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Seb
rank Sat Mar 14 20:58:53
So Trump first said he didn't want the UK to send ships to the middle east to join a war he'd already won.

Now he has asked us to send ships to the middle east.

Obviously that's not a very popular idea, but I think we have some mothballed T-23 frigates and maybe we can lease them to the US in exchange for Hawaii or Alaska?

tumbleweed
rank Sat Mar 14 21:27:50
you -will- send those ships or he will tariff you or cut off trade altogether!

...& you better thank him for saving you & the world... & award him a medal, trophy, or cash prize... & hang some banners of him...

Cherub Cow
rank Sat Mar 14 21:47:19
Trump is irrelevant. You will send the ships because you are kikeslaves.

Sam Adams
rank Sat Mar 14 21:59:17
No one is asking you to send anything seb. That message was meant for the French, you know the people that actually have a working navy.

Paramount
rank Sat Mar 14 23:35:27
What is the point of having a navy when you don’t wanna use it to protect your oil tankers. The oil tankers have more guts than your navy. But this is how it is when you are being governed by a pedo mafia. Ha ha

Seb
rank Sun Mar 15 11:55:48
Tumbleweed: yeah but he tariffs us every other month so why care?

NaMBLA: funny to have the UK ambassador deliver it then. Maybe not actually. The state department probably filled with NaMBLAs like yourself now.

Seb
rank Sun Mar 15 12:01:00
Also Trumps post specifically called out the UK along with other countries.

They were never going to send PoW. No real need given Cyprus.

The rest of the fleet has various commitments keeping an eye on the Arctic and North sea. Why would we want to go help the US fix the mess it has created when we have Russia snooping around our undersea infrastructure?

murder
rank Sun Mar 15 23:50:56

"Now he has asked us to send ships to the middle east."

If we're afraid to send Arleigh Burkes into the strait, wtf are smaller less well armed and defended ships supposed to do to open the strait?

He's basically demanding volunteers for cannon fodder duties.

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tumbleweed
rank Mon Mar 16 00:51:22
Mike Waltz (administration clown who invited a reporter into the group chat where clown Hegseth was sharing classified war plans) asked about Trump's posts:

"...Trump is saying the entire world is affected, Iran can't hold your economies hostage, and we certainly welcome, encourage, and even -demand- their participation to help their own economies"

video of that exchange:
https://x.com/atrupar/status/2033170159649648883

Trump claimed "many" countries already agreed to help, so i'm sure it's all going great...

(him lying 100% of the time on every topic is completely reasonable & acceptable)

Seb
rank Mon Mar 16 03:25:05
Or America can take the L and the global economy can continue.

Seb
rank Mon Mar 16 03:55:39
Honestly, I think the US has lost already.

The ask - for the US to determine who the next Iranian leader is - is existential for the Iranian regime. They are going to endure and sacrifice a lot before they accept that.

Every time Trump says on media "the wars over, we've won, just mopping up" what he's signalling is the political cost of the war is already too high for him, and he's looking for an out.

He might not be there yet, but it's very much wile coyote hanging in mid air trying to not look down.

tumbleweed
rank Mon Mar 16 07:59:15
our desperate dicktator:
"We didn’t have to help [NATO] with Ukraine. Ukraine is thousands of miles away from us... but we helped them. Now we’ll see if they help us. Because I’ve long said that we’ll be there for them but they won’t be there for us. And I’m not sure that they’d be there." (& a comment about it being a 'bad future' for NATO if they don't help)

so now NATO has to join his illegally unilateraly started wars of choice... completely acceptable behavior

the extortion continues... our effort in Ukraine apparently was to gain profit from Ukraine & mercenary work from 'allies'

Paramount
rank Mon Mar 16 08:38:40
”We didn’t have to help [NATO] with Ukraine”

So it is a NATO war on Russia?

More accurately it is a war instigated by the US and later dumped on Europe.

Now the US wants to dump another war they started and are unable to finish on Europe.

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Seb rank	Sat Mar 14 20:58:53 So Trump first said he didn't want the UK to send ships to the middle east to join a war he'd already won. Now he has asked us to send ships to the middle east. Obviously that's not a very popular idea, but I think we have some mothballed T-23 frigates and maybe we can lease them to the US in exchange for Hawaii or Alaska?
tumbleweed rank	Sat Mar 14 21:27:50 you -will- send those ships or he will tariff you or cut off trade altogether! ...& you better thank him for saving you & the world... & award him a medal, trophy, or cash prize... & hang some banners of him...
Cherub Cow rank	Sat Mar 14 21:47:19 Trump is irrelevant. You will send the ships because you are kikeslaves.
Sam Adams rank	Sat Mar 14 21:59:17 No one is asking you to send anything seb. That message was meant for the French, you know the people that actually have a working navy.
Paramount rank	Sat Mar 14 23:35:27 What is the point of having a navy when you don’t wanna use it to protect your oil tankers. The oil tankers have more guts than your navy. But this is how it is when you are being governed by a pedo mafia. Ha ha
Seb rank	Sun Mar 15 11:55:48 Tumbleweed: yeah but he tariffs us every other month so why care? NaMBLA: funny to have the UK ambassador deliver it then. Maybe not actually. The state department probably filled with NaMBLAs like yourself now.
Seb rank	Sun Mar 15 12:01:00 Also Trumps post specifically called out the UK along with other countries. They were never going to send PoW. No real need given Cyprus. The rest of the fleet has various commitments keeping an eye on the Arctic and North sea. Why would we want to go help the US fix the mess it has created when we have Russia snooping around our undersea infrastructure?
murder rank	Sun Mar 15 23:50:56 "Now he has asked us to send ships to the middle east." If we're afraid to send Arleigh Burkes into the strait, wtf are smaller less well armed and defended ships supposed to do to open the strait? He's basically demanding volunteers for cannon fodder duties. -
tumbleweed rank	Mon Mar 16 00:51:22 Mike Waltz (administration clown who invited a reporter into the group chat where clown Hegseth was sharing classified war plans) asked about Trump's posts: "...Trump is saying the entire world is affected, Iran can't hold your economies hostage, and we certainly welcome, encourage, and even -demand- their participation to help their own economies" video of that exchange: https://x.com/atrupar/status/2033170159649648883 Trump claimed "many" countries already agreed to help, so i'm sure it's all going great... (him lying 100% of the time on every topic is completely reasonable & acceptable)
Seb rank	Mon Mar 16 03:25:05 Or America can take the L and the global economy can continue.
Seb rank	Mon Mar 16 03:55:39 Honestly, I think the US has lost already. The ask - for the US to determine who the next Iranian leader is - is existential for the Iranian regime. They are going to endure and sacrifice a lot before they accept that. Every time Trump says on media "the wars over, we've won, just mopping up" what he's signalling is the political cost of the war is already too high for him, and he's looking for an out. He might not be there yet, but it's very much wile coyote hanging in mid air trying to not look down.
tumbleweed rank	Mon Mar 16 07:59:15 our desperate dicktator: "We didn’t have to help [NATO] with Ukraine. Ukraine is thousands of miles away from us... but we helped them. Now we’ll see if they help us. Because I’ve long said that we’ll be there for them but they won’t be there for us. And I’m not sure that they’d be there." (& a comment about it being a 'bad future' for NATO if they don't help) so now NATO has to join his illegally unilateraly started wars of choice... completely acceptable behavior the extortion continues... our effort in Ukraine apparently was to gain profit from Ukraine & mercenary work from 'allies'
Paramount rank	Mon Mar 16 08:38:40 ”We didn’t have to help [NATO] with Ukraine” So it is a NATO war on Russia? More accurately it is a war instigated by the US and later dumped on Europe. Now the US wants to dump another war they started and are unable to finish on Europe.
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