone to pay him a toll use them. -
Pillz rank	Mon Jan 19 20:47:12 Someone is going to have to explain to me how this is even out of character for the United States, which historically does whatever it wants? How do Europeans feel about the fact more of their citizens died in Iraq than will die defending Greenland? But it's OK. We forget all the stupid and asinine actions by the US that weren't MUH TRUMP so we can pretend he is just operating in a vacuum. Greenland is gonna be American and nothing Europe can do is ever gonna prevent that.
Pillz rank	Mon Jan 19 20:49:09 Canada isn't in danger - we have the hope of being saved from our own trash government of CCP agents and collaborators by Trump. And Canadians are much more receptive than foreigners seem to recognize.
murder rank	Mon Jan 19 20:50:11 Poor Seb is under the delusion that "Europe" is going to do anything ... as if Europe wasn't a collection of conflicting interests and shifting politics. To whatever extent any country in Europe can muster the resolve to push back against Trump ... other European countries will frustrate and undermine them.
murder rank	Mon Jan 19 20:54:09 "Someone is going to have to explain to me how this is even out of character for the United States, which historically does whatever it wants?" If the US historically did whatever it wanted, you'd be speaking English. American English. :oP And you'd have less rights than the people of Puerto Rico. -
Pillz rank	Mon Jan 19 20:57:20 Considering most of your citizens can't even speak English..nor can puerto Ricans... Thats amusing.
Pillz rank	Mon Jan 19 20:58:14 I guess the numbers sway in your favour if you concede blacks and women are 1/3 of a person though, which is a compromise I can make
murder rank	Mon Jan 19 20:58:26 "Canada isn't in danger - we have the hope of being saved from our own trash government of CCP agents and collaborators by Trump." Enjoy being American Samoa. You don't even know what you're asking for. -
tumbleweed rank	Mon Jan 19 20:58:55 we have the added derangement of failing to get the Peace prize (which the Norway gov't doesn't choose) making him sour on peace... but let's not gloss over the continued derangement of him actually believing he's ended 8 wars & the derangement of seeking Greenland w/ threats & coercion... who exactly is going to be happy even if he succeeds... an incredibly clearly mentally deranged lawless idiot child as 'president' & NO talk of 25th amendment/impeachment going on... so fucking bizarre
murder rank	Mon Jan 19 21:00:11 "I guess the numbers sway in your favour if you concede blacks and women are 1/3 of a person though, which is a compromise I can make" You'll be the new niggers. -
murder rank	Mon Jan 19 21:09:15 "an incredibly clearly mentally deranged lawless idiot child as 'president' & NO talk of 25th amendment/impeachment going on... so fucking bizarre" I would love to believe that the GOP will never recover from this ... but it took all of 2 years for the GOP to retake the House after the insurrection, and 4 years for them to retake the Senate and the Presidency. This nation is good and fucked, and we'll both die of old age before it rights itself again ... unless it collapses first, which is a real possibility. -
Pillz rank	Mon Jan 19 21:13:01 Let it he henceforth be recorded that murder is a Xi supporter and thinks, like our Prime Minister, that the CCP is the ideal model to follow.
Pillz rank	Mon Jan 19 21:13:32 Not hyperbole, BTW. Wrote a whole book about it.
Daemon rank	Tue Jan 20 19:05:25 "Daemon, being a German sub human" Pillz, you need to overcome the horrors of your childhood and grow up. The way you're behaving now, anyone can see right away that there's something wrong with you. That's why your insults have no effect; at best, they might elicit pity for you. However, I used up all my pity for broken internet creatures like you decades ago.
Pillz rank	Tue Jan 20 19:13:09 I'm going to laugh every time one of your relatives is raped, and you can't stop the laughing or the raping. Rofl
murder rank	Tue Jan 20 19:21:27 "You Americans know that in the end the mad king is your problem, not ours. Do what is needed, what is right." The problem is it isn't just the mad king. He has the support of almost the entire GOP and roughly half the electorate ... though at the moment only ~ 35% are willing to admit it. The only thing that would end without Trump would be some of the noise. -
tumbleweed rank	Tue Jan 20 20:09:31 Trump is the source of much of the crazy, so a lot would end, he has the GOP as his cowed cult, but he's the one planting the crazy ideas in their minds if aliens plucked Trump off the planet right after election day, nobody would be threatening anyone over Greenland (nobody ran on it, including him, nobody concluded it was necessary for national security... just he suddenly did the month after election)
murder rank	Wed Jan 21 06:42:07 ^ this is how Democrats got us here. "Surely most Republicans aren't insane!"
tumbleweed rank	Wed Jan 21 10:00:34 they're crazy as he made them so... & actively worked to get any sane ones removed from office, & loyal mindless cultists elected sooo much of the crazy emanates straight from him, nobody else would've refused to concede the election (& still be spreading poisonous lies to this day), w/ nearly daily crazy all the way to the crazy w/ Greenland now, nobody else would be ruining all relations on a crusade nobody is asking for he is uniquely insane & unfit & no idea how it's not noticed by every person, every second
williamthebastard rank	Wed Jan 21 14:33:04 Trump isnt the problem, he’s air without his millions of ludicrously extremist american voters who have unionized themselves via the internet without leaving the couch and their bowl of chips. These fat, ugly, shockingly stupid, viciously cruel Veruca Salt brats who have been created by generations of terrible parents. “Oh Billy Bob, please dont stab Fido with those scissors. Oh Billy Bob, please dont stab Fido with those scissors again. Oh Billy Bob, please dont stab Fido for the 30th time with those scissors. Oh Billy Bob, Fido is dead. Would you like a new Fido?” Billy Bob == Sam Oddams, Cherub Filth, Rugian, Forcunt, etc
murder rank	Wed Jan 21 21:55:07 "they're crazy as he made them so" Trump isn't magic. He has no mind control powers. Trump did not rot their souls, he exposed the rot. -
tumbleweed rank	Wed Jan 21 23:24:38 he seemingly -does- have mind control powers, given how many voters think he's honest & fit for office & believe his completely evidence free obvious bullshit lies just this episode of threatening tariffs across Europe for Denmark not surrendering territory being treated as normal/acceptable negotiating shows it how people weirdly accept him claiming 100s of times for years that countries emptied prisons & mental institutions into our countries (no evidence of this ever), & that he ended 8 wars, & that somehow bragging about passing a cognitive test is normal & saying he fell in love w/ Kim Jong Un & telling Pence to reject electoral votes & imprisoning people not even accused of crimes in El Salvador prisons & holding a contest of 'the x people who give me the most money get dinner w/ me & a private white house tour' & taking hundreds of classified docs & refusing to return them, offering complete idiocy or proven false statements as only defense & yelling 'they're eating the dogs' at a presidential debate w/ ZERO examples of it, having army release CA water from a reservoir w/ belief it would stop/help w/ fires when NOBODY was asking for it & the water didn't even flow to right area, & constant false claims about mass voter fraud being found, still going on to this day (ZERO ever true, ZERO)... yadda yadda i have some threads on it it's fucking crazy
tumbleweed rank	Wed Jan 21 23:33:56 i think i heard 1 republican (Tillis) suggesting impeachment if Trump invaded Greenland militarily (as he fucking insanely was suggesting he might) it should have been everyone, it should have been top story how completely lawless & insane he was behaving the news/people are just getting used to it (or the news maybe just enjoys it for more ratings & doesn't want to see him get removed from office even though incredibly CLEARLY should be)
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