Utopia Talk / Politics / lol Europe heat wave

Sam Adams rank	Tue Jun 23 23:08:26 The cwimate is killing us!!! Heathrow has hit 93 degrees. Degaulle hit 98 degrees Apparently this is very bad because europe is too poor to have much air conditioning.
Sam Adams rank	Tue Jun 23 23:18:50 https://ww...ve-people-take-risks-cool-down French officials are warning against unregulated swimming after 40 people drown. Paris has 10s of thousands of people swarming to parks around its rivers - glorified sewage canals and migrant bathrooms - to go swimming.
williamthebastard rank	Tue Jun 23 23:19:45 The elderly dying of sunstroke is fun to you every summer. When do you think you became completely mentally ill?
Sam Adams rank	Tue Jun 23 23:22:52 ”The elderly dying of sunstroke" Our elderly live in houses that are always 72 degrees. Why don't you care about yours enough to do the same?
Paramount rank	Tue Jun 23 23:24:19 The french government had an emergency climate crisis meeting. But they are not capable of doing anything about it.
Sam Adams rank	Tue Jun 23 23:33:35 It's even more ridiculous when you look at the humidity values. London was more comfortable than 90% of the US today. Paris was approximately equal to the median us summer heat index(a combination of heat and humidity). But this is enough for the weenies to freak out and swim in sewers full of migrant poop and trash. Lol
Habebe rank	Wed Jun 24 03:02:34 This is why it's stupid for Euros to whine about coming to the US and complain the AC is everywhere.
Habebe rank	Fri Jun 26 16:47:42 Like people in hotter climates figured it out a long time ago. Put ice in your drinks and buy an AC. It's that simple.
EuropeanPussy rank	Fri Jun 26 17:03:15 Situation is serious, Habebe, how do you use an AC at an outdoors pride march? https://ww...block-6a3e43658f086a87169667f1 6h ago 11.18 CEST Paris Pride March postponed over extreme temperature warnings Organisers postponed the French capital’s weekend Pride March after police ordered them to change the date to avoid overwhelming response services already under pressure due to extreme heat, AFP reported. “The march has been postponed,” said Anouk Veyret, co-president of the Inter-LGBT association. “We’re thinking of holding it in September, but the whole team needs to meet to see how we can bounce back.” The Pride March in the French city of Lyon, likewise to be celebrated on Saturday, was also cancelled on Friday.
Seb rank	Fri Jun 26 18:00:47 Habebe: The issue is Europe is a far more developed (as in housing stock and other built up environments that simply cannot be knocked down and replaced due to the absolutely staggering cost and disruption of doing so) - and aside from not being built for heat often can't be retrofitted for aircon. Also, these are still infrequent events.
Rugian rank	Fri Jun 26 18:17:08 But but but American houses are build so cheap! LOL cope. I'm sitting here in my brick and drywall space, comfortable as fuck with the AC running. Enjoy sweating to death in your European concrete fortress house though lmao.
Sam Adams rank	Fri Jun 26 19:13:00 "The issue is Europe is a far more developed" Lol obviously not. It's like talking to a primitive tribeman who hasn't heard of a window AC unit. You do have windows in Europe right?
Rugian rank	Fri Jun 26 19:30:21 It's not even a valid argument. Apparently 3/4s of all the housing stock in England and Wales were built in the last hundred years. You're telling me you can't put a window unit in a property that's younger than your average Beacon Hill townhome?
jergul rank	Fri Jun 26 19:42:54 ^telling us you spend way to much time indoors or in your car without telling me you spend way to much time doing those things. I have AC incidently. It is currently a broiling hot 14 C (57 F) outside. Reversable heatpumps are the actual good technology. ACs are too seasonal.
Sam Adams rank	Fri Jun 26 19:43:22 Lol no wonder Europe has no tech companies. Can't even figure out how to put a window AC in a window.
Habebe rank	Fri Jun 26 19:46:02 Seb, Window AC is a simple fix. You can get.nice room AC for like $200-300. What exactly is the retrofitting problem? For large central AC units, like for stores?
Sam Adams rank	Fri Jun 26 19:47:29 I think UP should buy one of these for seb https://ww...ys/take_along_shape_sorter.cfm
Habebe rank	Fri Jun 26 19:47:36 EP, The South Koreans have outside misters. In the US we mostly use fans and canopies, cold drinks.
Sam Adams rank	Fri Jun 26 19:50:59 "Reversable heatpumps" True. These are indeed a good idea. Pretty much every house here has them these days and are the proper solution. We are just trying to suggest easy/cheap solutions to the low IQ/poor residents of London/paris.
Forwyn rank	Fri Jun 26 20:17:23 "you spend way to much time indoors or in your car without telling me you spend way to much time doing those things." Yes, we spend more time inside when the temperature hits triple digits (37+ in slave units) - and this is every day for the stretch of summer, not the occasional burst. You can typically run Mar-May and Sep-Nov with nothing, and spend lots more time outdoors.
Habebe rank	Fri Jun 26 21:16:05 Can we all agree too while were at it, celsius is a shit way to measure weather temperature.
jergul rank	Fri Jun 26 21:39:38 That would be a negative.
Seb rank	Fri Jun 26 22:51:05 NaMBLA: Learn to read, the explicity "no, not developed as in technologically advanced" is literally right there.
Sam Adams rank	Fri Jun 26 22:51:15 Celcius is decent. A single degree Celsius is about what a human can detect consciously(our automatic internal temp is far more precise). Meters are the dumb one. A foot is really logical.
Seb rank	Fri Jun 26 23:02:29 Rugian: Yeah the layout often doesn't work, plus you'd need it in multiple rooms. Habebe: My bedroom windows are two Veluxes in the dormer roof, and a set of folding french windows, so that doesn't work. I did mean to get AC installed when we did the loft conversion but I completely forgot as it was a cool year. We will get it at some point, probably when I do the solar roof, until then I use a portable. This is, by the way, the issue. Where easy retrofitting is an option, people have done it. The houses are designed to trap and retain heat to minimise heating costs, so Aircon alone often doesn't work because the houses are deliberately v designed not to allow lots of easy air circulation.
Seb rank	Fri Jun 26 23:09:35 Rugian: "It's not even a valid argument. Apparently 3/4s of all the housing stock in England and Wales were built in the last hundred years." Firstly, how does that invalidate the argument? The problem isn't the buildings are too old to retrofit, it's that their design elements make it hard to. High rise buildings designed to be efficient with insulation and double glazing and a communal heating system is very hard to retrofit Aircon to. You're telling me you can't put a window unit in a property that's younger than your average Beacon Hill townhome?
Seb rank	Fri Jun 26 23:14:15 Rugian: But more to the point, we can't build enough houses to meet rising demand due to labour shortages. Do you know how we were able to build so much after WW2? Massive surge of immigrants from the Caribbean, West Africa and Pakistan. I guess that's not something you'd consider repeating.
Sam Adams rank	Fri Jun 26 23:46:04 "I did mean to get AC installed when we did the loft conversion but I completely forgot as it was a cool year." You... forgot... to do basic planning ahead during a basic renovation? "The houses are designed to trap and retain heat to minimise heating costs, so Aircon alone often doesn't work because the houses are deliberately v designed not to allow lots of easy air circulation." So called ex physics major wants the cold air... to not be trapped? To leak out? "Do you know how we were able to build so much after WW2? Massive surge of immigrants from the Caribbean, West Africa and Pakistan." The period after WW2 UK was 99.9% white. https://en...graphics_of_the_United_Kingdom How is it even possible to be this wrong?
Habebe rank	Sat Jun 27 00:20:55 Jergul, There is no point for day to day weather to give a shit about the boiling point of water. Knowing 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s is a superior metric for day to day weather. Seb, Ive had those portable ones, it was better than nothing. That said I had 24k BTU beast from LG that cooled my entire house and could drain like 20 gallons/day, I had to rig up a plastic tub and a fish tank pump. The place I'm living in now is 150 years old and has central heat and AC....it is a weird system though Ive never seen anywhere else in my life. The downstairs lobby has a canvas tube with air holes in it and when the AC turns on it fills up and disperses the cool air across the room.
Forwyn rank	Sat Jun 27 01:13:05 Seb IQ: Import 100k third-worlders to build 25k more houses
Sam Adams rank	Sat Jun 27 02:36:22 Well he said in the other thread that one equals two hundred thousand so being off by only 4x is a major improvement
Forwyn rank	Sat Jun 27 03:49:00 Sometimes I feel generous to special needs individuals
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