Utopia Talk / Politics / US flights grounded nation wide?

Seb rank	Fri Nov 13 23:12:56 As NaMBLA no doubt would say, evidence of American subhuman intellect. But moving swiftly on from dumdum, Russians or AI whoopsie?
Sam Adams rank	Fri Nov 13 23:26:02 Probably a dei hire.
patom rank	Fri Nov 13 23:39:49 Apparently a communication problem involving air traffic control. http://www...8aa342faa741f8982dc47f96&ei=11
murder rank	Fri Nov 13 23:40:16 "Russians or AI whoopsie?" Probably an AI whoopsie. Some people insist on having faith in AI no matter how bad or how many times it makes a mess. -
Average Ameriacn rank	Sat Nov 14 00:08:23 Probabky some chinese equipments that malfunctioned. And I'm sure it was bought durin the Biden presidency.
earthpig rank	Sat Nov 14 00:55:01 I had it 80/20 that I was going to come here and SA would have a racist comment v inside scoop.
murder rank	Sat Nov 14 01:04:27 It could be sexists or transphobic so ... -
earthpig rank	Sat Nov 14 01:05:00 I didn't have sexism or racism on this particular bingo card.
earthpig rank	Sat Nov 14 01:05:16 I didn't have sexism or *transphobia on this particular bingo card.
patom rank	Sat Nov 14 02:31:12 Funny thing is I just asked Aspire yesterday about a story I'd seen that many air traffic controls across the nation were still using floppy discs. He said that was in fact true. I'm guessing that the White House is scrambling to find scapegoats to blame this on. We should start a pool to see who is at fault. earthpig is probably correct regarding SA. My first instinct is Trump will first blame Biden or Obama. Then use this as a reason to impose Marshal Law. Murder has some good targets with sexists or transphobia.
tumbleweed rank	Sat Nov 14 05:46:59 if related to AI it will be covered up, yet another topic Trump will reflexively defend forever
Seb rank	Sat Nov 14 09:33:51 That were saying rolling communications failures (losing radio contact with aircraft) when it began so almost certainly software related. Can't imagine it was related to msft (as in caused by). I'm guessing either something bad pushed to production due to lax testing pipeline which is happening more due to overly aggressive staff cuts based on "AI can do everything"; or Iran/Russia playing silly buggers (cf. EU food cold chain and airline bomb threats)
murder rank	Sat Nov 14 15:05:26 I doubt it was a hack of any sort because Trump would have blamed Iran and used it to justify his stupid war. -
murder rank	Sat Nov 14 15:43:14 https://ar...ion-across-entire-us-airspace/ It's a coincidence! -
murder rank	Sat Nov 14 15:45:20 FAA expands AI advice to manage air traffic congestion across entire US airspace Airlines praised the AI tool, but the air traffic controllers’ union wasn’t involved. The US government has expanded the use of an AI tool for advising air traffic controllers to assist in managing air traffic across the entire national airspace system. Airline executives have voiced support for the rollout, but the US labor union representing air traffic controllers has said it was not involved in designing or testing the AI-driven system. The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) says the $875 million SMART system has helped reroute 180 flights since being implemented in airspace over Washington, DC, on September 21. The agency claims that this saved an average of 10 minutes per flight and almost 80 gallons of fuel per flight—and it is apparently hoping such results can be replicated nationwide through the expanded deployment. “After a successful initial rollout to the National Capital Region in September, the FAA will now use SMART in the airspace of all 22 centers across the country to reduce delays, reduce fuel consumption and improve the travel experience for the flying public,” according to the agency statement posted on November 10. The FAA fact sheet describes SMART as a cloud-based system that combines information about “weather patterns, flight paths, traffic flow and controller staffing metrics” to predict air traffic patterns. It is designed to make scheduling recommendations, identify optimal flight routes, and determine the best order of arrivals for aircraft. However, a human team of FAA specialists based in DC is ultimately responsible for validating the SMART system recommendations before passing them along to air traffic control facilities across the country, according to the agency. Furthermore, the AI-powered SMART system “cannot be used to replace the critical role air traffic controllers play or take over control of an aircraft,” the FAA clarified in the September 21 announcement about the initial deployment. Local air traffic controllers can decide whether or not to accept the SMART system recommendations. The previous FAA announcement included supportive statements from Delta Air Lines CEO Ed Bastian and American Airlines CEO Robert Isom. But the National Air Traffic Controllers Association, which represents more than 15,000 members, also told Flying magazine that it was not consulted or involved in the “design, testing, or implementation of SMART and therefore cannot speak to its effect on the air traffic control workforce.” Following the initial deployment in airspace above DC, the FAA expanded the SMART system’s coverage to air route traffic control centers in Atlanta along with Jacksonville and Miami in Florida, according to The Dallas Morning News. The FAA also shared an example with The Dallas Morning News about how SMART recommended a shorter and faster route for a cargo flight arriving at Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport, although the newspaper noted that the agency did not identify the flight involved and has not provided information about how SMART may have assisted passenger flight traffic. Ars has previously covered the SMART system’s development and lingering questions about how it works, as well as the air traffic controller shortage and other challenges facing the FAA. https://ar...ion-across-entire-us-airspace/
Seb rank	Sat Nov 14 16:16:22 Not sure this would cause problems with communicating with aircraft though.
Average Ameriacn rank	Sat Nov 14 19:07:28 They tried to save money and used some chinese AI instaed of an American SI?
tumbleweed rank	Sat Nov 14 20:27:42 the evil AI has framed innocent amazing copper wire
murder rank	Sat Nov 14 23:45:24 Johnson says ‘we don’t really need any investigation’ on FAA ground stop House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) said there is no need for an investigation into the ground stop issued by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) on Friday, instead highlighting the need for “investment.” “We don’t really need any investigation … we need further investment,” Johnson said during an interview with Fox News’s Saturday in America. “I mean, some of this equipment dates back to the eighties so it’s gotta be updated and that’s our responsibility. We’re gonna work to get it done.” The FAA issued the nationwide ground stop around 4 p.m. EST on Friday. The rare protocol was in place for over four hours. The agency’s last widespread stoppage, which lasted approximately 90 minutes, was in January 2023. The FAA lifted the stop at around 8:15 p.m., Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy confirmed during a White House press briefing Friday night. Duffy attributed the incident to an overload of data on routers, with Homeland Security Secretary Markwayne Mullin adding the “public was never in danger in this process.” During the briefing, the officials called for a multi-billion-dollar investment into updating the U.S.’s “incredibly old” air traffic control systems. “What we have is an incredibly old air traffic control system,” Duffy said during the Friday night briefing. “Let’s not do a patchwork, a fix to a system that’s critical for every single family.” “I want $50 billion,” he said. Duffy in September asked Congress for $30 billion to fund new technology, control towers and airport improvements across the country. In a press briefing Saturday morning, Duffy said a telecommunications line switch by a contractor may have started Friday’s FAA ground stoppage. He noted that an older copper wire was being replaced by a new fiber cable by contractor L3Harris. More than 4,500 flights within, into or out of the U.S. were delayed as of Saturday afternoon with over 5,000 canceled, according to flight tracking website FlightAware. Total reported delays on Saturday crossed 15,000. https://th...-mike-johnson-faa-ground-stop/
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