Utopia Talk / Politics / Forwyn bullshit about UK immigration

Seb rank	Fri Jun 05 12:31:31 Forwyn: "They get to live in community housing" Incorrect, you are not able to get community housing as an immigrant. You have "no recourse to public funds" which includes housing benefit. This is the the govt is having to rent hotels to put them in. " while they have ten kids who will vote" Again, not correct. Just racist paranoia e.g. "they breed like cockroaches!!!!". Firstly, a point often ignored but which I explicitly raised: most immigrants return home at some point. Secondly you aren't automatically eligible for citizenship if you are born in the UK unless one of your parents is British. Which is another issue with many of your simplistic readings of stats. Because you've adopted NAZI/Confederate blood law like concept, you see many of the kids of white British people as being fundamentally foreign. In your mind "native" is a status that can only be lost, and "immigrant" is a permanent stain that can only spread. This is the essential problem here: you resent it but you literally have a racist NAZI concept implicitly lurking at the centre of your world view. The logical extension is white people should be forbidden from falling in love and marrying a foreigner, and if they do, their partner and child and their children and their children's children must all be second class citizens. Yes, I have one child, but even though she looks white, in your world she isn't because my wife is Latina. In your world, it's an affront that she should be allowed to vote, that she should be afforded citizenship. In your world, she's a pollutant, degrading the white native gene pool. "Right...except they did the same thing to Henry" They did not, they did the opposite. They thought he was intoxicated, they put him in recovery which is what medically you should do. They did not attempt to asphyxiate him into submission. "Only...after they called him a liar, and ignored his pleas, and he stopped breathing." As the judge pointed out: 1. He presented with no obvious serious wounds, just the cut on his face (non life threatening) and intoxicated as he had been reported to 999. 2. Perpetrators lie to the police all the time. Of course they thought he was likely lying to avoid being cuffed and, potentially, attack or try to escape. This is why police routinely cuff people before body searches. You have no issues with this practice when used in stop-and-search. 3. When he they put him on his side and his condition rapidly deteriorated, they immediately started CPR. The simple matter is the police did little wrong, and what little wrong they did had nothing to do with race. You never asked me how you would respond to the following scenario: Police are called to the scene by a white family who report their son being attacked by a drunk, violent black man. Upon arriving the black man claims, slurring, that he's been stabbed. The police immediately turn around, arrest the white kid with a black eye, caution him, and begin investigating him for this claimed stabbing. You would lose your mind. You would say it was clear evidence of that police favouring an obviously self motivated claim from a black person to avoid being seen as racist, and two tier policing on an innocent white kid. Yet that's exactly what you are criticise the police here for. "we have both his fucking blood levels and the pills found." It's not in doubt he'd taken drugs, but the whole "gent panic" "crack panic" is not a real thing. It exists only in police reports to justify much heavier handed treatment of minorities on arrest. There's no actual difference in physiological response to drugs when high to substantiate it. There's medical papers on it. He was panicked when the police tried to bundle him into the car. He was worried they'd do racist violence to him. He was right to be worried . A racist police officer killed him, not as a legitimate act of policing: enough to get the officer convicted of murder in a country that gives broad immunity to disproportionate police violence. He is not in prison for a mistake. He is in prison for a gratuitous crime.
Forwyn rank	Fri Jun 05 17:09:46 Over 600 words of lies, and maybe 10% of it is factual. You selectively hone in on word choice to strategically defend your dishonest point; this is the British way. "They're not in community housing, they're just in hotels!" Yes, asylum seekers get accommodations plus an allowance. Then when they get refugee status or indefinite leave, full access to housing and benefits. And even before that, they can get local support for child welfare. "Most immigrants return home" is generally true for students and workers, but net migration has remained high for upwards of a decade - I've shared these figures with you several times. Births to non-UK mothers is 40%. 20% of the people on your islands are foreign. Your broad assessment is emotional and factually untrue. Opposing rapid, low-selection mass immigration and noting its fiscal, cultural, and electoral effects is not a Nazi ideology, no matter how vigorously you struggle to simplify issues for easier handling in accordance with your diminished IQ. Higher fertility + UK-born children gaining citizenship + chain migration shifts demographics and electorates over generations. There are proven ethnic gaps in voting patterns. These are objective facts, and your worldview is that anyone who has concerns with this are traitors. The flipside is truer than yours. As an aside to your idiotic strawman: Latina is Western, with largely shared values. Repealing a latina woman's suffrage would occur because she's a woman, not ethnicity. ----- On Nowak/Floyd...more lies and ignorance. The police/pathologist/Seb stance is that Nowak had already lost too much blood to be saved. Where was that blood, Seb? What did Nowak do to display intoxication, Seb? Would you like to double down on your earlier lie that he was drunk? Your hypothetical is not the slam dunk you think it is, for a couple reasons: US police, for all of their faults, would absolutely change course at the mention of a weaponized assault. Would they completely 180°? Probably not, but they would detain the other party and more thoroughly assess for wounds. This kid was tiny and non-combative, there was absolutely zero reason to hold him down until he was lifeless. Meanwhile, the flipside is true. If the races were flipped in this case you'd be crying about the internal biases of white cops.
Forwyn rank	Fri Jun 05 17:16:21 The fent panic portion deserves its own comment, because it's so clearly objectively true, proven by multiple studies, that you're essentially claiming the sky is not blue and to say that it is is racist. Do you really think that, "Drugs do not do drug things" is a serious stance from a serious person? Excited Delirium http://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3088378/ Excited (or agitated) delirium is characterized by agitation, aggression, acute distress and sudden death, often in the pre-hospital care setting. It is typically associated with the use of drugs that alter dopamine processing, hyperthermia, and, most notably, sometimes with death of the affected person in the custody of law enforcement. Subjects typically die from cardiopulmonary arrest, although the cause is debated. Unfortunately an adequate treatment plan has yet to be established, in part due to the fact that most patients die before hospital arrival. While there is still much to be discovered about the pathophysiology and treatment, it is hoped that this extensive review will provide both police and medical personnel with the information necessary to recognize and respond appropriately to excited delirium. Excited Delirium and Sudden Death: A Syndromal Disorder at the Extreme End of the Neuropsychiatric Continuum http://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5061757/ Over the past decade, the excited delirium syndrome (ExDS) has raised continued controversy regarding the cause and manner of death of some highly agitated persons held in police custody, restrained or incapacitated by electrical devices. At autopsy, medical examiners have difficulty in identifying an anatomic cause of death, but frequently cite psychostimulant intoxication as a contributing factor. The characteristic symptoms of ExDS include bizarre and aggressive behavior, shouting, paranoia, panic, violence toward others, unexpected physical strength, and hyperthermia. Throughout the United States and Canada, these cases are most frequently associated with cocaine, methamphetamine, and designer cathinone abuse. Acute exhaustive mania and sudden death presents with behavioral symptoms that are identical to what is described for ExDS in psychostimulant abusers. Bell's mania or acute exhaustive mania was first described in the 1850's by American psychiatrist Luther Bell in institutionalized psychiatric patients. This rare disorder of violent mania, elevated body temperature and autonomic collapse continued to be described by others in the psychiatric literature, but with different names until the first cases of ExDS were seen at the beginning of the cocaine epidemic by medical examiners. The neurochemical pathology examination of brain tissues after death revealed a loss of dopamine transporter regulation together with increases in heat shock protein 70 (hsp70) expression as a biomarker of hyperthermia. The similarity in the behavioral symptoms between extremely agitated psychostimulant abusers and unmedicated psychiatric patients suggests that a genetic disorder that leads to dysregulated central dopamine transporter function could be a precipitating cause of the acute delirium and sudden death. While the precise cause and mechanism of lethality remains controversial, the likely whys and wherefores of sudden death of ExDS victims are seen to be “biological,” since excessive dopamine in the brain triggers the manic excitement and delirium, which unabated, culminates in a loss of autonomic function that progresses to cardiorespiratory collapse. Excited delirium syndrome from psychostimulant abuse can mimic a violent scene of death http://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/s41935-019-0173-z Background Previous reported cases on excited delirium syndrome studied on the common clinical manifestations of the syndrome. The usual forensics implication for the syndrome is that death commonly is associated with restraint procedures by law enforcement agencies; however, not many cases reported highlights the difficulties in attributing a violent scene of death to the syndrome. Case presentation We present a case of a partially naked body found in an apartment unit under suspicious circumstances with multiple injuries. The scene of death was violent, and the body was found with blood wiped all over the floor and walls. Investigators believed a violent crime had occurred, and a suspect was reprimanded. However, upon autopsy, it was found that all injuries were superficially inflicted and were unlikely to have been part of an act of commission or caused his death. Internal examination found no remarkable pathology. Toxicology revealed a presence of psychostimulants, that is, methamphetamine, MDMA, and ethyl alcohol. Reconstruction of events by the witness, who was initially suspected of the ‘murder’, revealed that the injuries and his death could likely be explained by an episode of excited delirium. Conclusion The case highlights the challenges faced when attributing excited delirium syndrome as a cause of death. The syndrome can present with injuries from aggressive or bizarre behaviour, coupled with the destruction of property, which may confuse investigators on the possible manner of death.
Rugian rank	Fri Jun 05 17:37:38 I just got caught up on this story and skimmed through the last thread as well. Is Seb really defending the cops in this situation? LOL
Rugian rank	Fri Jun 05 17:38:34 You can admit to being wrong every once in a while Seb. It won't kill you. Just say it with me: two-tiered justice system.
Seb rank	Fri Jun 05 22:41:15 Like I said, reverse the races: Police reveive a report a black man has attacked a white kid. Police arrive to find an apparently intoxicated black man, and a white kid with a black eye. Apparently intoxicated black man slurs an accusation the white kid has stabbed him. There is no apparent stab wound. Police immediately start interrogating the white kid (which will mean cuffing and searching him under caution). You would call that two tier policing - and you would have a strong case. Yet this is precisely what you are arguing the police should have done in this case. If you want to take two tier, in the past 6 months, two Sikhs have been killed in racist attacks, and one Sikh woman has been raped in a racist attack - by which I mean that the attackers explicitly motivated their attacks based on race. There has been no coverage of this in national media or comment by folks like yourselves.
Seb rank	Fri Jun 05 22:50:51 Forwyn: https://ph...ecutive-Summary-March-2022.pdf https://nc...dehumanizing-and-unscientific/ https://vi...irium-and-police-use-of-force/ Yes, there are a few medical journal articles purporting to describe a cluster of symptoms in relation to cocaine. A catchall term to describe any drug and to cover up asphyxiation by police is the issue.
Forwyn rank	Fri Jun 05 22:56:40 "Drugs don't do drug things, police just lie about it to beat up black people" You've reached new levels of retardation, Seb. Do you drink too much?
Sam Adams rank	Sat Jun 06 01:14:24 "If you want to take two tier, in the past 6 months, two Sikhs have been killed in racist attacks, and one Sikh woman has been raped in a racist attack" 20 to 1 says seb is lieing again on all three.
Sam Adams rank	Sat Jun 06 01:16:05 "Police immediately start interrogating the white kid (which will mean cuffing" No you absolute fucking retard, asking questions does not mean cuffing. How are you this retarded.
Forwyn rank	Sat Jun 06 02:00:19 No one sane thinks that simple assault means pile on top of the suspect without talking to them, just like no one sane ignores a weapon injury claim, just like no one sane says drugs don't have effects on the behaviors of humans. But this is Seb
Cherub Cow rank	Mon Jun 08 02:01:36 [sebfag]: "read of your content almost nothing, and retain of it even less." Yes, I know that you are illiterate. You've demonstrated that even when you were attempting to read, since you were always incapable of comprehending any arguments from anyone — not just from me. Avoiding me is merely your means of avoiding someone who has repeatedly and systematically exposed your many lies. [sebfag (liar)]: "put the apparent intoxicated individual into recovery position" This is outright false. The "Recovery position" is *not* having your hands cuffed behind your back while you're on your side. Anyone who thinks that that is the "recovery position" is lying, retarded, or ignorant. The *actual* "recovery position" is hands in *front* of you, reducing pressure on the chest. These police did the opposite, and in fact they should not have cuffed him at all given his condition when they found him. Ironically, Digwa's father was keeping Nowak alive better than the police. [CC]: "Good reminder here that whenever sebfag mentions "NAMBLA" it is because I correctly have been calling the pedo-left "LGBTQ2S+NAMBLA" for more than 5 years, and sebfag only recently had the 80-IQ idea to project his totalitarian party's guilt onto others. Seb is slower than Internet Explorer. Seb is an absolutely pathetic person." [Sebfaggot]: "No it's because NaMBLA was a joke 25 years ago back" Nope. It's because you're an unoriginal hack who stole an insult that I was properly using against the degenerate left (your sort of people). You did the same pathetic maneuver with my correctly referring to people here as "bots", "NPCs", and totalitarian for having generic opinions from Reddit, the Guardian, and other totalitarian Regime media. Because you had no defense against those accusations (which I fully substantiated), you could only pathetically and impotently project them without any substantiation. You are doing the same now from your same pathetic and impotent nature. You're fooling no one, perhaps not even yourself. Your weak lies about Twitter supporting "CSAM" are based in nothing, and I already fully demolished those lies in the "Blue Sky" thread nearly two years ago ( http://uto...hread=93537&time=1733407647812 ). You have no arguments. Whereas, anyone who supports LGBTQ2S+NAMBLA is definitionally supporting pedophilia and "CSAM"; your own insult is an insult of yourself since you support LGBTQ2S+NAMBLA. I exposed you for your support of pedophilia in the accompanying thread on mental health delusions ( http://uto...hread=91859&time=1689804046392 ): ----------- Seb.. ✅ Has no conscience / morality ✅ Has zero work ethic ✅ Is learning disabled ✅ Suffers from IQ-induced smooth-brain agnosia (Seb, The Autistic Koala) ✅ Is incapable of good faith, preferring to.. • ✅ project, • ✅ distort, • ✅ straw man, and • ✅ be intentionally dense when he realizes that he'd have to actually have a position outside of the Regime's ✅ Is a Regime sycophant who only repeats the Party's refrains ✅ Is mentally incapable of the effort required to address arguments in good faith
Dukhat rank	Mon Jun 08 02:03:09 Forwyn is reaching Cherub-Cow-like levels of delusion. Probably his wife dumped his dumbass and he decided to rage online like an incel instead of move on. So sad and pathetic the whole fucking lot of you. I hope I can one day line, Forwyn, Cherub, and Sam in a row so that I can kill them all with one bullet.
Cherub Cow rank	Mon Jun 08 02:21:21 [duckfaggot]: "I hope I can one day line, Forwyn, Cherub, and Sam in a row so that I can kill them all with one bullet." Duckfag is not exactly contradicting the stereotype of subverted leftists being anti-White genocidal maniacs. I, meanwhile, think you should live forever with a Western conscience and a perfect memory of your every deed. :)
Forwyn rank	Mon Jun 08 06:16:24 Perhaps Cuckhat read on salon.com that drugs do not do drug things to people. That would lead one to conclude that assessing that drugs do drug things to people is a delusional take Odd for a billionaire with a megayacht to be consumed with homicidal fantasies about UPers though
Sam Adams rank	Mon Jun 08 07:03:59 Cuckhat reminds me of the thoughtless followers of any number of cultish religions. I want to kill because you questioned the orthodoxy! Inquisition!!!!
Seb rank	Mon Jun 08 09:08:08 Forwyn: It's funny that drugs cause specifically black people to mysteriously asphyxiate specifically around policemen isn't it? Acknowledging this unlikely state of affairs isn't denying drugs have effects on the human body. It's acknowledging that different drugs have different effects, and attributing those of cocaine overdose to relatively low levels of Fentanyl rather than the a knee on someone's neck is beyond farcical. It's funny isn't it, that although we have drugs in all these other countries, we don't have all these cases of death in police custody from excited delirium. I guess you must be right: drugs have *special* effects in America different from everywhere else. NaMBLA: "No you absolute fucking retard, asking questions does not mean cuffing." Yeah, actually, the police always cuff people they are searching for knives because frisking someone with a concealed knife without restraining them is a really good way to get stabbed. Forwyn: There's a video, nobody piled on top of him, they did search for a wound, that's how they found it. He looked like he was about to vomit, which is why their immediate concern was to put him in recovery position rather than let him choke on vomit. Perpetrators lie to the police all the time, of course they didn't just immediately believe him. They were called to the scene, to a report of racially aggravated assault, where the victims were detaining an assailant. When they arrived they found the reported victim with a black eye, the reported assailant apparently intoxicated. They cuffed him, searched him, and immediately began giving first aid for the condition the alleged assailant presented with. Of course they initially disbelieved the person reported as the attacker, and believed the ones that called the police. It is not normally the case for street violence that the attacker calls the police and stages the crime. Normally they run. Because it's almost impossible to get away with it. As we see here: within 3 minutes the police had correctly determined they had been lied to. Within 5 minutes the actual attacker was under arrest. And as heard in the trial and by the judge, there was - by the time they arrived - nothing they could have done to save Novak given the level of blood loss he sustained already.
Sam Adams rank	Mon Jun 08 09:44:44 ”because frisking" Lol retard you aren't being any less retarded. Just like cuffing, you also don't need to frisk someone before asking them a few questions. Seriously. Is your IQ 12?
Seb rank	Mon Jun 08 09:55:23 NaMBLA: Simply asking him politely whether it's true isn't going to help much, dumby. "Hey, this guy says he was stabbed by you, is that true?" "No sir! It is a lie" "Are you sure sonny?" "Absolutely" "Ok then" You seem to have this strange idea that perpetrators don't lie. As it happens, this is more or less what happened. When Novak says he was stabbed, you can hear a policeman saying something to one of the Sikh brothers and him replying "no, he's not been stabbed" and the officer replying "well, we've got to check him anyway". If the allegation is the supposed victim is actually the aggressor and he used a weapon, the first thing they need to do is search him, which requires cuffing him, and cautioning him, as happened to Novak.
Cherub Cow rank	Mon Jun 08 14:25:08 Reminder: [CC]: "Good reminder here that whenever sebfag mentions "NAMBLA" it is because I correctly have been calling the pedo-left "LGBTQ2S+NAMBLA" for more than 5 years, and sebfag only recently had the 80-IQ idea to project his totalitarian party's guilt onto others. Seb is slower than Internet Explorer. Seb is an absolutely pathetic person."
Cherub Cow rank	Mon Jun 08 14:26:49 [sebfag (liar)]: "immediate concern was to put him in recovery position" Sebfag still telling this lie. They absolutely did not put him in the recovery position. This is the recovery position: http://my....h/treatments/recovery-position This is the bodycam footage: https://x.com/europa/status/2061555027261497774 At not a single point in the footage was Nowak in the recovery position. Sebfag is outright lying.
Seb rank	Mon Jun 08 14:45:51 CC: Suffice it to say, if I had noticed you were using it, I would be less likely to use it. It's a very obvious and apt insult to use for someone making edgy arguments like "advocating for legalisation of paedophilia is protected free speech", nobody needs to be inspired by your word salad to come up with it CC. You may offer an all you can eat buffet but I don't step through the door and so we only interact while you are raving outside the establishment to attract diners.
Seb rank	Mon Jun 08 15:07:50 You may also want to familiarise yourself with "restraint recovery position" - a modification to allow restraint of a suspect. Again, the key point here is even though his hands are behind his back he is on his side (not prone) to avoid positional asphyxia, and unlikely to choke on vomit as would be the case if he was sitting and restrained. You can find details from UK Home Office or national college of police. Having addressed that issue, I'm going to stop reading your posts again for the rest of this thread. Nothing good comes from it. Cheerio.
williamthebastard rank	Mon Jun 08 15:23:11 American survives day in most dangerous city in UK, London and refuses to practice Shakira law http://www.youtube.com/shorts/s8kF6TVuW18
Cherub Cow rank	Mon Jun 08 15:35:26 Reminder: [CC]: "Good reminder here that whenever sebfag mentions "NAMBLA" it is because I correctly have been calling the pedo-left "LGBTQ2S+NAMBLA" for more than 5 years, and sebfag only recently had the 80-IQ idea to project his totalitarian party's guilt onto others. Seb is slower than Internet Explorer. Seb is an absolutely pathetic person." ------------ [sebfag the liar]: "You may offer an all you can eat buffet but I don't step through the door" False. You can lie all you want (you are a liar) about not reading my posts, but then you have demonstrably stolen my insults of you and other UP leftists and attempted (weakly, impotently) to project them upon others even as they do not fit (as I demonstrated above in comment "Mon Jun 08 02:01:36"). That is your pathetic nature. You yourself support LGBTQ2S+NAMBLA by your own admission because you are a confirmed pedophile supporter by every Regime metric. You can only weakly project this state as like Shylock being a jew while critiquing Christians who possess a morality that he altogether lacks. You yourself do not care about pedophilia, you just know that your enemies do. You yourself would even admit that your enemies want to throw faggots off of rooves and that you yourself would never do such a thing, and thus your asymmetry and slave morality is plainly shown. [sebfag the liar]: "You may also want to familiarise yourself with "restraint recovery position" - a modification to allow restraint of a suspect." Now you're just moving the goalposts like the fucking liar you are. You never said, "restraint recovery position", at any time *until* you were called-out on your liarly use of "recovery position", which indicates that you probably pathetically searched for an escape explanation *after* you were found out as a fucking liar. You are a fucking liar and have been found out as a liar thousands of times. As for this latest lie (you are a liar), that position does not apply for any presumption of lung issues such as a stab wound — which was a reasonable presumption given the avalanche of evidence that that was the case. This officer failed by all metrics — except those of an anti-White system, which is the totalitarian system that you fully and dogmatically support.
Cherub Cow rank	Mon Jun 08 15:35:28 sebfag basically is just lying with his every sentence. These are all lies: • [seb the liar]: "When they arrived they found the reported victim with a black eye" False. The "reported victim" did not have a black eye. He barely had even a tiny mark. By his own admission he said, "I've got swelling eye, little bruising." When he points to this supposed mark, it's clear that he's trying to exaggerate for effect and that nothing happened to him. He was clearly lying and had weak evidence for his lie. • [seb the liar]: "It's funny that drugs cause specifically black people to mysteriously asphyxiate specifically around policemen isn't it?" False framing. Low-IQ criminals often die of ODs in police custody because they swallow their stashes when found-out by police. That is exactly what happened. The criminal Floyd saw police, and swallowed his stash. This is visible in the bodycam footage: http://x.com/WrasslinRyan/status/2061965356453781796 So the sequence of events was this: • Floyd is doing drugs in the car after trying to defraud a business • Police make contact with Floyd • Floyd immediately tries to swallow his stash • Floyd is removed from his vehicle • Police attempt to put Floyd in the squad car • Floyd tries to spit out some of the drugs in the squad car • Floyd tells police that he can't breathe [because of the drugs he took; at this point, police are not doing anything to Floyd's body]. He asks to be taken out of the squad car and put on the ground (Floyd *himself* asks for this!) • Police do as Floyd says, putting him on the ground • While on the ground, Floyd is clearly ODing from the drugs he took; his breathing issues were caused by his own actions Shitlib faggots will say that because retarded criminals will swallow their stash when approached by police that police shouldn't approach them at all. That's what BLM was asking for with their "defund" movement. But it's very clear at this point that that is criminals protecting criminals. People who think it's "mysterious" for criminals to OD should not be allowed to vote or hold any political power whatsoever. • [seb the liar]: "cocaine overdose to relatively low levels of Fentanyl rather than the a knee on someone's neck is beyond farcical." Retarded logic. As already covered, Floyd was having difficulty breathing from the drugs he swallowed. This occurred before he was on the ground and before any knee contact. Seb being able to vote despite being so wholly retarded is itself the absurdity. • [seb the liar]: "It's funny isn't it, that although we have drugs in all these other countries, we don't have all these cases of death in police custody from excited delirium." False framing. The relevant statistical markers are that Western nations that have adopted the treason of DEI/CRT/Marxism have destroyed their reporting criteria by reducing interactions with these retarded criminals, *and* Western nations that still sometimes have interactions with low-IQ criminals are not dealing with the specific issue of the black "American". black "Americans" are a particular type of retard that will do particularly retarded things (e.g., due to access to drugs, "thug" culture under jewish agitprop). • [seb the liar]: "I guess you must be right: drugs have *special* effects in America different from everywhere else" False framing. sebfag the liar's premise is demolished by asking how many niggers are running around the UK, stealing Kia cars, crashing them, doing drugs, flaunting their illegal Glock-switches, robbing liquor stores, and swallowing their drug stashes when they think they'll be caught. A key ingredient here is that the foreign bio-weapons that have been unleashed on the UK to rape and murder White children is not the same exact foreign bio-weapon unleashed on these United States to terrorize White people. The Bolsheviks found that shitlib faggot leftists in the UK were much more accommodating of Pakistani rapists, so that's the weapon they primarily focused on for England (Pakistanis and other "Asian" rapists compromising some 10% of England's population, whereas black people are only 4.2% — compare to 14.4% black in these United States). I.e., in these United States, it was primarily black people unleashed upon the population by the tyrant Lincoln, who intended to use slave revolts in morality to provoke mass-rapes against his opponents (an actual political strategy by Lincoln was to free the slaves only so that they might rape the families of Confederate soldiers while those soldiers were away). In England, it was Paki rapists unleashed by England's own traitors who similarly adopted the jew's morality. So the proper metric would be to compare black criminality in these United States to Pakistani rape in England. That is, drugs do indeed have a particular effect in these United States because of the presence of low-IQ black bio-weapons who love them, whereas the mass-rape has a particular effect in England because of the presence of resentful Pakistani bio-weapons who love raping White children. A quick logic check here would be to ask why England doesn't have as many KFCs as these United States. The answer is "black people" • About 49.2 million black people in the United States • About 2.3 million black people in England • About 4,000 KFCs in the United States; about 50,000 fried chicken restaurants • About 860 KFCs in England, about 1,700 fried chicken fast-food restaurants So the "special effect" that sebfaggot the liar is pretending not to comprehend is the presence of black people. If you have more black people, you have more chicken restaurants and you have more black people swallowing their drug stashes. • [sebfag the liar]: "Yeah, actually, the police always cuff people they are searching for knives" False framing. Police were not searching Nowak for knives. At no point in the bodycam footage did police indicate any suspicion at all that Nowak was armed or could be in possession of a knife. By their express admission, they cuffed him because of their belief that he was "racist". The only mention of a knife was in regards to Nowak having *been* stabbed, which would require that police search *others* — not Nowak. You fucking liar. • [sebfag the liar]: "He looked like he was about to vomit" False framing. The police officer ignored all signs that Nowak was coughing on blood. There were dozens of markers that Nowak was choking on his own blood, including the testimony of Digwa's own father at the very moment that police arrived. I.e., police ignored even the very first thing that they were told which could have saved Nowak. They paid attention to only that which could kill a White person. • [sebfag the liar]: "Perpetrators lie to the police all the time, of course they didn't just immediately believe him." ROFL. sebfag just admitted to the two-tier nature of this without realizing it. Police *did* believe Digwa and his family — and *only* in ways which disadvantaged Nowak! They did *not* believe Nowak! Even when evidence was accumulating in the most grotesque and obvious fashion, they did not believe him! So the evidence clearly offered the opposite prioritization, since if someone is incapacitated on the ground, *that* person is far far more likely to be a victim than some low-IQ retard dancing around telling stories as fast as he can, desperately trying to sell some tiny little scuff as an injury. So police believed it was a "racist" attack, but they did not believe Digwa's own father when he said that Nowak's mouth was filling with blood. Police had already decided who the perpetrator must be, and due to anti-Whiteism did not allow themselves to realize that these low-IQ foreigners were lying to them. They *did* immediately believe the perpetrators! • [sebfag the liar]: "They were called to the scene, to a report of racially aggravated assault, where the victims were detaining an assailant." False framing. Police had received a call of a stabbing *before* the call of a "racial" attack. They cared more about the "racial" attack than the stabbing — which they ignored! • [sebfag the liar]: "They cuffed him, searched him, and immediately began giving first aid for the condition the alleged assailant presented with." Absolutely fucking false. At no point in the bodycam footage did they search Nowak. At *no* point. They did a very weak search for a stab wound at the end of the video by briefly raising Nowak's shirt, only examining his stomach. When Nowak was dead, one of the female officers expressed impatience with an ambulance. But they did nothing. At no point in the footage did they administer first-aid. At no point. Sebfaggot is a fucking liar. • [sebfag the liar]: "Of course they initially disbelieved the person reported as the attacker, and believed the ones that called the police. It is not normally the case for street violence that the attacker calls the police and stages the crime. Normally they run. Because it's almost impossible to get away with it." False framing. There's no "of course" about it. They believed a "racial" attack and did not believe a knife attack — even though they had far more evidence of the latter (e.g., the call reporting a stabbing, Digwa's father saying that Nowak's mouth was filled with blood). The "not normally the case" red herring is pure retard slop as well, since Digwa's family had nowhere to run — they were at their own home! Thus the proper evaluation of the scene would be not to consider the "normal" situation of [a street fight somewhere in the wild (sebfag the liar's false framing)] but the reactions of a liarly family outside of their own home. • [sebfag the liar]: "within 3 minutes the police had correctly determined they had been lied to." False framing. Sebfag the liar is now pretending that police actually figured it out very quickly! (The absolute state of the lies from this liar!) Whereas no, they outright denied evidence from the very first moment and only *after* Nowak had *died* did they start evaluating alternate evidence. Oh! That's so very comforting to know that UK's racially trained police will allow White people to die and *then* begin other evaluations of evidence — but then three days later attempt to sell the lie that Nowak might have been a "racist" (without evidence!). Sebfag is a perfect example of the kinds of evil anti-White anti-West liars that we are dealing with. I have read very convincing essays on how Westerners need to deal with traitors such as this first. This strategically makes sense, since by disenfranchising and disempowering these totalitarian psychopaths and anti-White killers first, we can then deal with the foreigners that these psychopaths have enabled to kill us. You would not want to be in a foxhole with some traitor such as sebfag, since he would probably stab you in the back and then hope that the enemy would spare him. Seb is an absolutely evil person.
Seb rank	Mon Jun 08 16:52:12 Jergul: Can we delete the spam please?
Cherub Cow rank	Mon Jun 08 17:10:57 More lies from sebfaggot the liar: • [sebfaggot the liar]: "Can we delete the spam please?" Note here how sebfaggot falsely claims that I have spammed, whereas I have written two discrete comments with clear paragraphs and clear argumentation: one directed at seb, and one about seb. There is no evidence of spam at all, but sebfaggot told that lie without conscience because he is interested in the *effect* of the lie rather than the truth of any words he can form or assemble. This is the slave morality of the shitlib and the totalitarian sycophant. They will tell whatever lie they need to tell to get the *effect* that they desire. We can also notice a further duplicity in sebfaggot, which is that he would never ask for such action to be taken against actual spammers such as williamthecoward. Hence, sebfaggot, being a liar (he is a liar) is leveraging a lie asymmetrically. He wants actual spam to remain (as evidenced in never complaining about actual spam) but wants opposition opinions removed (as evidenced above). This too is consistent with totalitarian sycophants. The subverted left (totalitarian sycophants such as sebfaggot) can only advance their arguments with lies and censorship. Left-wing echo chambers only function is the presence of such censorship. That is why seb is so frustrated right now. He has been systematically exposed as a liar for years and now very acutely in these threads, so he had a meltdown where he was using pathetic thought-terminating clichés (i.e., calling people "nazis" meaninglessly), and where that has totally failed him, he is now resorting to appeals to censorship. Seb is a very weak-minded and impotent person.
Cherub Cow rank	Mon Jun 08 17:12:28 *"Left-wing echo chambers only function i[n] the presence of such censorship."
williamthebastard rank	Mon Jun 08 17:17:38 ^ Definitely wearing her poop snorkel today. You can always tell.
Cherub Cow rank	Mon Jun 08 17:19:42 For reference: ------ http://uto...hread=96121&time=1780879740312 Looks like williamthecoward took a few weeks off from these threads to figure out a new and still impotent insult. He's going with "snorkel" this time. Sorry everyone; it's not funny, clever, or even biting, but it looks like we'll be reading it a lot for about a year. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ------
Sam Adams rank	Mon Jun 08 22:37:55 seb: "we don't have a 2 tier justice system" David lammy: "here's why we need a 2 tier justice system" Lmfao@seb https://ww...o-treat-communities-unequally/ Lammy: Police can’t always treat races equally
Seb rank	Tue Jun 09 00:56:29 His exact words "Look, there are particular circumstances in which, of course, the police have to go a bit deeper than treating everybody equally. I think you will understand that.” For example, they might do outrageous things like make particular provision for blind people. I think that's terribly unfair. Blind people should be treated exactly like everyone else. No special treatment. No two tier policing! Fucking blind people getting fucking people to read shit to them. They should read like everyone else. Fucking outrageous! The fucking special fucking treatment is unequal! The actual example he used is scheduling a voluntary interview of a Jewish witness to avoid them traveling on the Sabbath. Fucking outrageous! Outrageous! How dare they! Yep tier policing! All voluntary interviews should be FORCED TO HAPPEN AT THE SAME TIMES BUT THE SAME RULES! TWO TIER POLICING!!!! I AM OUTRAGED! ITS FUCKING OUTRAGEOUS. LOOK AT MY RED GAMMONY FACE!! THE FUCKING INVADERS!!! ITS AN INVASION. WE NEED TO GENOCIDE THEM ALL.. THE FUCKING INVADERS ARE HAVING SABBATHS ALL OVER OUR WHITE POLICE!!!! ITS TWO TIER POLICING!!! TWO. TIERS. ITS TIERS. ITS TIERS. POLICING IN TIERS. TWO OF THEM. I'M SO OUTRAGED. ITS A DISGRACE!!? Etc etc etc. This is also so stupid. No, he's not saying the thing you are claiming. Moron.
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