Utopia Talk / Politics / So we are going to war with Iran?

Im better then you rank	Wed Feb 25 20:10:31 No debate, no votes from Congress, no accountability. Most military assets in Middle East since Iraq war. Also no clear demands or realistic goals other than regime change.
tumbleweed rank	Wed Feb 25 20:31:23 it's His way (also his golf buddy w/ no diplomatic experience who's now seemingly our only 'diplomat' said "They’re probably a week away from having industrial-grade bombmaking material" on Faux... remember when Trump said he completely obliterated their nuclear program & anything suggesting otherwise was fake news...)
Sam Adams rank	Wed Feb 25 20:34:45 "no votes from Congress" Not voting to stop it is tacit approval. "Also no clear demands or realistic goals other than regime change." Regime change is both clear and realistic.
obaminated rank	Wed Feb 25 20:50:37 Yeah regime change is the clear goal. This only goes bad for trump if iran sinks some of our armada. Not saying that won't happen but it's very unlikely, far more likely is we topple the regime and help prop up a nonislamic pro west government.
Sam Adams rank	Wed Feb 25 21:07:41 The odds of them sinking a ship is quite low. They might not get a single plane. The highest chance of this going wrong is to hit the ayatolla but not quite pull off the regime change, or to replace him with chaos and terrorism. The Iranian people are significantly more educated and intelligent than the average Muslim though so odds are this will be closer to postwar Germany and Japan rather than say other interventions but it still might not work. We shall see.
Im better then you rank	Wed Feb 25 21:19:24 "Not voting to stop it is tacit approval." Its a tacit sign of weakness and frankly cowardness. "Regime change is both clear and realistic." If you listen to Trump and war hawks this has something to do with nuclear deal, missile program, human rights, or protesters. Change to what exactly? The get bombed enough the protesters take over.
Sam Adams rank	Wed Feb 25 21:57:36 Install the crown prince
Forwyn rank	Wed Feb 25 22:22:57 Lul. After Syria and Libya, Democrats are now crying about Congressional approval again.
murder rank	Thu Feb 26 01:13:46 It's only war if they can hit back. So no. -
Rugian rank	Thu Feb 26 01:24:10 Congress is utterly irrelevant. When it's controlled by the president's party, it's a pure rubberstamp for the president. When it's controlled by the opposition to the president, it engages in theatrics to show how much they oppose the president without doing anything to actually check him. This current gaggle of Trump dicksuckers in Congress are especially pathetic in terms of their blind fealty to the president at the expense of their own constitutional powers, but this is a bipartisan problem and one that only gets worse with each successive administration.
williamthebastard rank	Thu Feb 26 10:20:08 One day the US will pick on someone 1/10th of their size. They wont like how that ends.
Average Ameriacn rank	Thu Feb 26 11:59:36 And we will keep their oil!
jergul rank	Thu Feb 26 13:16:24 Regime change is clear and realistic? You cant even identify the regime. The cleric you want to kill is a moral authority with the legal framework to block regime initiatives like say developing a nuclear arsenal. He wrote a Fatwa forbidding it. Not terribly unlike how your supreme court blocks stuff and writes legal and moral justifications for that. Fixating on a dude pushing towards 100. Iran is actually a republic, so you might want to mention their president more in these imaginary target lists.
murder rank	Thu Feb 26 15:35:28 It doesn't matter. Iran is turning bitch. -
Sam Adams rank	Thu Feb 26 17:35:00 Jergul you are deluded.
murder rank	Thu Feb 26 19:30:28 It's nighttime in Tehran. Is tonight the night? -
Average Ameriacn rank	Thu Feb 26 20:07:05 They may retaliate with sleeper agents. Coordinate with your neighbors, patrol the streets, and be alert for strangers wearing turbans.
murder rank	Thu Feb 26 20:57:46 No, they would try to blend in. Be alert for strangers who are trying to blend in. -
TheChildren rank	Thu Feb 26 20:59:03 ww3 2 begin this weekend? friday is last day of talks aint it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ic8wLJnC8c them fatamies 22 have been leaked. if they brought out fatamies 22s...then we shuld undastand da time is 5 min be4 12
TheChildren rank	Sat Feb 28 08:49:46 it has begun!!! https://ww...n-strikes-middle-east-oil.html holy shit
TheChildren rank	Sat Feb 28 08:57:46 https://ww...nse_minister_we_have_launched/
Hrothgar rank	Sat Feb 28 09:05:42 I guess we'll see how well Iran restocked their ballistic missile supply and launchers since last summers spat. It's laughable how trump played so many Trumpists into "America first, no more wars" to get him elected, and then immediately has done nothing but wars since.
tumbleweed rank	Sat Feb 28 09:11:59 hooray, he'll get to end his 9th war
tumbleweed rank	Sat Feb 28 09:22:44 supposedly our regime is attacking government buildings
TheChildren rank	Sat Feb 28 09:52:55 https://ww...n-strikes-middle-east-oil.html
Paramount rank	Sat Feb 28 09:56:19 It’s a war of choice. Iran has the right to defend itself. And Iran should follow the example of Israel/USA and strike the homes of Israel/USA leaders. Netanyahu’s home, the Knesset, Israeli ministers homes, Israel’s nuclear power plant, etc. The White House, Pentagon, Maralago, Trump Tower, Lindsey Graham’s home, Marco Rubio et al. The pedophile terrorists must be destroyed. I think everyone can agree with that. Unless you are a pedophile terrorist yourself, of course.
Average Ameriacn rank	Sat Feb 28 09:58:31 I never trusted Iran. Never trust muslims!
murder rank	Sat Feb 28 09:59:16 The Iranians did the same stupid thing that everyone else does. They just sat there and watched the US build up its force around them and hoped that it would just go away instead of striking first. Some day someone is going to learn, but it's not going to be today. -
tumbleweed rank	Sat Feb 28 10:16:09 fuckhead has claimed (lied) that there were 'imminent threats' so has said the secret code words that let him do as he wants (just like declaring drug smugglers 'terrorists', & trade w/ every nation a national emergency/security threat) https://tr...Trump/posts/116147082884192486 it's exciting to see someone willing to so shamelessly & openly abuse power so often w/ no consequences
murder rank	Sat Feb 28 10:35:59 Everyone spare a thought for jergul who is going to have a hard time watching Russian systems get wrecked again. -
Seb rank	Sat Feb 28 11:26:55 I suspect it will fail. US coercive diplomacy is spent because nobody believes the US has capacity for restraint or consistency cf. Trump surprised he can't a deal after ripping up the last one Regime change without boots on the ground isn't a thing. You might get a popular uprising but those don't always pan out how you might want.
Seb rank	Sat Feb 28 11:43:21 Hmm, looks like they hit the US 5th fleet HQ (or nearby) with a ballistic missile.
Seb rank	Sat Feb 28 11:49:07
Average Ameriacn rank	Sat Feb 28 11:55:27 Israeli space lasers will destroy all of Iran's ballistic missiles
murder rank	Sat Feb 28 12:17:22 Nimatzo is probably inside Iran working for Mossad. :o)
Paramount rank	Sat Feb 28 12:50:00 In a video clip, an American terrorist in Bahrain, panics, shits his pants, and is asking to be fucked, and then wants to flee. https://x.com/dd_geopolitics/status/2027679889282027648 I also hope that Iran can damage a US aircraft carrier, and all of the US air bases in the region. That would be sweet if they did.
Average Ameriacn rank	Sat Feb 28 13:06:15 Paramount no real American soldier would give this kind of target information to the enemy. It's fake.
Paramount rank	Sat Feb 28 13:50:34 Now that US bases is being attacked and destroyed throughout the region, the people in these countries has the chance to kick the US terrorists out of their countries.
Average Ameriacn rank	Sat Feb 28 13:53:24 Why are you pro Iran? Are you a muslim? Do you want to make women cover their hair? Do you hate women?
Paramount rank	Sat Feb 28 14:12:24 Not particularly pro-Iran, but they are by far the lesser evil of the two. They are not ruled by a genocidal Zionist mafia and pedophiles. Remember that Iran was attacked. They have the right to defend itself.
Average Ameriacn rank	Sat Feb 28 14:17:26 Iran IS pedophile. This is law in Iran according to chatgpt: In Iran, the legal age of marriage for women (girls) under current law is: 13 years old — this is the standard minimum age for girls to marry under Iranian civil law. However, with parental (guardian) consent and approval from a judge, girls younger than 13 — effectively as young as about 9 lunar years (≈ 8 years 9 months) — can legally be married. These exceptions mean there is no absolute minimum age in practice if the court and guardians consent, a situation that has drawn significant human-rights criticism.
Paramount rank	Sat Feb 28 14:18:12 The US and Israeli genocidal pedo terrorists bombed a girl school in Teheran, killing 36 children.
Seb rank	Sat Feb 28 14:21:08 Ah I see, we are just normalising assassinating politicians of enemy regimes now. Good, good, I'm sure that won't come back to bite us.
williamthebastard rank	Sat Feb 28 14:25:09 I remember when...lol...magas were angrily trying to...rofl...lie through their teeth that Trump...hahaha...was a...lmao...a non-int...rofl...I'm sorry this is hard to sayaaahahahahaa...non-interventionist president! Its true, I promise! rofl!
Renzo Marquez rank	Sat Feb 28 14:26:43 Forwyn rank Wed Feb 25 22:22:57 "Lul. After Syria and Libya, Democrats are now crying about Congressional approval again." Correct.
Renzo Marquez rank	Sat Feb 28 14:34:20 Seb, did you support overthrowing Gaddafi and sending weapons to "moderate" jihadists in Syria?
TheChildren rank	Sat Feb 28 15:39:42 "I suspect it will fail. " >> and fail it will read da writings on da wall. that is, unless ww3 starts, then we all fucked
TheChildren rank	Sat Feb 28 15:42:39 now dat yall mention it, where is fagmatzo, havent seen him recently. has he been cucked in2 invadin iran like da florida gusanos tried 2 do in cuba?
TheChildren rank	Sat Feb 28 15:52:50 https://ww...z2x9/us_naval_base_in_bahrain/ smoked also, last week there was da steaks and lobsta dinner they was givin troops video on readdit fuckers. and it was said there that if troops were given fancy dinners and shit, that usually shits bout 2 happen. i guess now is all clear
murder rank	Sat Feb 28 16:28:46 "that is, unless ww3 starts, then we all fucked" How could WWIII possibly start? The other side can't even defend itself. -
murder rank	Sat Feb 28 16:30:09 Iran needs to go all in on developing nukes or this is going to happen every 6 months to a year. -
Renzo Marquez rank	Sat Feb 28 16:41:36 LOL. Looks like the Iranian state will not exist in 6 months.
TheChildren rank	Sat Feb 28 16:45:59 "When all else fails. They take you to war. Gerald Celente"
TheChildren rank	Sat Feb 28 17:04:21 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN9GQuO-VzI
williamthebastard rank	Sat Feb 28 17:14:01 Starting unprovoked wars with Iran is a US tradition, like thanksgiving.
Seb rank	Sat Feb 28 17:30:13 Renzo: There will be an Iran, and Iran will likely have some form of state. The question is whether you think the foreign policy of that state will materially differ. The answer is probably not, because Israeli and American policy is unlikely to change (cf Syria). Of course if there is no Iranian state that's likely to be more problematic unless the bucket materials and technology can be secured; which based on current performance seems unlikely.
williamthebastard rank	Sat Feb 28 18:09:21 So the non-int...hahahaha...the non-i...rofl...the non-interve...lmfao...the non-interventionist president is the 2nd fastest president in US history to get into a war according to ChatGPT
williamthebastard rank	Sat Feb 28 18:14:08 (3rd if you count Bush, but ChatGPT thinks thats a special case since the US was attacked that time)
Sam Adams rank	Sat Feb 28 18:34:50 Lol I love the butthurt from seb and paramount. And jergul too I'm sure.
Sam Adams rank	Sat Feb 28 18:44:08 So far Iran has lashed out primarily against civilians: Attempting to close the straits. a shahad drone into the tourist district at Dubai A shahad drone into the Kuwait airport terminal Something just hit a skyscraper in Bahrain Allied mlitary targets hit. A fuel tank and a radar at US fleet base in Bahrain.
Sam Adams rank	Sat Feb 28 18:45:47 https://x....tatus/2027786994198139008?s=20 Bahrain skyscraper.
Paramount rank	Sat Feb 28 18:52:13 Now that US bases in the ME are being attacked, the people in those countries has a chance to rise up and kick out the US pedophile terrorists and put an end to the pedo Empire.
Allahuakbar rank	Sat Feb 28 19:02:43 It begins! https://ww...sticated-us-radar-system-qatar The Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) has announced that it destroyed a sophisticated American radar system stationed in Qatar as part of its retaliatory attacks targeting US bases and assets in the region. A Saturday statement from the IRGC said the FP132 radar system, which was targeted in the attack, had a range of 5,000 km and had unique equipment to counter ballistic missiles. According to a report by the US Defense Security Cooperation Agency in 2013, the radar system was worth around $1.1 billion. The statement said the system was “completely annihilated” in the massive missile attack. The attack came as part of a coordinated response by Iranian armed forces to Israeli and US unprovoked aggression against Iran that took place early on Saturday. The unprovoked attacks triggered a swift Iranian response, with IRGC and army missiles and drones targeting US military sites in at least seven regional countries, including Qatar. Qatar hosts Al-Udeid, the largest US airbase in the region, and Iranian authorities had warned the base would become a target if Iranian territory were struck by the US or Israel.
Seb rank	Sat Feb 28 19:04:29 Renzo: Yes, exactly, which is why you should probably listen to me when I say this is a particularly dumb intervention if even I won't support it. I supported overthrowing Gaddafi when he was heading to warcrime Benghazi, but I wanted post war boots on the ground. There's no prospect for that in Iran. Syria, if we had intervened decisively when I said to prevent Assad from committing atrocities and before he released the Jihadis from jail, again, the situation could have been stabilized. You guys pretend there were no moderates because you allowed them to get forced into an alliance with Islamists as the alternative to being slaughtered. Iran is far too big to hope to stabilise, and we've not done effective stabilisation since Yugoslavia. The US simply doesn't have the political stability and functioning institutions to maintain its own political stability let alone bring it to a country the size of Iran. The best outcome it can hope for is another failed lawn mowing operation, or shattering the Iranian state with negative long term consequences for the area, especially if it can't secure Iran's nuclear materials and expertise, which I think it very likely can't.
Allahuakbar rank	Sat Feb 28 19:05:04 It continues! https://ww...es-after-israeli-us-aggression As part of its retaliatory operations against the latest Israeli-American aggression on the Islamic Republic of Iran, the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) launched a volley of missiles on Saturday at a US Maritime Strike Tomahawk (MST) support vessel. In a statement released by the Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting (IRIB), the public relations department of the IRGC Navy said the Maritime Strike Tomahawk (MST) platform was struck by multiple missiles in a calibrated response.
Sam Adams rank	Sat Feb 28 19:56:57 Lol poor Iran. The two mightiest air forces in the world are shitkicking it.
obaminated rank	Sat Feb 28 20:10:35 Seb is actually hoping iran wins. Let that sink in.
jergul rank	Sat Feb 28 20:11:09 Shrug, Russia drops a thousand tons of JDAM equivalents on Ukraine per week. You can beat Iran only if Iranians want to be beaten in other words. Lets see how many days you can keep this going.
obaminated rank	Sat Feb 28 20:23:42 As we all know a country only loses a war if they want to lose. Great point, idiot.
murder rank	Sat Feb 28 20:25:48 His point is that the US and Israel can't defeat Iran from a distance. Eventually they will run out of bombs and missiles. Iran can simply outlast them. -
obaminated rank	Sat Feb 28 20:32:35 Not when their people are revolting. Trump won. I just hope we didn't kill the system ayatollah
murder rank	Sat Feb 28 20:36:00 Are their people revolting? Are these like the revolts in Venezuela that have brought down the government there? -
obaminated rank	Sat Feb 28 20:39:20 How dumb are you, exactly?
murder rank	Sat Feb 28 20:43:12 I'm dumb enough to know that a few thousand people in the street don't represent a nation of 92 million people. I'm old and dumb enough to have seen this same stupid act over and over again. You are obviously dumb enough to not have learned by now. -
Sam Adams rank	Sat Feb 28 20:48:38 "Russia drops a thousand tons of JDAM equivalents on Ukraine per week." Lmfao. Soviet random number generator says what.
Seb rank	Sat Feb 28 22:24:02 Obaminated: Displaying your excellent grasp of reading comprehension. Or possibly you are one of those superstitious people who think taking a position on what is likely to happen implies support for it. I hadn't figured your for Woo woo and crystals.
Seb rank	Sat Feb 28 22:33:16 The people were revolting a few weeks ago, but you stood by and let them get killed while you tried to negotiate a deal that Obama negotiated and trump ripped up because he was mad about a black man making fun of him. I said when the US bombed the nuclear sites it had not looked effective, and you said then I was buthurt pro Iranian. But look, it was in-fact ineffective because you've got expanded campaign to have another go. If you can't even destroy a centralised infrastructure program, what makes you think you can stop the Bhasij beating the shit out of any protestors and torturing them until they submit? This isn't like Syria or Libya where you at least had an organised military proxy you could back. If there was a military option to end the Iranian nuclear weapon program and replace its leadership I'd absolutely be for it, as I have been for every intervention for those kinds of objectives for the last 30 years where I think theres a chance of success. You guys are such hacks, you can't see past the US's own dumb culture war.
Paramount rank	Sat Feb 28 22:39:08 Sad Madams rank Sat Feb 28 18:45:47 https://x....tatus/2027786994198139008?s=20 Bahrain skyscraper. - - The Iranians got intel that high ranking US and Israeli pedo terrorists were hiding that in that building.
Paramount rank	Sat Feb 28 22:40:16 * hiding in that building
Seb rank	Sat Feb 28 22:43:17 So far all I can see is that you've killed an Ayatollah - they'll just promote another one - and a bunch of officials, also all replaceable. And 60 school girls (yay, liberation for the oppressed women of Iran). But this isn't starwars where the crackling evil old man gets blown up in his exploding base and suddenly the regime collapses. Decapitation is a great tactic to throw an enemy into chaos, preventing them responding to your main strategy. But there doesn't appear to be a strategy here that has a credible chance of changing the regime or securing the nuclear program. So... I mean great, your war criminals successfully ordered some of their war criminals killed.
Paramount rank	Sat Feb 28 22:44:34 Several hundred American soldiers have been killed in Iranian retaliatory attacks, a spokesman for Iran's Revolutionary Guards claims, according to Reuters. - - If true, nothing of value was lost. Just baby-killing terrorists working for the JewS pedo mafia.
TheChildren rank	Sat Feb 28 22:53:59 rofl 2 confirm da body of da leader "buried in rubble" u wuld need actual boots on da ground...and a lot of them since u wuld be diggin in massive concrete debris. so i call bs da fog of propdapunfda has begun.
Paramount rank	Sat Feb 28 23:05:53 Every Iranian male over the age of 80 looks like the ayatollah. This is an Iranian advantage.
obaminated rank	Sat Feb 28 23:44:33 Ayatollah is dead. Iranians are praising trump for doing this. Go ahead and suck a cock, seb, tw, jergul and everyone else who thought iran stood a chance or the Iranians wouldn't be happy.
Rugian rank	Sat Feb 28 23:49:01 Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump Khamenei, one of the most evil people in History, is dead. This is not only Justice for the people of Iran, but for all Great Americans, and those people from many Countries throughout the World, that have been killed or mutilated by Khamenei and his gang of bloodthirsty THUGS. He was unable to avoid our Intelligence and Highly Sophisticated Tracking Systems and, working closely with Israel, there was not a thing he, or the other leaders that have been killed along with him, could do. This is the single greatest chance for the Iranian people to take back their Country. We are hearing that many of their IRGC, Military, and other Security and Police Forces, no longer want to fight, and are looking for Immunity from us. As I said last night, “Now they can have Immunity, later they only get Death!” Hopefully, the IRGC and Police will peacefully merge with the Iranian Patriots, and work together as a unit to bring back the Country to the Greatness it deserves. That process should soon be starting in that, not only the death of Khamenei but the Country has been, in only one day, very much destroyed and, even, obliterated. The heavy and pinpoint bombing, however, will continue, uninterrupted throughout the week or, as long as necessary to achieve our objective of PEACE THROUGHOUT THE MIDDLE EAST AND, INDEED, THE WORLD!
Rugian rank	Sat Feb 28 23:52:45 What a wild year 2026 has been so far.
obaminated rank	Sun Mar 01 00:26:19 Trump is getting head tonight.
tumbleweed rank	Sun Mar 01 00:28:12 good to know the bombing will continue until there is peace throughout the world, i hope the AI are paying attention to that idea
Sam Adams rank	Sun Mar 01 00:37:05 The US/IDF has taken out more dictators today than it has suffered casualties. Lmfao.
murder rank	Sun Mar 01 00:50:57 Yay! Iran is free! I guess we can go home now. -
obaminated rank	Sun Mar 01 01:43:31 Tw doesn't know what to do. Are you upset trump killed the Iranian government?
Sam Adams rank	Sun Mar 01 02:17:54 So far Iran has struck, Dubai, abu dhabi, and Kuwait city airport, killing at least one civilian and injuring many. Other civilian targets include a number of civilian buildings in Bahrain and Tek aviv.
Renzo Marquez rank	Sun Mar 01 02:36:04 Seb rank Sat Feb 28 22:33:16 "This isn't like Syria or Libya where you at least had an organised military proxy you could back." LOL. Yes. Salafist jihadists. Worked out great in Libya and the Syrian leader is a terrorist.
pillz rank	Sun Mar 01 02:56:38 Seb's love of terrorists is well known.
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