Utopia Talk / Politics / Seb convicts 86yo in woman for typo

Pillz rank	Mon Apr 20 20:27:05 https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g5xee663zo Fast Track Courts, what a boon to the nation!
Seb rank	Mon Apr 20 21:43:40 Pillz: You reckon it would be better instead for every person who drives uninsured to have a jury trial at a criminal court? Bold proposition. The result would have been the same though: she did in fact break the law. The sentence: "She was handed a three-month conditional discharge instead of a fine, but also ordered to pay a £26 victim surcharge." The issue is with DVLA who could have dropped the prosecution on notification of the typo. They have, as per your story, since agreed if it's just a typo to petition to have the conviction quashed. It's also appropriate that - even with the typo - drivers should be liable. If she ran a pedestrian over and put them in a wheelchair, she would have no insurance cover, and that person would receive no adequate compensation. Certainly, itn isn't malicious that she made a mistake but even such errors carry liability. DVLA ought to be pursuing these cases, though it can always act leniently for a first offence. They have, as per your story, since agreed if it's just a typo to petition to have the conviction quashed. Storm in a teacup.
Sam Adams rank	Mon Apr 20 22:28:55 Lol sebs retarded bureacrat nation is retarded.
Seb rank	Mon Apr 20 22:39:27 Driving without insurance is a crime in most US states, with hefty fines and even jail sentences available.
Pillz rank	Mon Apr 20 23:26:23 You know seb's a snitch
Seb rank	Tue Apr 21 17:22:43 You know Pillz is an uninsurable drunk driver.
Sam Adams rank	Tue Apr 21 17:33:34 "Driving without insurance is a crime in most US states" Except she had car insurance. Lol dumb bureacrat.
Seb rank	Tue Apr 21 19:26:49 NaMBLA: Except she didn't. That's the point. Legally speaking she had insurance for a car with the reg plate she wrote, not her actual car with the reg plate she was driving. The insurance company would not have covered any accident involving that vehicle. Was she guilty of driving without insurance? Yes. Does that warrant some kind of sanction? Yes, mistakes can really fuck up other people's lives and you need to pay attention. Was it intentional dodge from which she benefited? No. So it justifies a very low penalty or a warning. But that latter option is for DVLA not the court.
Sam Adams rank	Tue Apr 21 20:50:46 Reeeetarded... Oh no I didn't spell it correctly maybe it doesn't mean what you think it means?
Seb rank	Tue Apr 21 21:02:05 NaMBLA: It's not retarded though, is it. Why would a company pay out on a claim for a car that isn't there one it insured? And if the insurer doesn't pay out, then functionally, she's uninsured. The reason we require insurance isn't because we want people to pay money to insurers, it's because we want to know if dotty granny or drunken pillz turns some guy into a quadriplegic, that persons care and future needs will be met. The only retard here is you, NaMBLA.
Seb rank	Tue Apr 21 21:02:51 Insurance: too complicated for NaMBLA so he thinks it's retarded.
Sam Adams rank	Tue Apr 21 23:23:53 Seb is a movie caricature of some by the book first year clown lawyer.
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